Biscardone

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Oh crap, did I accidentally blow the lid off a sneaky subversive plot to humanize the manosphere types? Um. Shit. Uhhhhhhh, let's all pretend I didn't say anything and maybe they won't notice.
Well, TD and GIL are clearly woke, and they have taken a long and convoluted route to emasculate the player, and ultimately make frogs gay. Clear as day.

No, but seriously, a porn game can arouse you. If the story is well written, it can entertain you. But the story of Pale Carnation is also likely to make you think; maybe even stimulate some self reflection. If this isn't the best compliment you can attribute to a writer (of a porn game, of all things!), I don't know what is.
And while I may be derailing a bit, I think one of the clearest proofs of that is the fact that people are arguing about the game's themes from both sides of the barricades, so to speak. A writer supporting a specific thesis is easily spotted, in my opinion. But when people have to interpret the story, and inject their view of the world in the discussion, that's likely the sign that the writer has struck deep. It may be argued that some themes are portrayed only for shock value, but that's not something I read in Pale Carnations: at the risk of sounding like a broken record, to me humanity and empathy shine through the ugly folds of the story.

Not to detract from PC's artistic merit, of course. Pale Carnation is a great blend of two arts. One of the best examples on this site, for sure.
 
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strangelandQQ

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Either they mean the famous Japanese porn star JULIA with several hundred scenes in her career, or it's some kind of inside joke.
 

Ragnar

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I don't think PC is a misogynistic game. You can play the game as a degenerate or as a decent human being, the choice is yours and the writing will make sense due to the MC background.
In a market saturated with sleep molester simulators PC is like a breath of fresh air. The story is engaging and every character is more complex than good/bad dichotomies for tards.
You can count games like PC with one hand.
 

Ragnar

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Hmm I don't see a lot of them nowadays. I think time has changed since DoD
Even after patreon ban on incest content many try to bypass it with step-whatever or childhood frens.
Anyway, most devs play it so safe to avoid bans that everything is the same bland stories and tropes.
 

ename144

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Looks like it's time for another dev diary!
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I'm going to assume TD is talking about Chapter 4 Update *5* and hasn't entered the dreaded "update old content" spiral of doom. In the three weeks since the last diary [technically 22 days based on the reporting dates], that would mean TD and GIL averaged ~90 statics, 4.5 animations, and 1877 words per week. Overall, they are currently averaging roughly 100 statics, 2.2 animations and 1803 words per week since work on Chapter 4 Update 5 began. Here are the charts for Week 9:
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We've seen the first big spike in animations, and it will probably continue soon enough if Rosalind's content is next on the docket. It's cool we might have something to look forward to even when we aren't on her path; it's always nice when we can develop platonic relationships as well as sexual ones, and given she's currently staying with the MC it makes sense they might bond a bit. We'll see what happens, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

Beyond that, we clearly still have a ways to go on this cycle- especially since there's another day to come. I'm very curious about what that day might entail, but it will probably be a while before we get any hints. Ah well, good things require patience, right?
 
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