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All of the 'official' packs are drawing upon the same characteristics to the point where you can point out a dozen chicks with the same nose, regardless of race etc.

I jokingly pointed out some 'twins' in the past, and that potential only appears to be growing.

I prefer the AI generated images over the imported porn stars with fuckdoll faces etc, but it seems the process has reached its limit. There's a few chicks with exactly the same face, but different body composition for example.
Well, I like some of the "twins", so if I hire them, I edit my save to give the same surname, and "in my mind" I treat them as relatives of each other. On other cases, I just delete some of the similar sets.

It's not the limit of the process, just the models that the AI uses - yes, the same models tend to draw similar faces. But there are tools to overcome this, and there are dozens of models to work with.

But it takes lots of times. I made same sets for myself, and, yeah, every sets have taken a couple days to make. (OK, I'm a beginner with Stable Diffusion, and had no idea what to do.)
 

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Installation:
1. Download game zip and extract
2. Download at least one image pack and extract

Its written on the 1st page
It is admittedly a bit hidden, since most of the time it is only "download and extract", so people may not read the "installation" box anymore.

However, even if you overlook it and get this error message, it's quickly solved: just download a pack or eight, restart. It really isn't a problem. Just like all the time one forgets to download a family friendly mod, or walkthrough, or whatever tickles your fancy. No need to get all bothered. (Not you obviously, the guy you were replying to.)
 

icesavage

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Bug: Opinion "Older People" - MC is 28, target NPC is 20 years old and has a current Attracted value of 58 with Opinion Older People at neutral. Set it to Like Older, attracted drops to 49. Set it to dislike and attracted increases to 68.

Bug: Club Management Screen - Avg Daily calculation includes the current day which is still 0 so on the second day of a new month, the average which at that point should equal the previous day are half of the day before, and the third day are 2/3s of what the average should be. Though the revenue numbers seem to be correct, but the rest are all counting an additional day when dividing for the average. I just noticed this when the game changed to a new year, dont know if it applies.
 
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Napster1150

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If you started fresh,your fame is 50 but in reality its lower.
Totalfluke explained it that its unfortunate but its that way.
Keep building fame and at some point it will start going over 50 eventually.
Thank you for the reply. What is a good way to increase fame early game? Both of my bartenders are terrible and I've trained them up to my measly level in service.
 

JamTart

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I can't get staff for my club. I thought originally it was because I built my club up to quickly, but I started a new game a kept it small and still not getting any staff. Almost no one will take a fair offer and many wont even take my best offer. What's going on? It wasn't like this until the update.
 

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I can't get staff for my club. I thought originally it was because I built my club up to quickly, but I started a new game a kept it small and still not getting any staff. Almost no one will take a fair offer and many wont even take my best offer. What's going on? It wasn't like this until the update.
Yeah after the latest update i'm having alot of interviews just end at after I offer even the highest possible wage without any response. It's like it just ends the interview. If you get them to agree to accepting a job offer from winning at gambling with them they usually accept more readily.
 
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DyreMezza

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Thank you for the reply. What is a good way to increase fame early game? Both of my bartenders are terrible and I've trained them up to my measly level in service.
I am still on my very first playthrough and experienced a rollercoaster of emotions ...mostly due my mistakes and wrong focus lol but now my club is very successfull and the fame is skyhigh.
So,your fame not to drop,you should keep your club clean...hire a janitor as soon as you can so you have free time to do other tasks.
Notifications from "influencers" will praise or trashtalk your employees,which makes your fame go up or down.
At the beginning its likely you will get staff with low skill numbers,you will have to train them.
Your skills might also be low in specific areas so you also need to improve...going to the library and reading books is important(ignore lewd books at the beginning except you want to trigger the start of cult activities).
I think also the quality of your clothing plays a role but they are expensive if you started fresh.

I dont think there is fast way(without cheating) to raise the fame fast.

PS...if you have a young girl as a stripper,there is a small chance that her mother will show up to talk to you.
Most mothers(i got 5 visits in total) will try to get their daughters out of your club BUT it might also happen that a mother wants you to hire her too.
A mother and daughter performing together will ocassionally bump up your fame significantly.

