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[skyblueaster]

Not gonna lie, tried your game, was excited when I saw the size of the game folder. A whooping 2.6GB size folder, then I tried to play a little and okay it looks interesting, the idea and setup could be good, also sounds are beautiful done.
- But then something happened, well actually, nothing happened, there was no content!?, like besides a beautiful made main character bust, there was actually no other content!? - Then I looked at the files, and the image folder is only 241mb, and contains only one CG, with some variants, and actually nothing lewd at all, no nude girls, nothing! Very sad face!
- The 2.6GB size of the game was because of voice acting and sound effects, damn!
- Once again I was let down, just like so many other games out there when they release their first version. damn damn damn!
However, even if I am a bit hard on my critique here, gonna be interesting to see when the game actually is gonna have some more content

Thanks for playing! Happy to hear your feedback. ❤

I want to clarify it’s a slow-burn netorare, so nothing should realistically happen in the first chapter. :3
I’m a little sad you skipped the plot and went to the image folder, when many of my readers believe the plot to be the selling point. *cries*

As for the lack of content or images, the version you played was just a demo! So there will not be any H-content, similar to many trials on DLsite. ❤

The paid version, available on my Patreon for $5, contains two fully voice-acted H-scenes which clock at 20-30 minutes depending on reading speed. And of course, lots and lots of story—75k words total and another 15k in two weeks!

I will agree that this will not be a game with tons of CGs, as it costs me ~$1000 per scene, but each scene is made with much love from the artist and voice actress. The upcoming fellatio scene, for example, will contain 5 image variations where the heroine is forced to lick the UB’s shaft before progressing to succ deeply. ❤

But yeah, my game is reading-intensive just like Curse of Kubel, which is another plot-heavy game with slow NTR buildup. I actually inserted two early H-scenes in the paid version (Ch. 1 and Ch. 3) to avoid the criticisms of "no early H-scene," so it’s only the demo that doesn’t have them. (If it were me, I’d stick them in Ch. 5 lmao, but some peeps want their early H, so I shall deliver.)

Here are the two voiced H-scenes currently playable (Chs. 1-3):


And here is an upcoming one (Ch. 5):

 

[Eet_Fuk]

Thanks for playing! Happy to hear your feedback. ❤

I want to clarify it’s a slow-burn netorare, so nothing should realistically happen in the first chapter. :3
I’m a little sad you skipped the plot and went to the image folder, when many of my readers believe the plot to be the selling point. *cries*

As for the lack of content or images, the version you played was just a demo! So there will not be any H-content, similar to many trials on DLsite. ❤

The paid version, available on my Patreon for $5, contains two fully voice-acted H-scenes which clock at 20-30 minutes depending on reading speed. And of course, lots and lots of story—75k words total and another 15k in two weeks!

I will agree that this will not be a game with tons of CGs, as it costs me ~$1000 per scene, but each scene is made with much love from the artist and voice actress. The upcoming fellatio scene, for example, will contain 5 image variations where the heroine is forced to lick the UB’s shaft before progressing to succ deeply. ❤

But yeah, my game is reading-intensive just like Curse of Kubel, which is another plot-heavy game with slow NTR buildup. I actually inserted two early H-scenes in the paid version (Ch. 1 and Ch. 3) to avoid the criticisms of "no early H-scene," so it’s only the demo that doesn’t have them. (If it were me, I’d stick them in Ch. 5 lmao, but some peeps want their early H, so I shall deliver.)

Here are the two voiced H-scenes currently playable (Chs. 1-3):
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And here is an upcoming one (Ch. 5):
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Your girl looks really pretty, but it seems that your game leans to the blackmail side. Which is no no for me

 

[skyblueaster]

Your girl looks really pretty, but it seems that your game leans to the blackmail side. Which is no no for me

UB leans blackmail.
HB is closer to seduction.

But yes, the game is a more traditional, type B netorare (blackmail, intrigue, seduction) than type A (cheating willingly).

