anonym0u5

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There are updates. This is sufficient proof.
This would just immediately pointed back to my previous reply to you.

His updates timespan is quintuple that of an average independent dev, that isn't sufficient proof.

Do you even know why I gave you that example about work in a company? If this is his work ethic, he would've gotten his ass fired on day 2.

This is not "working", this is scamming.
 

Inspired8

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This would just immediately pointed back to my previous reply to you.

His updates timespan is quintuple that of an average independent dev, that isn't sufficient proof.

Do you even know why I gave you that example about work in a company? If this is his work ethic, he would've gotten his ass fired on day 2.

This is not "working", this is scamming.
The guy doesn't get it, this year he released only 1 update, which can only be described as a blunder and nothing more than another part of the last update from the last year. Here were are, almost 8 months of 2022 have passed, and we have yet to see a decent update from a full-time dev, who, apparently, is the unluckiest person on the planet. The leniency people give Bon is astounding to me, especially the last couple of years, the guy doesn't have a "tight" schedule for a year now since it was too "stressful" for him yet nothing has changed, I wish Patreon would just force full-time devs to release new content every 3 months or so, by simply freezing money in place and giving it to them after they release a new update/content, excluding force major situations, which don't allow the dev to work on the project/game, that can be proven with something more than dev's words, like in the case of Bon. Bon has only ever said that something had happened to him but I wonder, has he ever proven a single far-fetched thing? Because I've ever only seen him saying it via posts or when someone shared his messages from discord here since when all you hear from this guy is that something always happens to him and "prevents" him from releasing new updates, you'll start questioning his words. Part of what Bon told was true but most stuff was made up to give himself an excuse to take long breaks consistently without losing much of his monthly income IMO.
 

PaulGaul

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I wish Patreon would just force full-time devs to release new content every 3 months or so, by simply freezing money in place and giving it to them after they release a new update/content, excluding force major situations, which don't allow the dev to work on the project/game, that can be proven with something more than dev's words, like in the case of Bon.
I completely agree here that BoN constant explanations are a joke and as someone pointed above it seems that he is just completely burned out and hate working on that game.

However this doesn't change a fact that this is a Patreon. No one forces you to throw money at contect creator. Every patreon does it because he/she likes creator works. You don't like it anymore? Freeze your support. Forcing creators to provide anything in any time frame has no sense here. You are not buying any service/product, you support creator you like with no promises what you will get in return.
 
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Inspired8

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I completely agree here that BoN constant explanations are a joke and as someone pointed above it seems that he is just completely burned out and hate working on that game.

However this doesn't change a fact that this is a Patreon. No one forces you to throw money at contect creator. Every patreon does it because he/she likes creator works. You don't like it anymore? Freeze your support. Forcing creators to provide anything in any time frame has no sense here. You are not buying any service/product, you support creator you like with no promises what you will get in return.
That's the thing, I refuse to support him financially on Patreon, even though I can do that easily, who would ever want to waste 30+$ down the drain in hopes of seeing a single update, which may or may not even be decent/released at all, after 6+ months when you can buy a AAA game or several AAA games with discounts? Selling points of Bon were always art/characters and the amount of content all of which negated/mitigated the number of bugs the game had/has and he also used to release updates every 1-2 months before the revamp, nowadays though, all that's left is the art and the amount of content, updates are half-assed, at best, and have been released once every 3 months until this year, the number of bugs only increases with each new update and issues just keep piling on without ever being addressed by Bon himself and constant "excuses"/far-fetched explanations for delays etc only make things worse. Nobody is forcing anyone, it's just astounding, that the guy can make 4+$ grand a month for doing nothing when he's a full-time dev whose livelihood is fully funded by Patreon, if it was a side hustle/passion project then yeah nobody would care if it took him even a year to release an update when the guy has a job. Bon ditched the "tight" schedule thing a year ago, yet the delays are still here when he himself puts out the timeframe which only shows that he wants to milk the project as much as possible, especially when you notice the trend of his to either delay the update till the end of the month or him choosing the release date to be at the end of the month and then splitting the update into 2 parts. The bottom line is that his "excuses/explanations" for delays can't be taken seriously nowadays and he's just milking the project as much as possible before he either somehow finishes it, ditches it, or takes an indefinite hiatus from it.
 