There some other ways to improve your fame but comes after certain laws passed and after a certain playtime...like hosting strip contests,inviting a pro stripper to your club,rich persons celebrating their engagement party in your club etc
 
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icesavage

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There is a way to set cheat to have all char with 100 love/lust ?
Not easily.

So, the two main NPC stats are Op / Attr. Op for Opinion and Attr for Attraction.

Attr is purely based off of the characters 'Opinion Like' values compared to your MCs stats. Mostly physical, but same opinions matter too (I think) but changing physical opinions gets you the quickest results. Meaning if you picked a Tall, Fit, Short haired guy, and then you go into and with 'set_like' fit, tall, short_hair all to 2 for every character in the game then aslong as they are attracted to your MCs sex, the Attr value will be very high.

Now for Op. Opinion is determined by modifiers. These modifiers are hard coded, but you can add them via the "add_mod" command. The bad part is though, that most modifiers only add a little Op so if you work within the convines of the game as written then you would have to add a number of modifiers to each character, in order to get anywhere near 100.

But there is another way. You can edit the modifiers.txt file in your data folder. First make a copy of the originial. (So you can go back if you break stuff). Next you will want to use a text editor like Notepad++ since standard Notepad is just bad. So scroll down in the file until after the Basic Social Interaction area then you create a new modifier.
Insert the following (Dont include the dashes):
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#
mod overpower "Overpowered" 100 0 1
#
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Save, then loadup the game.

Figure out the id of the character you want to change and then in the console use this command

"cheat add_mod $ 3 overpower" (no quotes and $ is the id of the NPC you want to have this modifier.

I tested it and it added 75 opinion to the character I tested it on.

Finally though, YOU ARE CHANGING THE CODE. YOU ARE DOING THIS WILLINGLY AND IT MAY BREAK SHIT!. IF YOU DO THIS AND THINGS BREAK, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN TO ME OR ESPECIALLY TOTALFLUKE!

Happy gaming.
 

Cartageno

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Thank you for the reply. What is a good way to increase fame early game? Both of my bartenders are terrible and I've trained them up to my measly level in service.
First: "early game" - "both of my bartenders": do not hire personnel too quickly, only when you are getting close to capacity.

Apart from that: the start is slow. Do not expect to rush ahead in the beginning. Keep calm and carry on as the brits say. Train yourself in the library, teach your employees, once you are debt free you might want to have higher level food/alcohol. But until you get at least singers allowed, there is not too much you can do.

There is a way to set cheat to have all char with 100 love/lust ?
Nope. Both are not individual values but calculated individually from various other variables.

Lust (Attraction) is a combination of their preferences and your attributes. You can individually cheat them to love all your defining attributes, but that's a long process (unless you have a cheat sheet filled with the data and all the NPC IDs, I guess, still tons of work, and to be renewed with every new NPC).

Love (Opinion) is mostly a result of their experiences with you, so you need to interact with them to set them.

Bug: Opinion "Older People" - MC is 28, target NPC is 20 years old and has a current Attracted value of 58 with Opinion Older People at neutral. Set it to Like Older, attracted drops to 49. Set it to dislike and attracted increases to 68.
I've seen similar. Once you go up/down to "loves/hates" the order should be okay again. Probably a result of (as with other stuff) things being weighted differently and not just added up.
 

jsas66

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First of course you shouldn't expand and hire as soon as you can, but wait for the club to settle in and some favorable laws to be passed. But that being said, on my first run the game created tons of people for all the positions I got so they should be there. They probably don't want to work for you though because you are deeply in debt and employees do not like that.
Thanks for the tip. I've had the same problem, it seemed to start with the last update.

I've been basically a new game per update, but didn't have a problem hiring people before version 9. And I started out fine in version 10. but now I'm getting, "She doesn't like your club very much".

I treat my employees great!! lol.

Breaks as needed
2 days off per period
regular raises and bonuses
etc etc

I hadn't realized the debt load though.
 

