For a multiplayer game I could see a distinction but not for a single player game. When I mod a game it's to make it more fun. It doesn't really matter whether that means adding some new feature the base game didn't have or removing something that IS in the game that I don't find to be fun. The whole point of a game is to have fun. That's what makes modding so great. I frequently mod my games to be harder. I also frequently mod my games to change something I don't like, which sometimes makes it easier.I was not referring to modding, but the sheer amount of requests for 'code to change this or that...'. I believe there is a distinct difference between modding and cheating. A mod adds something that isnt there in the first place or makes something behave different, if it already exists. Cheating tries to circumvent a mechanic to achieve a certain result.
Of course. I was done by day 180-200 ( I can not be more precise). Without this there are no way that I get the Mordecainst countercoup at Procoms, or the Dingy raiders I was talking about...This is what he's talking about taking so long. Have you done this yet? View attachment 4263938
It depends of how you gameplay style is. I would have no problem at all freeing all my slaves and having them as indetured servants. My household would stay very fine.So I've been curious with everyone talking about Aria's questline. It seems like it should be very involved and rewarding, with a bunch of unique slaves and books, but it states in her backstory that her goal in becoming chancellor is to end slavery and bring equality to Ikkaros. How does that not just end with the dissolution of your entire household?
Again - i dont care how one plays the game. My question has nothing to do with any individuals choice. I am not sure why you are so sensitive and feel attacked personally, but you do you. You make assumptions instead of reading obviously, since my postings here have always been critical of some stuff and my approach has always be to condemn playing it a certain way only. It is why I wrote that guide for noobs to begin with.Riiiiggghhht you don't care soooo much you questioned the quality of the game, I have to assume without playing otherwise you would have definitely said you didn't like A,B & C without referencing people looking for tweaks and cheats. I mean you don't care so much you said and I quote, "I believe there is a distinct difference between modding and cheating," because people who don't care about a topic make definitive statements like this.
You might be able to convince other people you don't care but anyone paying attention knows you were virtue signaling your position of how you are "oh so above all this cheating," as you clutch your pearls.
No you dont cheat since it is an option already provided by the game and the mechanics are build to react appropriately as with a different start option. I dont care about the fun part, as that is highly subjective which is why i made my basis for the question clear by defining it....
And what about starting options? Many of the options available when you create your character give you a massive advantage over people who don't pick that option. Does that mean I'm cheating if I pick any beneficial options? At some point the distinction just becomes meaningless. For a single player game the only wrong way to play is if you're not having fun. A pretty significant percentage of MOR players make character creation choices specifically designed to eliminate the grind for 1 or 2 particular stats that they don't find it enjoyable to grind out (one of the most common being intelligence).
Her effect on the Liberty stat of Ikaanos, the only stat affecting the institution of slavery, is tied to her corruption stat. If she has very low corruption, she can trigger Liberty raising events but very very rarely to be honest to matter. And if she has around 50+ corruption, she basically never triggers that.So I've been curious with everyone talking about Aria's questline. It seems like it should be very involved and rewarding, with a bunch of unique slaves and books, but it states in her backstory that her goal in becoming chancellor is to end slavery and bring equality to Ikkaros. How does that not just end with the dissolution of your entire household?
Yeah. The tendency to fail is definitely there when Aria's willpower is low, but that doesn't mean that the opposite tendency to win would have totally vanished. My statistical sampling is not large enough to make valid statements, but so far the four times I've had very weak willed Aria as chancellor point to a kind of balance. There ARE scandals (senate questions Aria's weak mind and her abilities once and again), but she still has her adversaries publicly exterminated, bans corrupted literature, allows new villages to be established (prosperity rises) starts new school for kids and so on....
Do not lower her Willpower like the angry guy suggested. A low willpower Aria tend to constantly fails her events.
So let me get this straight... You so don't care about people cheating you started the topic questioning the quality of the game. Made the distinction between mods and cheats. Insist twice now that you don't care! While saying and i quote, "..my approach has always be to condemn playing it a certain way..." Yeah people who don't care ALWAYS take a stance and condemn playing a game a "certain way." You actually have to care enough to waste time condemning people. but the kicker for me is the "I am not stepping away from a verbal fight..." 'i don't care but i will fight you over this topic and condemn people because you know I don't care.' utterly convincing!Again - i dont care how one plays the game. My question has nothing to do with any individuals choice. I am not sure why you are so sensitive and feel attacked personally, but you do you. You make assumptions instead of reading obviously, since my postings here have always been critical of some stuff and my approach has always be to condemn playing it a certain way only. It is why I wrote that guide for noobs to begin with.