 

[Zellemate]

Your girl looks really pretty, but it seems that your game leans to the blackmail side. Which is no no for me

Thanks for the reply back!
- Don't get me wrong, I finished the demo from start to finish, with some minor dialogue skipping that is, thats why I was also disappointed since I did see many scenes. But again, if you say there is another version which actually have a bit more to offer in terms of scenes, well that could make up for it obviously!
- I was under the impression compared to how long the game have been out, around ~8 months if I look at the date on F95, that I hoped there would be a leaked version with more content then just the demo, however that seems to be my own fault obviously jumping to conclusions!

When you are a bit further in development, I would suggest to include a scene or two in the demo, because its often how people judge a project/game

Art looks amazing btw.
The whole 20-30min for 1-2 scenes will have to find out later how that feels, it sounds to much, and don't get me wrong I LOVE long scenes, so yeah thats gonna be interested to find check out for sure.

Anyway keep up the good work, can never get to many NTR games

 

[skyblueaster]

Thanks for the reply back!
- Don't get me wrong, I finished the demo from start to finish, with some minor dialogue skipping that is, thats why I was also disappointed since I did see many scenes. But again, if you say there is another version which actually have a bit more to offer in terms of scenes, well that could make up for it obviously!
- I was under the impression compared to how long the game have been out, around ~8 months if I look at the date on F95, that I hoped there would be a leaked version with more content then just the demo, however that seems to be my own fault obviously jumping to conclusions!

When you are a bit further in development, I would suggest to include a scene or two in the demo, because its often how people judge a project/game

Art looks amazing btw.
The whole 20-30min for 1-2 scenes will have to find out later how that feels, it sounds to much, and don't get me wrong I LOVE long scenes, so yeah thats gonna be interested to find check out for sure.

Anyway keep up the good work, can never get to many NTR games

To be honest, I consider the writing the main content, not the H-scenes! But I understand people are seeking different things in games.

The H-scenes are there to advance the plot and add flavor. As someone who likes NVL-style VNs, I’m perfectly fine with just text on screen, so even sprites and voice acting are huge bonuses for me. I won’t make readers suffer through that though, I understand how much value H-scenes add, haha.

That being said, I don't advertise the lewd at all, the itchio page is ironically SFW (and I've made it more SFW over time). The game is actually insanely NSFW (in terms of writing and the H-illustrations), but I wanted to attract the reading-heavy types, and not those seeking a fast H-thrill.

I don’t want people to come just for the H-scenes because that’s bad value, I agree. It’s a slow-burn NTR where the “payoff” comes near the middle-end. The two H-scenes that come early are actually compromies by me xD .

The leaked version, v0.33, actually has three chapters compared to one for the demo, but I won’t promote piracy for obvious reasons xD. I don’t link pirate links to other developer games either, but the DLsite link.

But enough of me! Do you have a demo for Witches and Wizards? I like Harry Potter, so super interested in reading the NTR lol. (I checked the website, but it’s not available yet, but was really curious lol.)

 

[crnisl]

I’m perfectly fine with just text on screen, so even sprites and voice acting are huge bonuses for me. I won’t make readers suffer through that though, I understand how much value H-scenes add, haha.

I still would encourage you not to forget about H "half-scenes," or whatever you wanna call ’em.

I’m talking basic VN dialogue where characters are on-screen, but quick grabs, butt smacks, finger put in mouth to suck, or other short-ish harassment vibes pop off.

Doesn’t even need fancy artwork - like, hell, even a comic panel or two with a quick grope or ass slap gets the point across.

Not every H moment gotta be a 30-minute saga with full-blown CGs, right?

 

[Kulman]

I still would encourage you not to forget about H "half-scenes," or whatever you wanna call ’em.

I’m talking basic VN dialogue where characters are on-screen, but quick grabs, butt smacks, finger put in mouth to suck, or other short-ish harassment vibes pop off.

Doesn’t even need fancy artwork - like, hell, even a comic panel or two with a quick grope or ass slap gets the point across.

Not every H moment gotta be a 30-minute saga with full-blown CGs, right?

