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EK is finally about to give up even trying, she just wants to be done, she wants to quit this shit and do something else.
Yeah, maybe she or he wants to do something different and not focus on a dating Sim? Or a different project? I get that vibe but this is still like the top 3 games on this site so I'm hoping she finishes it with as much quality as the previous chapters.
 

Darreau91

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EK is finally about to give up even trying, she just wants to be done, she wants to quit this shit and do something else.
Sick with 2 broken ribs for a good chunk of 2025. Still plowing through that doesnt indicate she wants the game to be over and finished. Though, she probably should of taken a hiatus since the quality has suffered a bit.
 

bonerland

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Yeah. Broken PC stuff comes back.

I would applaud if devs started to invent new excuses exhibiting more dedication towards ongoing project. Just imagine Eva posting something like that:

"As I researched all that gloryhole stuff for Holly scenes in the field, I accidentally contracted an terrible STD. Next update will be postponed."

OK, that would be so wholesome and sacrifice for sake of quality of art and worldbuilding would be so much more meaningful for fanbase! ;)
Please point to where EK mentioned anything about "computer problems".
 
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notstaged

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It takes enough mental energy minmaxing my cuck score in real life.
And there's no guide for that.

Something about chapter 13 kinda irks me. Can't put my finger on it but something just feels different from all the previous chapters.
The main arc between the playable characters was mostly resolved in the previous episode. It's a hangover/transitional chapter where most of the cast kind of mulls around in a fugue state, wondering what is left for them to do. Like a bridge onto which the barrage of remaining scenes are superimposed.
 

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The main arc between the playable characters was mostly resolved in the previous episode. It's a hangover/transitional chapter where most of the cast kind of mulls around in a fugue state, wondering what is left for them to do. Like a bridge onto which the barrage of remaining scenes are superimposed.
Yup, it's the aftermath of all the choices you made previously, which is coming in full circle. The other main plots are just on the horizon.
 
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The main arc between the playable characters was mostly resolved in the previous episode. It's a hangover/transitional chapter where most of the cast kind of mulls around in a fugue state, wondering what is left for them to do. Like a bridge onto which the barrage of remaining scenes are superimposed.
Yeah... I think the themes of the game played out in the run-up to the Beach house. There was an obvious conclusion to Lena's arc there - Is she going to have a boyfriend and do the whole waitress/singer thing or is she going to become a party girl who wants nothing more than to be paid to go to Dubai and have sex with old men? THAT was a conclusion for Lena.

Problem is that there isn't a similar arc for Ian... Ian has improved his life but he hasn't really had to make any serious decisions. He's gotten into working out, he got a promotion at work, he got a novel that might get published, but beyond that the only real choice before him is whether he gets serious about one girl or follows Jeremy in being a ho.

I think Eva's aware that she lost the thread (as it were) somewhere along the line and neither endings feel all that satisfying so we're on the 'mopping up the arcs on the various LIs and second-string NPCs' phase. I think the project got away from her quite early on and she's been battling with it for a while. Too many variables. Too many options. All of them are fun and so none of them feels particularly satisfying and dramatic.
 

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I think Eva's aware that she lost the thread (as it were) somewhere along the line and neither endings feel all that satisfying so we're on the 'mopping up the arcs on the various LIs and second-string NPCs' phase. I think the project got away from her quite early on and she's been battling with it for a while. Too many variables. Too many options. All of them are fun and so none of them feels particularly satisfying and dramatic.
Stories are full of peaks and valleys as there are multiple rising actions, climaxes, and resolutions throughout; rarely is it ever one unless it's a short story. The beach house has been a long anticipated event, many storylines either got resolved or had a major breakthrough, which I'll go over later. It makes perfect sense that the chapter after the beach house is going to feel "off" because it's going to be a transitional chapter into the next series of plot threads. That feeling will only be amplified because we're waiting for it to be written instead of immediately moving on. Once the game is complete I doubt anyone will be saying this chapter doesn't fit. I believe that is what notstaged was getting at.

