There is nothing more dangerous than trying to find reason in the "order of operations" in a time travel story. You must accept the explanations that the MC and the story give, or you simply will not enjoy the story haha.
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In theater and film terms, it's called "suspension of disbelief." Just go along and enjoy the ride.
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I guess if they ever watch the movie "Predestination" their mind will explode
. And I love those "perfect" paradoxes.
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12 Monkeys FTW.I guess if they ever watch the movie "Predestination" their mind will explode
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Yes that one is great also but Predestination is based on a Heinlein short story from the 50s that IMHO should be the base for every good time travel stories and paradoxes. And it was written in 1 day, he is one of the greats of sci-fi imo.12 Monkeys FTW.
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I can and will suspend my disbelief, sure. But if important plot points don't make sense, it will break my immersion. I'll still play the game, but I will enjoy it less.
Say what you will, but the more the coherent and plausible the story, the more people will appreciate it.
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It's pretty simple, Darci's mom was saved because the MC and Darci went back in time. If they hadn't, she would have died, which means Darci would never have been born, but since she was she HAD to go back in time to save her. It's what's called a predestination paradox. They're super common in time travel plots. Just look at Back to the Future.
Basically every time travel story has some (or several) sort of paradox(es). Like, you make a time machine to go back in time to do something, and by doing that and doing the thing, you no longer have the motivation / need to make the time machine in the future because the thing you initially did it for was already done, but it was only done because you went back in time to do it, which required the time machine.
You can get around the paradox(es) by never being able to return to your original timeline if ANY changes, no matter how miniscule, are made (which is basically impossible) - whenever you "return" to the present or future you're actually travelling to an alternate reality.
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Well it is still a good story with all the incoherence's and less plausible events that are intrinsic to time travel order of the events in the story aka plot(s). Maybe this sub-genre of sci-fi isn't for you, because the example you gave is far from the "worst"/incoherent I saw in time travel stories and it is easily explained in a time travel "logic" like I posted before or like UnoriginalUserName posted before this one, that she was only saved in the "present" because the events were "determined" that they would go back in time to save her. There is always hard sci-fi that relies more on realism, maybe more suited for you.
This is why rarely a sci-fi time travel story or movie is praised by the general masses, it is kind of a niche market but has still enough followers to deserve greatness. Maybe they don't want "more people will appreciate it" but the ones that love to (not) think totally out of the box.
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IIRC, in Back to the Future the MC traveled back in time somewhat by accident while trying to run for his life. It wasn't something like 'I have to go back otherwise my mom and dad will never get together', which is an analogy for what happens when Darci tells us we have to return to save her mom. Her mom is already safe and sound in her home, so it doesn't truly work as a plot device.
But this can still be written in a way that will make sense. Maybe the mysterious guy who probably sent the message to Darci had other reasons to send us back in time. And he knew we'd act on impulse trying to help Darci and her mom, and wouldn't think logically. That's pretty plausible, and I trust the dev to come up with e good explanation in the upcoming episode.
Regardless, I'm excited thinking we might get some quality time with Luna
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Predestination? Paradoxes? Multiple timelines? Ripple effects? Different dimensions? Butterfly effects? Or is it really that complicated after all?IIRC, in Back to the Future the MC traveled back in time somewhat by accident while trying to run for his life. It wasn't something like 'I have to go back otherwise my mom and dad will never get together', which is an analogy for what happens when Darci tells us we have to return to save her mom. Her mom is already safe and sound in her home, so it doesn't truly work as a plot device.
But this can still be written in a way that will make sense. Maybe the mysterious guy who probably sent the message to Darci had other reasons to send us back in time. And he knew we'd act on impulse trying to help Darci and her mom, and wouldn't think logically. That's pretty plausible, and I trust the dev to come up with e good explanation in the upcoming episode.
Regardless, I'm excited thinking we might get some quality time with Luna
I would personally equate it more to the Terminator timeline.
There must have been an original timeline where Sarah became pregnant from someone else and had a son called John. This person became the leader of the resistance to an original Cyberdyne/Skynet creator whomever that may have been. This would be the original 'unseen' timeline (or timeline zero). Skynet sends back a Terminator to prevent this (Timeline 1), Having eventually known about this (whether the terminator was successful or not is irelevant), the resistance send back Reece to avoid this scenario (Timeline 2, the one we actually see) etc etc...
However, regardless of how events transpire, inevetability is key.
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I didn't read exactly like that but you are free to take your own conclusions. I read more that Darci really wanted to know what happend to her mom 20 years before when she went missing and she truly believes/destiny (yes incoherent but works because Darci is still immature, impulsive and emotional and have a hero complex, triggered by a photo of her mom restrained) that she has to be saved by her and the MC. Of course if they wouldn't go she would still get found/saved since she is alive in 2019. Yes not the best plot device ever because it is made on emotion and impulsiveness but works either way. It would be worse if they were more experienced and still act like that.
Edit: The text in this render is what Darci truly believes, its irrational but that's who Darci is.
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For me the plot makes more sense with incest patch, along others might disagree. But both work fine. Keep in mind though that the patch is outdated, it's for 0.6 and not for newer versions, so it might crash the game. The multi-mod does have the incest tag integrated though, and it's for 0.7. But the content is the same with or without incest, it just changes the plot a bit.
About the 2nd question, you can still romance every girl, but you won't be able to have see all content, there are some scenes that you get from one girl or another, or none, depending your choice. Which is sad, because of my favorite girls on this game are on the most notorious choice. But you still are able to have content with all of them in one playthrough, just not ALL content.
There isn't any confirmation yet of harem with all girls, and the answers given hint that we won't have that in the end game. But that may change in the future, we never know. Still, even if I like to get all girls and not let one behind, I deeply recommend you to play it. Definitely in my top 5-6 on this website, it's well worth it, and the dev is actually a nice and down-to earth guy.
edit: wrote may can change lmao...
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Oh that's awesome thanks. I didn't realize updates would be uploaded separately, any I've seen so far were in the list with main downloads. Thanks, appreciate it!
Not an exaggeration. While 8.5g normally doesn't take long to download, all the upload sites have a rate limit that makes it take almost 2 hours. They also have a download limit, which means once it gets to 5gb downloaded or so, come back tomorrow and hope you can resume the download.