Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Fayn Arawn]

I'll be honest, I can't be assed to read over 1500 pages of this thread so I'll just ask...why is this game not labeled as abandoned, especially with how trigger happy people are with that status these days?

It's not labeled as abandoned because the dev is still actively working on it and posts previews twice a month (on the 1st & 15th).

Per this site's Game Uploading Rules:

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• The developer states that the development has been permanently suspended.
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• Note: this prefix is only removed upon the release of a new update for purchase/download.

 

[starlite75]

i hope we get a ending were all the bad end path become canon lol like all charactherrs remember the optional ntr path would be hilarious

 

[Gwimmly]

i hope we get a ending were all the bad end path become canon lol like all charactherrs remember the optional ntr path would be hilarious

But the NTR bad ends are canon..

Joking but then again i guess it all depends on how the player views it? The whole rewinding time thing is pretty unique. But seriously yeah that would be an awesome little twist for an ending.

 

[pinkie96]

I wonder if there will be a canon ending at all

 

[Gwimmly]

I wonder if there will be a canon ending at all

An ambiguous ending? Power vacuum 2 confirmed

 

[TurdTickler3000]

I wonder if there will be a canon ending at all

We need more PV conspiracy theories! Speaking of theories i remember reading a discussion between some of you guys on here about Sterling being given human growth hormone by Hunter(i think it was Hunter)? Was the reason ever figured out later on?

 

[pinkie96]

An ambiguous ending? Power vacuum 2 confirmed

I Mean if there's multiple endings as WWG says including multiple good endings for each character. Does that mean there will be one canon good ending that all the character endings are a part of or will they be separate branching paths. And if they are branching paths then which one is canon.

We need more PV conspiracy theories! Speaking of theories i remember reading a discussion between some of you guys on here about Sterling being given human growth hormone by Hunter(i think it was Hunter)? Was the reason ever figured out later on?

I think the assumption is or WWG said that Hunter wanted Sterling as his heir and still taught he could win him over and share the girls. Hunter thinks this until Sterling starts causing him to lose organs

After that Hunter starts trying to get rid of Sterling

 

[Fayn Arawn]

We need more PV conspiracy theories! Speaking of theories i remember reading a discussion between some of you guys on here about Sterling being given human growth hormone by Hunter(i think it was Hunter)? Was the reason ever figured out later on?

I don't think the reason was explicitly stated in the game, but I infer that Hunter gave HGH to Sterling to make him bigger and stronger, thus more physically/sexually attractive to the ladies, which would help Sterling become a "Dio del Sesso". Hunter seemed motivated to ensure that his descendants continue this legacy, and I think he assumed a DDS Sterling would seduce all the women and then share them.

 

[TurdTickler3000]

I Mean if there's multiple endings as WWG says including multiple good endings for each character. Does that mean there will be one canon good ending that all the character endings are a part of or will they be separate branching paths. And if they are branching paths then which one is canon.

I think the assumption is or WWG said that Hunter wanted Sterling as his heir and still taught he could win him over and share the girls. Hunter thinks this until Sterling starts causing him to lose organs

After that Hunter starts trying to get rid of Sterling

Damn well thanks. I guess it's back to the drawing board for me..i kind of hope that the final bad ending is that everything Sterling has experienced after the groping of the girls by Hunter has just all been a drug induced coma/dream that Hunter has put him in. If i think about it..it's kind of weird how Hunter stops with the groping and hitting on the girls right after Sterling foils his plans. I mean i get the bad ends are supposed to show exactly that, but it just feels like Hunter was M.I.A for a lot of that time. You would think he'd still be constantly trying to hangout with the girls after that first time Sterling ruined his plans. Like Catherine at the pool, Ophelia while she was reading outside or when Brenna does whatever alone. And i'm pretty sure Hunter is pretty much always in his room when you click on it right? Also i guess i may be missing something like maybe Hunter was in the hospital for a long while after messing up his back during the stretch routine with Catherine? Why am i so addicted to PV theories

 

[TurdTickler3000]

I don't think the reason was explicitly stated in the game, but I infer that Hunter gave HGH to Sterling to make him bigger and stronger, thus more physically/sexually attractive to the ladies, which would help Sterling become a "Dio del Sesso". Hunter seemed motivated to ensure that his descendants continue this legacy, and I think he assumed a DDS Sterling would seduce all the women and then share them.