Yeah... I think the themes of the game played out in the run-up to the Beach house. There was an obvious conclusion to Lena's arc there - Is she going to have a boyfriend and do the whole waitress/singer thing or is she going to become a party girl who wants nothing more than to be paid to go to Dubai and have sex with old men? THAT was a conclusion for Lena.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Lena's "Party Girl" lifestyle hasn't even started yet, that's what Billy's event should be exploring. Her singing career is waiting on the "battle of the bands" event that was only just introduced in chapter 11. What Lena did with Seymour was lock in her Posh / luxurious lifestyle and potentially also her modeling career. Modeling yet to be determined as others can still take photos even without Seymour, and Wildcats also assumedly exists outside of Seymour's influence. None of Lena's story arcs really came to a close at the beach house, or even after, outside of locking in her romance with Ian or the throuple. Lena has a lot of story to go, I'd argue she actually has more than Ian at the moment to resolve.

Problem is that there isn't a similar arc for Ian... Ian has improved his life but he hasn't really had to make any serious decisions. He's gotten into working out, he got a promotion at work, he got a novel that might get published, but beyond that the only real choice before him is whether he gets serious about one girl or follows Jeremy in being a ho.
And, for the record, Ian has had plenty of resolutions to his story beats at the beach house too. If you need examples; Ian's relationship with Emma and how that effects Perry, Ian's relationship with Cindy and how that effects Wade, the Throuple, Ian can resolve to continue his playboy lifestyle or lock in on one woman. We just haven't seen those results yet, as we were covering Lena's PoV to start this chapter and haven't had an Ian PoV. We're still going to be waiting on Ian's book contest, hopefully next chapter, another round of the MMA tournament, what a fuckboy Ian will look like now that he's commited, and his living situation. Even if Ian has a good relationship with Perry he thinks to himself about moving out, and with a dedicated girlfriend, and his recent promotion, he has a good chance of moving out.
 

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The Problem isn't/wasn't Eva doing two MCs, though that didn't help.

It was the bloated cast of characters that needed pruning. Lena has tons of lame fuck boys she can date/cuck Ian with, why are there so many? No need for Robert to exist; Jeremy already does what the black bouncer does...whatever.

Lean's LIs outside of Ian: Stan, Simon, Louise OR Ivy, Jeremy, and INSERT FUCK BOY HERE for Lena

Ian LIs outside of Lena should be: Holly, Cindy, Minerva, and Louise or Ivy

Tons of non characters who sucked up space and routes
 

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The Problem isn't/wasn't Eva doing two MCs, though that didn't help.

It was the bloated cast of characters that needed pruning. Lena has tons of lame fuck boys she can date/cuck Ian with, why are there so many? No need for Robert to exist; Jeremy already does what the black bouncer does...whatever.

Lean's LIs outside of Ian: Stan, Simon, Louise OR Ivy, Jeremy, and INSERT FUCK BOY HERE for Lena

Ian LIs outside of Lena should be: Holly, Cindy, Minerva, and Louise or Ivy

Tons of non characters who sucked up space and routes
Thanks for your input? A little out of left field perhaps. You also only subtracted one love interest from each character and added a character that doesn't exist, so I'm not sure your solution is effective. Who the fuck is Simon?
 

KillerKlown

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Actually 2 LIs from each character, 3 really lol

EDIT: Which is a massive, first sweep pruning. I'd go further. I don't like Allison, but I'd keep her because she fits a niche but then I'd just merge her character with Gillian. Remove Stan from Lena, because old rich guy still fulfills that role. That or keep Jermey as sole fuck boy.
 
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Thanks for your input? A little out of left field perhaps. You also only subtracted one love interest from each character and added a character that doesn't exist, so I'm not sure your solution is effective. Who the fuck is Simon?
I totally find the issue being two protagonists. The story lines are the same, there is no big fork that can happen becuase the characters are on the same road. GGGB, there was an opportunity to have MAJOR story forks. ORS can't have that, the story lines for Lena and Ian, are like two balls bouncing down an alley. The characters can change a bit, but the alley keeps the story limited.
 
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KillerKlown

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Those Major Forks are overrated and don't mean as much to explortation as they appear. Illusion of Choice done well is better than choice, ect, ect.
 
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