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There's one in the OP. It's not for 2.4.8, but it's fully compatible and will allow you to play just the new content.Can anyone please share their save file?
There's one in the OP. It's not for 2.4.8, but it's fully compatible and will allow you to play just the new content.Can anyone please share their save file?
The game is barely being held together right now. As simple as this sounds it might collapse the gameI hope that, at some point, they'll introduce a 'simulator'-like menu where we can take the existing assets from the base game
Despite the images that people are calling AI in question are pictures YOU CAN WATCH THEM DRAW BY HAND IN THE VERY FREE ACCESSIBLE STREAMS. Look this game has a lot of development problems, but AI is not one of them. It's an easily dis-proven point and it distracts from more valid discourse.because there has been some funky art that has tell tale signs. They also talked about doing it
Yeah, just cuz it's being hand-drawn NOW doesn't mean this stylistic change isn't also super obviously a transparent attempt to eventually switch production capabilities entirely. Dude builds his entire "brand" on drawing character designs ripped straight out of a TV show, but then starts purposefully drawing them like AI slop that conveniently has the correct number of fingers... the only conclusion therefore is that claiming this is a change in drawing preferences is total bullshit.Despite the images that people are calling AI in question are pictures YOU CAN WATCH THEM DRAW BY HAND IN THE VERY FREE ACCESSIBLE STREAMS. Look this game has a lot of development problems, but AI is not one of them. It's an easily dis-proven point and it distracts from more valid discourse.
I think you may be ascribing to conspiracy that which is more readily explained by the simpler concept of them no longer caring about quality or maintaining a consistent style.Yeah, just cuz it's being hand-drawn NOW doesn't mean this stylistic change isn't also super obviously a transparent attempt to eventually switch production capabilities entirely. Dude builds his entire "brand" on drawing character designs ripped straight out of a TV show, but then starts purposefully drawing them like AI slop that conveniently has the correct number of fingers... the only conclusion therefore is that claiming this is a change in drawing preferences is total bullshit.
Nah, I disagree with the idea of SS7 using LLM generated images when the old copy paste and recycled body type does the trick. The best example was in Themyscira when most of the amazons share the same body type and in some cases even the same poses.Yeah, just cuz it's being hand-drawn NOW doesn't mean this stylistic change isn't also super obviously a transparent attempt to eventually switch production capabilities entirely. Dude builds his entire "brand" on drawing character designs ripped straight out of a TV show, but then starts purposefully drawing them like AI slop that conveniently has the correct number of fingers... the only conclusion therefore is that claiming this is a change in drawing preferences is total bullshit.
Comrade Conspiracy says its a custom LLM based on the modular layers they already have in their catalog running on a home pc. Thus the evolutionary growth of the AI is negated by it being a private llm. As this is why they had some delays as they were building it and now it's not producing as hoped/planned. Tin foil away!!!And my two-pen'orth on the AI debate - I've created LOTS of AI-generated images using many models trained on SR7s work. They all produce stuff much closer to the previous style (albeit sometimes with too many fingers!). I would conclude that they're not yet using it, or only for backgrounds.
I mean, laziness is a perfectly valid explanation. Nor is it a mutually exclusive explanation... but also nor do I even pay for their Patreon. Honestly, boycotting their Patreon is the only logical answer to such shenanigans.I think you may be ascribing to conspiracy that which is more readily explained by the simpler concept of them no longer caring about quality or maintaining a consistent style.
That was clearly him drawing stuff to reuse it for Bend or Break 2, since all his "original" characters in Theyscira looked ripped from a different TV show. I mean, why not also copy paste it in the same game?Nah, I disagree with the idea of SS7 using LLM generated images when the old copy paste and recycled body type does the trick. The best example was in Themyscira when most of the amazons share the same body type and in some cases even the same poses.
Yes they are purposely "drawing like AI" because that makes more sense than "they moved to an art style you don't like". I'm not saying the new style is better or worse, but it is just like a fact that artists change their styles over time, you can call it being lazy, pandering, or just shifting their look, and its fine to not like said change in style, but calling it AI basically just because you don't like it is both misinformed and reductive of both larger issues in hand. Weather you like the style or not it's still hand drawn and not AI, so that critique is just blatantly false, and focusing on it or trying to double down on it does nothing but obstruct more constructive criticisms, like say their inability to deliver updates on time, how they interact with the online community as a whole "its not great lol", or yes even a distastes in artistic direction. As an artist myself I can say nothing will make an artist ignore your input or opinion regardless of their validity if you start falsely accusing them of AI shit. Granted Gunsmoke doesn't respond to criticism well anyway but still. You want them to change course then properly diagnose the issue, don't just throw blanket statements like "it's AI" when it's provably not. Criticize the things you don't like about the new style with CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and even if they don't say it out-loud most artists will at least keep it in mind.Yeah, just cuz it's being hand-drawn NOW doesn't mean this stylistic change isn't also super obviously a transparent attempt to eventually switch production capabilities entirely. Dude builds his entire "brand" on drawing character designs ripped straight out of a TV show, but then starts purposefully drawing them like AI slop that conveniently has the correct number of fingers... the only conclusion therefore is that claiming this is a change in drawing preferences is total bullshit.
