Ottoeight

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Question if you want the ending with Mina and Hana what choices should you make do you need to not have sex with Mina after you become official or is it only during the Felicity date you need to not invite Mina
Save and save often and don't overwrite your saves when an update comes out.



Anyway, she's Felicia.
 
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If you can romance/fool around with anyone on the Hana Fuck buddy path without having repercussions for cheating on her and possibly even get bothg her and Mina what is the benefit of having her as your gf
 
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If you can romance/fool around with anyone on the Hana Fuck buddy path without having repercussions for cheating on her and possibly even get bothg her and Mina what is the benefit of having her as your gf
Well, they know that. Devs have mentioned that they need to make Hana's GF path more enjoyable since we are losing content with most girls... and this upcoming update will possibly be the beginning of it.
 
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iirc the recent updates took 8 months? Is there a real chance this one will take maybe 9 or more? I know its hard to say so early, but I ask for a specific reason and maybe someone is familiar enough with the game and the creators to know.
There's definitely a real chance (the last update already took about 9 months, though it spanned two in-game days), but it's very hard to quantify that chance. It all comes down to how much content there will be in the update. Exhibitions are usually content heavy since there are a lot of sex scenes, plus some alternative paths to give our MC choices - to say nothing of all the plot and character development. With the stakes rising and Elias set to make his Club debut I do not believe this update will skimp on content, but what does that mean in terms of development time?

If we assume the most recent Dev Diary marks the effective start of work on the Exhibition itself, then assume the Exhibition will be roughly the same amount of material as the second Exhibition in Chapter 3 Update 4 (which took 167 days to develop), that would put our total development time at ~260 days or roughly 8.6 months. Of course, Ch3Up4 included some non-Exhibition content (mainly lunch with the Carnations), so maybe we could shave a little time off that estimate. Then again, with the story further along there's an argument to be made that Exhibition 3 will need to cover more material than Exhibition 2 did, so maybe our estimate is too conservative.

If you want my best guestimate, I'd expect this to run on the longer side; these things have a tendency to grow in the telling. But I wouldn't bet any money on that. If you want a more informed estimate, you'll need to get TD liquored up and see if he'll spill some details. Just don't overdo it: we need him back at work ASAP! :p

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Huh so to get the Hana and Mina route you need to not be in an official relationship with either by the end of the update guess i have some backtracking to do:oops:
Technically, you will get a version of the Hana/Mina scene if you formally commit to Hana and meet the other requirements, but it's one that ends with Mina realizing the MC effectively lied to Hana. I wouldn't expect that path to go anywhere pleasant.

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Content with the main or side girls?
Presumably you'll get unique content with Hana and lose out on non-Exhibition content with everyone else. That's the logical implication of committing to a monogamous relationship with her, no?
 
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As someone who played this game as a sadistic scumbag, dating Hana and immediately cheating on her was as natural as breathing. I haven't played since the update where you sleep with Mina and will probably wait until the next one drops, but I'm really curious about what will happen with Hana when she finds out.
 

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There's definitely a real chance (the last update already took about 9 months, though it spanned two in-game days), but it's very hard to quantify that chance. It all comes down to how much content there will be in the update. Exhibitions are usually content heavy since there are a lot of sex scenes, plus some alternative paths to give our MC choices - to say nothing of all the plot and character development. With the stakes rising and Elias set to make his Club debut I do not believe this update will skimp on content, but what does that mean in terms of development time?

If we assume the most recent Dev Diary marks the effective start of work on the Exhibition itself, then assume the Exhibition will be roughly the same amount of material as the second Exhibition in Chapter 3 Update 4 (which took 167 days to develop), that would put our total development time at ~260 days or roughly 8.6 months. Of course, Ch3Up4 included some non-Exhibition content (mainly lunch with the Carnations), so maybe we could shave a little time off that estimate. Then again, with the story further along there's an argument to be made that Exhibition 3 will need to cover more material than Exhibition 2 did, so maybe our estimate is too conservative.

If you want my best guestimate, I'd expect this to run on the longer side; these things have a tendency to grow in the telling. But I wouldn't bet any money on that. If you want a more informed estimate, you'll need to get TD liquored up and see if he'll spill some details. Just don't overdo it: we need him back at work ASAP! :p

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Thank you very much for the very detailed answer. Does the time count from the release date, in this case from the 10th of january?

Very kind of you to take the time to write this good reply. I appreciate it. And I think I may follow your advice with the liquor lol...
 