Ok and i think you guys also said that maybe he was planning on swapping with Sterling's body which i'm pretty sure happened in one of the bad ends right?

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Ok and i think you guys also said that maybe he was planning on swapping with Sterling's body which i'm pretty sure happened in one of the bad ends right?

Some chapter 13 teaser pics show a new "young Hunter" character, and there is a theory that "old Hunter" may have cloned himself and swapped his brain into a younger body. That's not exactly plausible based on current medical science in the real world, but Power Vacuum plays loose with science and so it might be possible within the story.

There was a bad end where Hunter impersonated Sterling with the help of a wig and psychedelic drugs, and there was a wallpaper where Hunter and Sterling switched body types. But I don't recall Hunter actually swapping bodies (or planning to) with Sterling.

 

[pinkie96]

Some chapter 13 teaser pics show a new "young Hunter" character, and there is a theory that "old Hunter" may have cloned himself and swapped his brain into a younger body. That's not exactly plausible based on current medical science in the real world, but Power Vacuum plays loose with science and so it might be possible within the story.

I mean we know for a fact that it's Hunter. We know cloning exists because of Anabelle II, young Hunter has surgical scars along his neck and head, and after the first teaser with YH WWG commented to confirm it was Hunter to remove any confusion.

Also a brain transplant is actually plausible in real life. Especially for someone with the ethics and wealth of Hunter.

Somewhat successful head transplants have been done with monkeys and dogs since the 70s. They were alive and could look around, hear, and eat, although they were paralyzed due to us not having the ability to connect the spinal cord and it's millions of nerve fibers. The immune system of the body attacking the foreign organs of the brain is also an issue.

These problems are however reduced by cloning which has also been accomplished IRL with animals. An identical clone would remove the issue of the immune system and reconnecting the nerves would be far easier as they already line up and are compatible. Gene editing, stem cells or micro surgery would be need for the nerve repair.

The procedure would be extremely expensive which is why Hunter is whoring families out all over the world including his own.

 

[TurdTickler3000]

I mean we know for a fact that it's Hunter. We know cloning exists because of Anabelle II, young Hunter has surgical scars along his neck and head, and after the first teaser with YH WWG commented to confirm it was Hunter to remove any confusion.

Also a brain transplant is actually plausible in real life. Especially for someone with the ethics and wealth of Hunter.

Somewhat successful head transplants have been done with monkeys and dogs since the 70s. They were alive and could look around, hear, and eat, although they were paralyzed due to us not having the ability to connect the spinal cord and it's millions of nerve fibers. The immune system of the body attacking the foreign organs of the brain is also an issue.

These problems are however reduced by cloning which has also been accomplished IRL with animals. An identical clone would remove the issue of the immune system and reconnecting the nerves would be far easier as they already line up and are compatible. Gene editing, stem cells or micro surgery would be need for the nerve repair.

The procedure would be extremely expensive which is why Hunter is whoring families out all over the world including his own.

I wonder if it was the same doctor who helped Hunter fix his back after the Catherine gym event? Lol

 

[Hermit76]

I mean we know for a fact that it's Hunter. We know cloning exists because of Anabelle II, young Hunter has surgical scars along his neck and head, and after the first teaser with YH WWG commented to confirm it was Hunter to remove any confusion.

Also a brain transplant is actually plausible in real life. Especially for someone with the ethics and wealth of Hunter.

Somewhat successful head transplants have been done with monkeys and dogs since the 70s. They were alive and could look around, hear, and eat, although they were paralyzed due to us not having the ability to connect the spinal cord and it's millions of nerve fibers. The immune system of the body attacking the foreign organs of the brain is also an issue.

These problems are however reduced by cloning which has also been accomplished IRL with animals. An identical clone would remove the issue of the immune system and reconnecting the nerves would be far easier as they already line up and are compatible. Gene editing, stem cells or micro surgery would be need for the nerve repair.