I am not stepping away from a verbal fight if that is what you are after, but maybe choose a topic that you can win.
My job is not to change your 'believe' but to make my point about my own argument.So let me get this straight... You so don't care about people cheating you started the topic questioning the quality of the game. Made the distinction between mods and cheats. Insist twice now that you don't care! While saying and i quote, "..my approach has always be to condemn playing it a certain way..." Yeah people who don't care ALWAYS take a stance and condemn playing a game a "certain way." You actually have to care enough to waste time condemning people. but the kicker for me is the "I am not stepping away from a verbal fight..." 'i don't care but i will fight you over this topic and condemn people because you know I don't care.' utterly convincing!
Well after your master oratory skills have been employed I am beyond convinced you don't care. I mean you said so, it must be true. right?![]()
I have a friend who feels that doing anything the dev didn't want you to do, even if it is possible in an older version of the game and the dev just didn't notice it, is wrong.For a multiplayer game I could see a distinction but not for a single player game. When I mod a game it's to make it more fun.
Yeah in the case of MOR, Grim considers the "intended" start to be Rise from the Ashes with Ironman, Grimdark level, and Dying World active. I have played games starting from that point but the grind and the lack of useability of the unique characters for certain aspects of the game under those settings is not fun to me. I've also played games that add both pacifist and stim allergy to the above mix to make it even harder. So while I do pretty much always play with Grimdark and Dying World active, I don't play with Ironman enabled, and I usually don't do a Rise from the Ashes start either. I know plenty of people who find the low starting prosperity from Dying World to be annoying and thus don't use that option.I have a friend who feels that doing anything the dev didn't want you to do, even if it is possible in an older version of the game and the dev just didn't notice it, is wrong.
To me, it is always right to make your play experience be the way you want it to be. The dev makes the foundation. I am the one who has to experience playing.
"Cheating" is only a real thing if you are violating someone else. I am not violating anyone by having my fun.
Edit for example: All of my NPCs in MoR are cleared of crimes and free. Probably that isn't what most people would think is the normal way to play, but it is what I want. To make that reasonable, I modified the game to make it not a pain in the ass to do my way. I also have never sold anyone or had anyone be a prostitute or had anyone be a floor crawler. And I got rid of the starting male mercenaries ASAP and don't do business with criminals and assholes unless the game forces it. This is what is fun for me for MoR (I don't play all games this way). Other people can do what they want.
The closest you can come to this goal as of v0837 is if you complete the main quest (New World Order) and install low-willpower, high-affection (and optionally high-corruption) Aria as chancellor of the Third Republic.Any way i can become emperor of Ikaanos
BTW, sometimes the "secretive" trait can be a real pain in the ass. In my current run, both Trulls and Cassius are secretive. You can not extract any secret from this two beasts, at least not without red hot irons (and the game don´t allow it) and this have screwed my usual combat line up royally. I would have to wait till have access to Palace and buy a couple of whipping pills,
Till them, they are working at the workshops. Well, that will give the good old Doyle a second wind...
The magic pill don´t remove the secretive. And then I thought in using the Mindmancer, that lowers the willpower by 70, letting the task of extracting the secret as something manageable. But there are a problem, Mindmancer convert his brain in melted cheese, and I need to train them in medicine in order to use the combat stims.Yeah, that is the primary problem with Secretive. I have not encountered that problem since I have not started a new account but a lot of new accounts run into that particular problem. There are workarounds but it is not intuitive.
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so far we can only be kingmaker or queenmaker, hopefully dev can implemented it someday or maybe through modding.Any way i can become emperor of Ikaanos
Just let them sit until you capture someone who has lowish willpower and is secretive and interrogate that person instead. Once you have all the secrets, all secretive traits on anyone left will be removed.The magic pill don´t remove the secretive. And then I thought in using the Mindmancer, that lowers the willpower by 70, letting the task of extracting the secret as something manageable. But there are a problem, Mindmancer convert his brain in melted cheese, and I need to train them in medicine in order to use the combat stims.
There are the chance of using Mindmancer in the other, ordinary guys. But at 6000 of influence per dose, it would be a big delay in getting this couple in my combat team
why would there be a gallery?, is this guy stupid?This game does not aged at all.. no proper gallery neither enough scenes... just grinding is here. Sorry Dev. I have initially hope from you.
Yes. that´s being my strategy. I´m waiting for the 6th (doable) secret. But the problem it´s that while they wait, both are missing a lot of easy combats to boost his melee.Just let them sit until you capture someone who has lowish willpower and is secretive and interrogate that person instead. Once you have all the secrets, all secretive traits on anyone left will be removed.