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There's definitely a real chance (the last update already took about 9 months, though it spanned two in-game days), but it's very hard to quantify that chance. It all comes down to how much content there will be in the update. Exhibitions are usually content heavy since there are a lot of sex scenes, plus some alternative paths to give our MC choices - to say nothing of all the plot and character development. With the stakes rising and Elias set to make his Club debut I do not believe this update will skimp on content, but what does that mean in terms of development time?

If we assume the most recent Dev Diary marks the effective start of work on the Exhibition itself, then assume the Exhibition will be roughly the same amount of material as the second Exhibition in Chapter 3 Update 4 (which took 167 days to develop), that would put our total development time at ~260 days or roughly 8.6 months. Of course, Ch3Up4 included some non-Exhibition content (mainly lunch with the Carnations), so maybe we could shave a little time off that estimate. Then again, with the story further along there's an argument to be made that Exhibition 3 will need to cover more material than Exhibition 2 did, so maybe our estimate is too conservative.

If you want my best guestimate, I'd expect this to run on the longer side; these things have a tendency to grow in the telling. But I wouldn't bet any money on that. If you want a more informed estimate, you'll need to get TD liquored up and see if he'll spill some details. Just don't overdo it: we need him back at work ASAP! :p

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TD1900 , ename144 suggested to get you liquored up to get you to talk, so...

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...so about that next release... ahem... is there a point where the two of you would say we split the update in two parts if it for example would take more than 10 months to release - or would you rather release it as one even if it would take 12 or more months? I know, very strange question, but its quite important to me and I would appreciate any kind of info on that end to plan ahead.

Also sorry for the watered-down beer...
 

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TD1900 , ename144 suggested to get you liquored up to get you to talk, so...

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...so about that next release... ahem... is there a point where the two of you would say we split the update in two parts if it for example would take more than 10 months to release - or would you rather release it as one even if it would take 12 or more months? I know, very strange question, but its quite important to me and I would appreciate any kind of info on that end to plan ahead.

Also sorry for the watered-down beer...
Lump sum is better for me. I can chew, I don't want little tiny bites.
 
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Thank you very much for the very detailed answer. Does the time count from the release date, in this case from the 10th of january?

Very kind of you to take the time to write this good reply. I appreciate it. And I think I may follow your advice with the liquor lol...
Release times are calculated from the initial release date of each update (so 2024-12-28 for Chapter 4 Update 6). This does introduce some potential weirdness as new tiers are added, but I think it's the simplest way to consistently track time spent creating an update.
 
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Release times are calculated from the initial release date of each update (so 2024-12-28 for Chapter 4 Update 6). This does introduce some potential weirdness as new tiers are added, but I think it's the simplest way to consistently track time spent creating an update.
You answered every question I had, that could have been answered by you. Thank you! I wish that your day is a good one.

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Oh. i perfectly get that worry, honestly seeing the guy there makes my skin crawl. I guess the quote was at least in part so i could delude myself ease my own worries which are pretty similar. :sneaky:
Tbh ever since the second challenge i believe it was where the loser gets bukkaked and filmed i've always had the feeling we will eventually have to leave 1 if not all but 1of the girls to the club or even Donovan and his business and now Mina has met August who seemed very interested in her honestly i am kinda worried no matter how kind/helpful you are to the girls main or side unless the Mc somehow gets on top they wont all get out of this either okay or at all
 

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I am pretty sure TD has said somewhere that we're not going to get a happy ending for everyone. Which makes sense given the circumstances. But it makes me sad, too. :(
Well, if at the end of the game we can just help every Carnation with their problem it would remove the stakes from the competition quite a bit, it really would depend on how generous TD feels about giving us a big happy ending, I'm personally all for it, but then you see all the comments of the people begging for an ending where all the girls end up as the clubs property and I do wonder what the general consensus even is, do people want the girls to be happy or not? :ROFLMAO:.

I think it's rather doable to give every girl a happy ending, if I remember correctly Rose's debt wasn't actually that big, and I think Ian could borrow some money to Edwin so he can help her, for Veronica I've heard a few theories of Mina lending a hand with some type of marketing campaign to make her Gym start making money, etc, Felicia's definitely the only one where I can't really see how the MC could help her achieve her goal, though, maybe being her a sugar baby is all she really needs :sneaky:.
 

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TD1900 , ename144 suggested to get you liquored up to get you to talk, so...

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...so about that next release... ahem... is there a point where the two of you would say we split the update in two parts if it for example would take more than 10 months to release - or would you rather release it as one even if it would take 12 or more months? I know, very strange question, but its quite important to me and I would appreciate any kind of info on that end to plan ahead.

Also sorry for the watered-down beer...
Seems beer was too watered-down...
 
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