PervBunny jr.

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if any one notice
every time dev needs extra time........
before release


as far i remember release date last lucy update was extended and we got half content

i hope this date will be as same as previous
 

ayoze624

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if any one notice
every time dev needs extra time........
before release


as far i remember release date last lucy update was extended and we got half content

i hope this date will be as same as previous
I think is gonna be even bigger
 

Rancid Dragon Productions

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Symphony of the Night

Hey Wizard, got another weird find for you to take a look at. Let me know if you need my build or anything ... might just be me again. lol

I loaded the image sets, both Compressed and Full Pictures and loaded them into the www folder from your last fix post. I'm still seeing a loading error at the hotel manager quest looking for images CVCV060.png through 068.png. None of them load and they stick you in the game. I looked at the files and they are name CVCV060 without the .png ending. So I tried to change that and add it, still no dice. I saved at went past it without doing the quest, but figured I'd add it for you to look at if you want to. I also saw this during Mike's party with Sasha, but I skipped it as well without adding anything at that time.

Thanks, keep up the good work!
 

PaulGaul

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Nobody is forcing anyone, it's just astounding, that the guy can make 4+$ grand a month for doing nothing when he's a full-time dev whose livelihood is fully funded by Patreon, if it was a side hustle/passion project then yeah nobody would care if it took him even a year to release an update when the guy has a job. Bon ditched the "tight" schedule thing a year ago, yet the delays are still here when he himself puts out the timeframe which only shows that he wants to milk the project as much as possible, especially when you notice the trend of his to either delay the update till the end of the month or him choosing the release date to be at the end of the month and then splitting the update into 2 parts. The bottom line is that his "excuses/explanations" for delays can't be taken seriously nowadays and he's just milking the project as much as possible before he either somehow finishes it, ditches it, or takes an indefinite hiatus from it.
You can call it milking, you can call it support of content creator of people that are willing to do so.
Some girls make 100x money BoN makes by just showing their assets on onlyfans. It is even easier than what BoN does.
That's the world we live in. Bitching about that will not change anything. Wasting time on complaining about thing you have no control over is pointless.
 

Inspired8

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You can call it milking, you can call it support of content creator of people that are willing to do so.
Some girls make 100x money BoN makes by just showing their assets on onlyfans. It is even easier than what BoN does.
That's the world we live in. Bitching about that will not change anything. Wasting time on complaining about thing you have no control over is pointless.
True, but those girls release actual content consistently, usually, which can't be said about Bon. Bon can make his "work" easier as well and more profitable if he actually wanted to or was willing to listen to constructive criticism. It's blatant milking at this point, his supporters don't see it that way or just don't care at this point, as long as he releases some content every once in a while. If Bon was at least honest about most things instead of playing a "victim", most girls on Onlyfans are honest about that stuff tho, though they know it's immoral, they know they earn money using their bodies, at least they're not denying the fact that they're "sluts/whores" whatever word you want to use to describe them. Bon is creating the illusion of him putting a lot of effort into the project, which he hasn't done for a year at least at this point, the most disturbing thing is that people are actually buying that and don't question him at all, instead they ignore the pile of issues that keeps increasing and come here for help when they encounter them since Bon rarely does something about it, nowadays. If he owned his mistakes instead of shifting the blame to "circumstances etc", people wouldn't care as much. "Expect the unexpected" would be the best way to describe Bon's latest actions/trends.
 

Skg 2108

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Somehow you did not meet Warren at Rachel house or it didnt trigger outside. So you missed one of the requirements. Go to class and after school Warren would be outside. Your save is fixed, I hoped :whistle::censored:

For others with similar problem like Saint Creek if it is the exact same problem. Use a save editor and change switch 187 to ON
Somehow you did not meet Warren at Rachel house or it didnt trigger outside. So you missed one of the requirements. Go to class and after school Warren would be outside. Your save is fixed, I hoped :whistle::censored:

For others with similar problem like Saint Creek if it is the exact same problem. Use a save editor and change switch 187 to ON
warren is not showing up outside school after completing school quest (part 1) and main quest (house 1)
 

Nepheus

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If I had to guess why BoN is so slow nowadays, I would say:
First, there is no competition. This dude is the only one using these models on tk17 animated with this amount of content. The demand is too high and the supply is literally only him. He has no incentive to keep working besides his work ethics (which are questionable recently).