Your argument basicly amounts to "My composite images made out of plagiarized SS7s looks closer to their old style, than their new art does" No, duh the computer is trained on the old art so it's going to emulate it more than an actual artist developing a stlye on their own. Also I've see the AI image threads you guys have and literally every image you make is trash even compaired to SS7s newer stuff. I'd rather have reused assets 1000 times over than any of that AI swill.I think you may be ascribing to conspiracy that which is more readily explained by the simpler concept of them no longer caring about quality or maintaining a consistent style.
They've been doing this so long, and their feedback on Patreon / Discord is a sycophantic echo chamber, so they just don't hear the negative opinions. They 'know they're right' because they're making all that money every month.
And my two-pen'orth on the AI debate - I've created LOTS of AI-generated images using many models trained on SR7s work. They all produce stuff much closer to the previous style (albeit sometimes with too many fingers!). I would conclude that they're not yet using it, or only for backgrounds.
Bro read their disclaimer, since it's a parody of copyrighted characters, them getting paid for the game is illegal. So everything that is into the game should be free for everyone. And their last public build was 2 years ago.TECHNICLY it is a build that was intented to be for people who donate to the fan project
Reddit is two blocks down.I'll be blunt the discourse for this game is toxic and childish on both ends. Yeah Gunsmoke Games sucks at delivering on time, and they blow at communication big time, but I almost get it when half this thread is people fasly accusing them of making AI, or bitching that the porn game they are PIRATING isn't coming out fast enough, or that it's shit because they artist or game is pandering to specficly THEY WANT. No I'm not judging you for not paying their patreon, I download it here too, but I also understand the part where TECHNICLY it is a build that was intented to be for people who donate to the fan project, and tbh 5 bucks every 2-3 months isn't that outragous. The entitlement here, and the arrogance of the Dev just makes it a sad discourse. Nobody can make any reasonable points, or have any nuanced opinion about it, because both sides have polarized so much that they refuse to even accept there might be a middle ground. It can't be a fan game made by a small dev team with little to no previous experieance working on a busted engine that so deadline issues and a controversal shift in art style. NO It's gotta be an AI scam to milk the masses out of their hard earned cash, where everyone is just sitting on their ass all day doing literally nothing. People giving honset critisism can't be people who genuinly enjoy the project and just like to see it improved, NO they are just trolls on the internet bitching and leeching off of Devs hard work. I've been a follower of this game since the begining, I've been following this tread since its start, sometimes I've even sucked it up and been a partreon supporter because I liked the content in the update and felt it was worth my 5 bucks. If I've learned anything, its that the loudest people on both ends are children with nothing constructive to say drowning out the few good faith players left. I don't think saying this is gonna change anything, but sometimes its nice to vent. If you're one of the few who's just coming here to download a game you like and avoid the drama, power too you, hope you're having a plesant day.
Learn to read, you illiterate philistine, saying "It purposely looks like AI generated art" is not the same as saying "It's AI generated art;" plus, failing to realize that criticism isn't required to be constructive but its presence is still indicative of a problem is sort of hilariously immature. But since your post got a like from the literal game dev for a comment defending them, the most obvious conclusion is that you're just a shill. So don't dislocate that arm patting yourself on your back!Yes they are purposely "drawing like AI" because that makes more sense than "they moved to an art style you don't like". I'm not saying the new style is better or worse, but it is just like a fact that artists change their styles over time, you can call it being lazy, pandering, or just shifting their look, and its fine to not like said change in style, but calling it AI basically just because you don't like it is both misinformed and reductive of both larger issues in hand.
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You want them to change course then properly diagnose the issue, don't just throw blanket statements like "it's AI" when it's provably not. Criticize the things you don't like about the new style with CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and even if they don't say it out-loud most artists will at least keep it in mind.
and there it is, the NO YOU'RE WRONG YOU SHILL comment lol. My point is was that nobody purposefully "draws like AI", not a hard thing to filter out, maybe check up on your own reading comprehension before you call people illiterate you plebeian. "yeah I can use old big word as unoriginal insults too. NOW WHAT BITCH!"Learn to read, you illiterate philistine, saying "It purposely looks like AI generated art" is not the same as saying "It's AI generated art;" plus, failing to realize that criticism isn't required to be constructive but its presence is still indicative of a problem is sort of hilariously immature. But since your post got a like from the literal game dev for a comment defending them, the most obvious conclusion is that you're just a shill. So don't dislocate that arm patting yourself on your back!
I know and I wanted to make this comment here lol. As I said, I know this a thread for pirating a parody porn game, it's not a place intended for "constructive conversation" it's just refreshing to vent. Plus seeing all the people get pissy about my comment is pretty funny, I expected like 1 or 2 children to whine, but the turn out here is amazing lol.Reddit is two blocks down.