The procedure would be extremely expensive which is why Hunter is whoring families out all over the world including his own.

No, it isn't plausible in real life. Connection all the nerve fibers is exactly the problem. At best it isn't completely impossible. Of course it might be plausible in the pornoverse of Power Vacuum. We will see. And we still can't be completely sure about the Annabelle cloning, I think. As far as I know we still cannot rule out completely a rejuvenating curing treatmeant, which Hunter did not kow about. Or Hunter made himself immune to truth drugs. It's improbable, but possible. I mean, it's Hunter...

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I mean we know for a fact that it's Hunter. We know cloning exists because of Anabelle II, young Hunter has surgical scars along his neck and head, and after the first teaser with YH WWG commented to confirm it was Hunter to remove any confusion.

Also a brain transplant is actually plausible in real life. Especially for someone with the ethics and wealth of Hunter.

Somewhat successful head transplants have been done with monkeys and dogs since the 70s. They were alive and could look around, hear, and eat, although they were paralyzed due to us not having the ability to connect the spinal cord and it's millions of nerve fibers. The immune system of the body attacking the foreign organs of the brain is also an issue.

These problems are however reduced by cloning which has also been accomplished IRL with animals. An identical clone would remove the issue of the immune system and reconnecting the nerves would be far easier as they already line up and are compatible. Gene editing, stem cells or micro surgery would be need for the nerve repair.

The procedure would be extremely expensive which is why Hunter is whoring families out all over the world including his own.

Everything is impossible until it isn't, but as far as I know, there haven't been any doctors or patients willing to attempt a human brain transplant (i.e. full-body transplant) for many reasons: connecting nerves (as you mentioned), connecting blood vessels, possible immune system rejection (even in genetically identical cases), not to mention all the ethical baggage.

Power Vacuum includes some Michael Chrichton-esque science fiction, in that it plays with concepts that sound plausible but may be decades away from realization. So yeah, I'm like 90% sure young Hunter is old Hunter. I was the first one to point out the surgical scars after all. But for now I consider it just a theory, 1) in case I'm wrong, and 2) in case I'm right (to preserve some sense of surprise).

 

[Gwimmly]

Everything is impossible until it isn't, but as far as I know, there haven't been any doctors or patients willing to attempt a human brain transplant (i.e. full-body transplant) for many reasons: connecting nerves (as you mentioned), connecting blood vessels, possible immune system rejection (even in genetically identical cases), not to mention all the ethical baggage.

Power Vacuum includes some Michael Chrichton-esque science fiction, in that it plays with concepts that sound plausible but may be decades away from realization. So yeah, I'm like 90% sure young Hunter is old Hunter. I was the first one to point out the surgical scars after all. But for now I consider it just a theory, 1) in case I'm wrong, and 2) in case I'm right (to preserve some sense of surprise).

Unless...WWG is from the future?

 

[Gwimmly]

No, it isn't plausible in real life. Connection all the nerve fibers is exactly the problem. At best it isn't completely impossible. Of course it might be plausible in the pornoverse of Power Vacuum. We will see. And we still can't be completely sure about the Annabelle cloning, I think. As far as I know we still cannot rule out completely a rejuvenating curing treatmeant, which Hunter did not kow about. Or Hunter made himself immune to truth drugs. It's improbable, but possible. I mean, it's Hunter...

It isn't plausible..but it IS possible

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Unless...WWG is from the future?

Maybe that's why development is taking this long... WWG has to wait until we reach his original point in the timeline. Otherwise he risks altering his own past!

 

[frefdre]

I don't think the reason was explicitly stated in the game, but I infer that Hunter gave HGH to Sterling to make him bigger and stronger, thus more physically/sexually attractive to the ladies, which would help Sterling become a "Dio del Sesso". Hunter seemed motivated to ensure that his descendants continue this legacy, and I think he assumed a DDS Sterling would seduce all the women and then share them.

I thought it was mentioned in the trans sterling bad ending, he wanted to transition Sterling against his will, using the extra muscle tissue to rearrange him.

 

[Malicre]

Save file for those who do not want to waste time..
Contains the end of chapter 11 - the beginning of chapter 12

does anyone have a save with NTR turned on?