Second, he keeps doing everything alone even after all this time. On the beginning of the development he was dropping so many updates so quickly, it was one of the best """regularly""" updated games at the time, thats why the old version was stacked with content and a lot of the revamp just uses them. He clearly has slowed down now, but still doesnt want help.

Look at eroniverse with confined with goddesses, this guy was doing hand drawn unique artstyle with monthly updates consistently, and guess what, he understood that it would be too demanding. He was transparent, changed to another artstyle which he enjoyed AND was easier to pump out content and STILL, this week, he announced he might starting delegating the work so he doesnt have to do everything alone. That is absolutely amazing, he knows his limits and its going to fuck up his update schedule if he doesnt get help, he made the right choice.

Why cant beggar do this? No clue. If only we had a debugger before release, the updates already would be a lot more stable on release. A writer to help him, something! He just has no real incentive to deliver great content, why work hard if you dont have to? The paycheck is coming anyways. That just comes down to each developer morals again.

Wow... I cant believe I became a wall of text andy for this game... Guess I just really like it.
 

Shardoom

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I know you think you're right and I have no intention of getting into a drawn out debate, but, there is one thing I will say...
Your super negative attitude is precisely the reason why less and less of the actual game devs frequent this site.
 

Symphony of the Night

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Hey Wizard, got another weird find for you to take a look at. Let me know if you need my build or anything ... might just be me again. lol

I loaded the image sets, both Compressed and Full Pictures and loaded them into the www folder from your last fix post. I'm still seeing a loading error at the hotel manager quest looking for images CVCV060.png through 068.png. None of them load and they stick you in the game. I looked at the files and they are name CVCV060 without the .png ending. So I tried to change that and add it, still no dice. I saved at went past it without doing the quest, but figured I'd add it for you to look at if you want to. I also saw this during Mike's party with Sasha, but I skipped it as well without adding anything at that time.

Thanks, keep up the good work!
Wizard LMAO :ROFLMAO:. I'm darkness reincarnated :devilish:

But seriously, it sounds like you using the wrong missing image set or if I get that right, you're using them together. The missing images has two sets. One for the compress version and one for the full version. You only have to use one image set depending on which game version you using i.e. Full version or Compress version. Not both. Check to make sure you are using the correct set or installing them correct. They are suppose to be copied into the game folder where "Game.exe" and the "www" are located. Not into the www folder. If you still getting issue then let me know and send me a save, so I can check if I getting the missing image problem.

warren is not showing up outside school after completing school quest (part 1) and main quest (house 1)
Nothing is wrong with your save bro. Stop following the guide and use BOF. You are not even at the part as yet to meet warren, one or two quest away in fact. Your book of faces said to go to school, then why do you not go to school, why do you want to meet Warren?. Like Warren and you have something going on secretly :ROFLMAO:. Just kidding bro. Just stop following the guide and use BOF and you will be good to go (y)


If I had to guess why BoN is so slow nowadays, I would say:
First, there is no competition. This dude is the only one using these models on tk17 animated with this amount of content. The demand is too high and the supply is literally only him. He has no incentive to keep working besides his work ethics (which are questionable recently).

Second, he keeps doing everything alone even after all this time. On the beginning of the development he was dropping so many updates so quickly, it was one of the best """regularly""" updated games at the time, thats why the old version was stacked with content and a lot of the revamp just uses them. He clearly has slowed down now, but still doesnt want help.

Look at eroniverse with confined with goddesses, this guy was doing hand drawn unique artstyle with monthly updates consistently, and guess what, he understood that it would be too demanding. He was transparent, changed to another artstyle which he enjoyed AND was easier to pump out content and STILL, this week, he announced he might starting delegating the work so he doesnt have to do everything alone. That is absolutely amazing, he knows his limits and its going to fuck up his update schedule if he doesnt get help, he made the right choice.