TotalFluke

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Please, please, please, it's not a complaint, just my own foul taste. And getting attached those old images I've seen a thousand times.

But here is one, from Amber, 00087.
Some of the Amber redos were for cases that they were very low quality images, on in this case the neck was too long and the head/neck junction was too obvious. And the face ligthing was too dark. The neck/head stuff can usually be fixed by smoothing things out but the face lighting can't. So meant creating a new face and plugging the new face into the old images. I tried to create the face fro the old one to keep it similar but sometimes the AI does its own thing.

Not remakes, but here are a couple from a later image pack that look a bit cartoonish to me:

For the first one, it's the big eyes that give that effect. The second is mainly the lighting, I think. I can't find an example at the moment but I think some of these later ones have slightly oversized heads as well. It's pretty subtle.
Those are very good catches. Those two images came from me trying different checkpoints (the source of the images used to train the AI). There are probably like 20 such images that are a bit different in that regard and yes they are less realistic. It's not what I would think when you say cartoonish but I can see now how that term would also apply. But that was back probably for the D/E image packs not any of the recent ones.

new update installed and when I try to hire an employee I get to the end and select the wage amount and nothing happens. Anybody know why?

When I opened up the debug menu I see invalid dialog replacement code '2oN' (3 args given)
Could be a bug. Haven't seen it but the accepting an offer was changed quite a bit to handle slaves having to accept and the minimum wage stuff. I haven't seen it, so anyone else that sees it and can provide additional context would be appreciated.

That dialog replacement code error is not specific to that (see further down for explanation on that)

Found a bug. My club's fame is always displaying 50 even though events happen that were supposed to have increased it (condoms upgrade, positive review of bartender). Is it just a display issue or is fame mechanic not working?
50 is the minimum it can be. But internally the math can indicate that it's 30. In which case we make it 50. But that means that you can do something that adds 10 points of fame, so the math now says its 40, which is still below the minimum so it remains at 50.

Here is a suggestion, you have an amateur night contest, there should be an option for a hosting a gambling tournament you could hold where you set the stakes and and invite people to play winner takes all with the option to play yourself.

Also the way gambling works, we should have the option to ask for higher stakes not just lower or back out or accept.
Interesting. Will consider it! The first part. The second part would be too overpowered. You being able to pick very high stakes each time would make it very easy to gain slaves.

Has anyone been able to trigger a slave interaction yet? I've seen the Very High Stakes choice a few times, but making someone a slave was never an option.
Ok, so there's a bug preventing this from happening. I added a fix to prevent a slave from becoming someone else's slave at the last minute and I screwed it up (mental note to stop doing last minute changes!). Instead is doing the opposite, only allowing a slave if they are already one. I can probably post a one-file download to fix it.

All of the 'official' packs are drawing upon the same characteristics to the point where you can point out a dozen chicks with the same nose, regardless of race etc.

I jokingly pointed out some 'twins' in the past, and that potential only appears to be growing.

I prefer the AI generated images over the imported porn stars with fuckdoll faces etc, but it seems the process has reached its limit. There's a few chicks with exactly the same face, but different body composition for example.
You are more right that you realize. I been trying different things to create more variety on the faces, but yeah, it seems that we have exhausted all posibilities. I've been looking for a new checkpoint to use. The problem is that too many checkpoints include too many "anime" images as models and that creates the cartoonish effect that some are complaining about. It also takes a while to get to know the right keywords and tags to use.

Potential Bug-Report

I lost a bet and now have to give up 10% of my revenue. I made the person I lost the bet against disappear from the mob. I can no longer interact or write to him via the contacts. But he still collects the money every month.
Oh yeah didn't think of that. Will fix. (Props for a great way to solve that issue!)

Regarding deleting characters you don't want, I was thinking a solution which might be easier is another toggleable symbol like the green star, call it a black circle, which would overlay any of the symbols. I might use it for all characters I don't want to deal with, like workers I've fired for stealing, or some other issue, but it could just as easily be used for role playing purposes, like tracking former government officials or whatnot. I suspect it would be tough to add, but probably easier than a way to delete characters on demand.