Preach, I love these little snippets. Can be via cut-ins etc, it adds so damn much. Without stuff like that the games can feel really disconnected. Like you get 2 modes, talking mode and then just 30 minute porn scene modes, can end up with a lot of disconnect.

Its also pretty cheap to do imo. Doesnt matter that you are reusing art, have an art for a butt grope, boob grab, hand on dick etc and you are free to use it the whole game.

 

[skyblueaster]

I still would encourage you not to forget about H "half-scenes," or whatever you wanna call ’em.

I’m talking basic VN dialogue where characters are on-screen, but quick grabs, butt smacks, finger put in mouth to suck, or other short-ish harassment vibes pop off.

Doesn’t even need fancy artwork - like, hell, even a comic panel or two with a quick grope or ass slap gets the point across.

Not every H moment gotta be a 30-minute saga with full-blown CGs, right?

There's actually quite a bit of that depicted textually and through audio (the thugs will often cop a feel, causing Akari to remark).

But it is a really neat pictorial suggestion. I suppose could do it RPG Maker style, where every harassment has a cut-in (i.e., hand groping the butt) though that would give the game a different, "arcadey vibe."

(I notice JP VNs rarely do this, but I’m tempted to add it in if most consider it an improvement.)

Anyway, I could definitely discuss that with the readers and artists! Don't have the extra funds for it now, but would be worth experimenting with later to see if it sticks.

Preach, I love these little snippets. Can be via cut-ins etc, it adds so damn much. Without stuff like that the games can feel really disconnected. Like you get 2 modes, talking mode and then just 30 minute porn scene modes, can end up with a lot of disconnect.

Its also pretty cheap to do imo. Doesnt matter that you are reusing art, have an art for a butt grope, boob grab, hand on dick etc and you are free to use it the whole game.

I want the heroine’s face in it at the very least. So hot seeing the heroine squirm, lmao.
Back to the writing board and thinking of every groping situation now, haha.

 

[Kulman]

There's actually quite a bit of that depicted textually and through audio (the thugs will often cop a feel, causing Akari to remark).

But it is a really neat pictorial suggestion. I suppose could do it RPG Maker style, where every harassment has a cut-in (i.e., hand groping the butt) though that would give the game a different, "arcadey vibe."

(I notice JP VNs rarely do this, but I’m tempted to add it in if most consider it an improvement.)

Anyway, I could definitely discuss that with the readers and artists! Don't have the extra funds for it now, but would be worth experimenting with later to see if it sticks.



I want the heroine’s face in it at the very least. So hot seeing the heroine squirm, lmao.
Back to the writing board and thinking of every groping situation now, haha.

Sometimes less is more. By showing just these parts, you leave other stuff to imagination. These cut-ins dont usually even show whole face when the face is the focus, just showing mouth (tongue out perhaps), while hiding the eyes, can tell a whole damn story. But you need a good artist to nail the expression.

And again, cheaper. You mentioned some pretty high costs. Not everything needs to have 100% detailed expensive art. Good writing + cut-ins and snippets can be just as good as a whole CG scene. At least in my opinion.

 

[skyblueaster]

Sometimes less is more. By showing just these parts, you leave other stuff to imagination. These cut-ins dont usually even show whole face when the face is the focus, just showing mouth (tongue out perhaps), while hiding the eyes, can tell a whole damn story. But you need a good artist to nail the expression.

And again, cheaper. You mentioned some pretty high costs. Not everything needs to have 100% detailed expensive art. Good writing + cut-ins and snippets can be just as good as a whole CG scene. At least in my opinion.

Hmm, hmm more food for thought. I don’t like obscuring the eyes like that, but it does add a sense of intrigue.
I’ve proposed the cut-in suggestion on my Discord, will see if they like it! xD

Maybe I can give it a trial run in Chapter 5.

 

[crnisl]

Hmm, hmm more food for thought. I don’t like obscuring the eyes like that, but it does add a sense of intrigue.
I’ve proposed the cut-in suggestion on my Discord, will see if they like it! xD

I kinda enjoyed all these cut ins and little gropes in The Scarlet Demonslayer, banned there. It's not an ntr game. But the point is that I agree about the eyes.