Why cant beggar do this? No clue. If only we had a debugger before release, the updates already would be a lot more stable on release. A writer to help him, something! He just has no real incentive to deliver great content, why work hard if you dont have to? The paycheck is coming anyways. That just comes down to each developer morals again.

Wow... I cant believe I became a wall of text andy for this game... Guess I just really like it.
Totally agree. Just not much games with some huge breasteses, thick thighs and big azz aka true voluptuousness to my liking. So I'm stuck with this game.
But it have other great games with better writing than this, it just the overused Daz3D model is the problem to me. Dammit, I so wish I had time away from college to release a game without Daz models and get some "mindless" followers :devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish:...evil laughs.....

bmvn,nbv,.gif
 
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Inspired8

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I know you think you're right and I have no intention of getting into a drawn out debate, but, there is one thing I will say...
Your super negative attitude is precisely the reason why less and less of the actual game devs frequent this site.
If there weren't major issues with the game/his attitude, why I would ever criticize him? I provide constructive criticism, if he wasn't treating everything as "hate" and was willing to listen, he could've improved/optimized a lot of things after 6 years. The truth hurts but how else is he supposed to grow/change something if he only wants to hear the good things while ignoring the ever-increasing pile of bad ones, that, at this point, can't be ignored any longer. 8 months into this year and he hasn't released a decent update yet besides that blunder from February if this was an occasional or a one-time thing, nobody would criticize him but it's been going on for at least a year. If he can't continue to work on the project for whatever reason, he should just drop it and stop giving people more "excuses" on why the update is delayed etc. I just can't take his "reasons/excuses" seriously when he's a full-time dev making over 4 grand a month and instead of being transparent or actually hiring someone for the project he just keeps shifting the blame onto everything but himself.
P.S: The game has more downsides atm than upsides, so how can I be positive about it when the dev doesn't care about the game and most bugs get fixed by people from this thread nowadays?
 

chunkas

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I know you think you're right and I have no intention of getting into a drawn out debate, but, there is one thing I will say...
Your super negative attitude is precisely the reason why less and less of the actual game devs frequent this site.
Ahhhh, ahhhh, ahhhh ... All these cute dev's are so sensitive. Maybe the creators of this site should start giving these gentle people cookies and warm milk for unbearable suffering? That's life, bro: if you don't take constructive criticism well, you'd better not meet guys like Moronel88 on a narrow path.
 
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TheJOy

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Dec 16, 2017
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If I had to guess why BoN is so slow nowadays, I would say:
First, there is no competition. This dude is the only one using these models on tk17 animated with this amount of content. The demand is too high and the supply is literally only him. He has no incentive to keep working besides his work ethics (which are questionable recently).

Second, he keeps doing everything alone even after all this time. On the beginning of the development he was dropping so many updates so quickly, it was one of the best """regularly""" updated games at the time, thats why the old version was stacked with content and a lot of the revamp just uses them. He clearly has slowed down now, but still doesnt want help.

Look at eroniverse with confined with goddesses, this guy was doing hand drawn unique artstyle with monthly updates consistently, and guess what, he understood that it would be too demanding. He was transparent, changed to another artstyle which he enjoyed AND was easier to pump out content and STILL, this week, he announced he might starting delegating the work so he doesnt have to do everything alone. That is absolutely amazing, he knows his limits and its going to fuck up his update schedule if he doesnt get help, he made the right choice.

Why cant beggar do this? No clue. If only we had a debugger before release, the updates already would be a lot more stable on release. A writer to help him, something! He just has no real incentive to deliver great content, why work hard if you dont have to? The paycheck is coming anyways. That just comes down to each developer morals again.

Wow... I cant believe I became a wall of text andy for this game... Guess I just really like it.
Here is only one reason why he so slow:

A bunch of idiots are already giving him money, what's the point of investing in work every month if you can do it once every six months and get the same amount?
Stop sending him money and you see how fast he can working.
 
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