I have a question about the family with the incestual relationship, I got that to show up, but before I decided I didn't like too many key characters and decided to start over, I never got it to do more than repeat the same three or so meetings. Is this something which only goes farther if I let the father molest the MC or his date? Or do I need to just let it run for a year or more? Or is there some other criteria which must also apply? I thought it was going to be a legal attack on the club, claiming work contracted for but not paid for in the courts, and I thought I was seeing hints that he wanted his women hired at the club to be his eyes and ears, but when I expanded and tried to hire them to advance the plot, nothing happened.

The reason I decided I could go no longer was that I was trying to make good use of the PI, but he was a he, a nudist and a don juan who was always screwing someone in the bathroom, and got tired of seeing him. Might be nice to have a starting game toggle to make at least some of the game process characters lock into only women, if we're going to have to deal with them for quite a few hours. I know some should be male, but maybe a bit fewer would be a good option.
Will look into the hiding characters suggetions. It won't be easy like you said but I can see the use for it.

For the investors family you need to get the investor to like you more. The number of scenes available depends on how much he likes you. As it goes up, there will be addtional opportuities to increase it. You don't have to let him molest you or your date to make progress, but it helps. There's a bunch of steps, and it takes around a year to complete. Longer if your club is not advanced enough and have to build the auxillary office. But as long as his opinion keeps growing you will be making progress. Also try to bring the same date each time. The she liking them and vice versa also helps.

And here's a hint: when someone you want to like you more birthday comes up, always send them the big gift. That adds a possibly overpowered +20 opinion modifier. Don't lose that opportunity when it comes up.

You can change the male probability via the in-game options. However, there's some benefit to having males in some roles. It doesn't matter for the PI but male commissioners are more likely to pass the stripper laws faster than straight females.

This was addressed in the change log. In the past the incestous sex gossip was saved missing the target. The text to discuss it didn't included it, just said that "Jess had incestous sex". For 1.10 it fixed so that the target is saved and displayed. But gossips created before 1.10 don't have the person they had sex with. So it shows up as ??? in with the new dialog string that expects a target. As well as on the player details page. This also explains a bunch of those dialog replacement code errors in the log.
 

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This was addressed in the change log. In the past the incestous sex gossip was saved missing the target. The text to discuss it didn't included it, just said that "Jess had incestous sex". For 1.10 it fixed so that the target is saved and displayed. But gossips created before 1.10 don't have the person they had sex with. So it shows up as ??? in with the new dialog string that expects a target. As well as on the player details page. This also explains a bunch of those dialog replacement code errors in the log.
Probably this also is why I only see newer mothers when I hover over my child count, and not the ones who gave birth in a previous version/savegame?
 

Ayame

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The girl finally gave birth Screenshot 2025-03-09 005703.png
Is it the mother or the grandmother? (or "Mom" replaced the name)? Screenshot 2025-03-09 012354.png
She can go over 100?
 
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Cartageno

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I would like to add one to the typos I found after reading a screen a hundred times:

Favories.PNG

We all have our favories, don't we?
 
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internet_says

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The second part would be too overpowered. You being able to pick very high stakes each time would make it very easy to gain slaves.
I don't agree that it has to be overpowered, or really that being overpowered is inherently wrong if people want to play that way. I would say that having the option to negotiate higher or lower stakes on any of the games is more realistic regardless of stake. It doesn't need to be 100% chance they accept a higher stake game either. But having the option would give the player more control over their own experience which is I think what people look for in these types of games. Additionally If you are concerned with it being overpowered perhaps you could add a difficulty adjustment for gambling in the options like you have other things in the game so people could choose if they want an easier or harder challenge with it?
 

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Ok, so there's a bug preventing this from happening. I added a fix to prevent a slave from becoming someone else's slave at the last minute and I screwed it up (mental note to stop doing last minute changes!). Instead is doing the opposite, only allowing a slave if they are already one. I can probably post a one-file download to fix it.
Ah ok cool, I was losing my mind trying to trigger this LMAOO
 
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