Though, no face still worked well for "accentuated poses".

 

[Zellemate]

To be honest, I consider the writing the main content, not the H-scenes! But I understand people are seeking different things in games.

The H-scenes are there to advance the plot and add flavor. As someone who likes NVL-style VNs, I’m perfectly fine with just text on screen, so even sprites and voice acting are huge bonuses for me. I won’t make readers suffer through that though, I understand how much value H-scenes add, haha.

That being said, I don't advertise the lewd at all, the itchio page is ironically SFW (and I've made it more SFW over time). The game is actually insanely NSFW (in terms of writing and the H-illustrations), but I wanted to attract the reading-heavy types, and not those seeking a fast H-thrill.

I don’t want people to come just for the H-scenes because that’s bad value, I agree. It’s a slow-burn NTR where the “payoff” comes near the middle-end. The two H-scenes that come early are actually compromies by me xD .

The leaked version, v0.33, actually has three chapters compared to one for the demo, but I won’t promote piracy for obvious reasons xD. I don’t link pirate links to other developer games either, but the DLsite link.

But enough of me! Do you have a demo for Witches and Wizards? I like Harry Potter, so super interested in reading the NTR lol. (I checked the website, but it’s not available yet, but was really curious lol.)

Completely respect the idea of slowburn and tons of dialogue honestly, gonna be interesting to follow your project as it evolves.
- And here I am, criticizing your lovely game, where I have none yet! Ironic right!?
I have opened up the doors for my project really early in development to try to build up some interest for NTR lovers....but sadly no we dont have a demo yet. And honestly its gonna be a while, I hope end of 2025 we might have something to show but who knows.
- Instead I try to tease artwork and our characters, and give updates as often as I can.. You can find teasers on our discord or webpage in my signature if you want to have a look

 

[critic specialized in NTR]

I kinda enjoyed all these cut ins and little gropes in The Scarlet Demonslayer, banned there. It's not an ntr game. But the point is that I agree about the eyes.

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Though, no face still worked well for "accentuated poses".

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Is this game good? Is it worth the weather? By the way, why was you banned from here?

 

[CodeNameNevada]

Is this game good? Is it worth the weather? By the way, why was you banned from here?

Banned for 1 shota mini-route. Game is your standard curse corruption. I liked the beginning, the rest was okayish

 

[ktez]

Is this game good? Is it worth the weather? By the way, why was you banned from here?

If you get excited by this expression: -_- go for it

 

[Komdot]

Banned for 1 shota mini-route. Game is your standard curse corruption. I liked the beginning, the rest was okayish

I'll never accept this ban, because there are worse shotas around here and they let it go.

 

[monsterartisan]

I'll never accept this ban, because there are worse shotas around here and they let it go.

Is there a way to make an appeal for this? I'm actually interested on taking a look on this game while I wait for updates on their newest game in development.

 

[skyblueaster]

Is this game good? Is it worth the weather? By the way, why was you banned from here?

Absolutely zero NTR in

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, except for vanilla nerds who see a girl being sexed by any bastard as "NTR."

There are no romantic relationships whatsoever. Bastards lust after her, and the FMC agrees to have sex with them because of a plot device that increases her power each time she has H.

It’s actually awful if you’re into corruption/NTR, because absolutely nothing happens. The girl is -_- from start to finish.
Honestly, the art carries that game, it’s really that good. Even though there's no NTR in that game, I still played the shit out of it lmfao.

TL;DR: Must-buy if you want to see cool girls getting sexed. Skip if you want to see her corrupted.

 

[DOUGLAX]

I'll never accept this ban, because there are worse shotas around here and they let it go.

There are several games that are against the rules but they are still on this site and a selective selection and I never understand when it is possible or not.

 

[skyblueaster]

I wish his games were actually NTR. I really, really do.
I would coom with greater volume than the world’s five oceans combined.

Alas, I will have to settle for the Mississippi River instead.