VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[John972]

Here is the thing, i would be more than stupid to throw money at him. Two games, four years and no considerable progress whatsoever. His Dev logs are basically always the sam excuses in different wording. You can be as gullible as you like, it's your money afterall, but not everyone throws common sense out of the window like many of the fangirls here or his patreons.

Maybe some of these so-called "fangirls" are actually the adults in the room and have enough intelligence to know the difference between different types of Devs making games on F95.

1. There are a few Devs making a lot of money from their popular game(s) that have the resources and financial security to put out either regular or large updates.

2. There are many Devs (some that have been working on their games for as long as Ocean and some that have long equally update cycles) that don't have financial security, but are still going strong, still have the passion. Ocean is one of these.

3. There are many Devs that give it a good try, give up and their games are abandoned. Sometimes, this leads to broken promises and a bit of milking before the end. This usually happens within one or two years.

4. Then there are the known Milkers.

There are many low-rent thinkers contributing to this thread that just love to accuse Ocean of being a Milker. What an absolute bunch of unmitigated crap!

When Ocean took charge of Summer's Gone all those years ago (yeah, for those that don't know, Ocean gave the game to someone else to produce originally while he worked on WIAB), he put in an explicit warning/disclaimer in the game that there would be no sex scenes for a long while.

Ocean's problems with third party providers being cagey about adult-themed material has meant he's had to shelve sexy-times completely for Season 1 of Summer's Gone. Anyone that thinks he wanted to do that rather being forced into doing that, is thinking with their cock rather than their brain.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I can understand all that, but we are in the same, when this game has explicit scenes what will happen? it will be removed from steam? or the game has become a development without future sexual scenes by steam?

I love the story and what gets to immerse the background of the characters, but if in the end it will become a +13 game, I'll leave it aside.

Season 1 is intended to reach a broad audience.

Meushi gave a great summary one post above yours.

We believe that Season 2 will have more lewd scenes and sex.

My theory - the MC/Amber trip to the cabin where he suffered some major level of trauma will start the process to heal him from the psychological trauma that seriously limits his ability to get excited for other women (he did tell Nami that he can get excited when he thinks about Summer - which of course no other woman wants to hear if he is with her).

If my theory holds, then the MC is going to start to have a sexual response to the various women around him.

This could actually be comical in some ways - like the MC getting a boner in class while giving a presentation, while lying in Amber's lap while they are in a therapy session or imagine him getting major wood while talking with the cougars at the next book club meeting - the possibilities for humor and opening the door for one off sexy time with a few cougars are Endless!!.

Ocean has All kinds of ways to play up the MC once the genie is 'uncorked'

So I see Season 2 (chapters 6 - 10) being far more than rated 13+.

Believe me - it is hard to wait for the sexy time, but I absolutely believe that it will be worth it And that it will fit the story rather than trend towards Pornhub shorts.

I suspect (how I would do it if it was me) that the tags for Summers Gone will change once we start getting sexy time. If a chapter adds HJ and BJ, then I think that those tags will be added once the content includes that.

I also believe that the opening screen (blueball warning) will go away or be modified once sexy time arrives.

If a great story without sexy time is not your thing, I recommend checking back in and looking at tags/reading commentary once CH 6/6.5 is out.

There are plenty of other AVNs on F95 that have good stories and sexy time - I'm enjoying a number of them now.

Cheers!!

 

[Zeniks1895]

Well,it seems that Jeff+Nami=canon

Why do you think it's canon? Nami is second most popular LI after Bella and throuple MC+Nami+Bella is possible, so most probably that would be canon. Anyway i hope Ocean is just joking about Jeff and Nami. I dont get it why in some AVN there is always some creep so called "friend" of MC who is lusting over MC's mother/sister/girlfriend. They are always piss me off.

 

[Vopeco]

Previous chapters have revealed that the MC believes Nami's behavior in the past contributed to his current mental health (and impotency) problems. She was involved in "the incident".

In this chapter, it sounds like she deliberately and repeatedly came on to him and then cockblocked him in the past. I suspect she also flirted with other guys at high school to make the MC jealous.

Would certainly be quite interesting if they have a lengthy past history of feelings for each other and behaving the way they've behaving from the start of this game. I'm still confused about it all though. It does sometimes feel like how you describe based on what's being said or inferred but then..

Nami says "I didn't see that coming in a million years" at the beginning of the chapter. If by cockblocking him you mean she led him on, he took the bait and pursued her but then she withdrew then I don't think so based on a few dialogue. The MC says in 4.5 that there is a change in perception with her but doesn't add anything like that they are old feelings for her that are resurfacing so idk..still a bit confusing what's really going on.

Damnit. Now we've got to wait who knows how long to see some more progress and get a little bit more info.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

5k Patreon subs = 5k Patreon suckers. Lets just say that I only pay for kinks I actually like, this doesn't even have sex in it. Hell even Nami's ass job (the best scene of the whole AVN up to now) was removed (hip hip hooray to Sancho for putting it back). So I'd probably be cutting my losses if I was foolish enough to sub.

And yet you are still paying with your time to be here and complain.

Time is a currency. If you don't believe this now, give it a few decades and you will!

BTW - I am on Subscribestar - I'm one of those 'suckers' and I can think of few VNs I'd rather invest in than Summers Gone.

Cheers!!

 

[yossa999]

Well...

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Haha, do you realize this part is still subject for rework? So maybe Jeff has a chance

 

[Vopeco]

Why do you think it's canon? Nami is second most popular LI after Bella and throuple MC+Nami+Bella is possible, so most probably that would be canon. Anyway i hope Ocean is just joking about Jeff and Nami. I dont get it why in some AVN there is always some creep so called "friend" of MC who is lusting over MC's mother/sister/girlfriend. They are always piss me off.

Could be trolling because he knows that's besides any Dev that would do that dirty to their fans where they make the LI's of their game end up with different guys would get pretty big backlash. I'm talking about making it canon, not if the player doesn't pursue a LI and she ends up with someone else during your specific playthrough, I think that's fine. Like for example I am not pursuing a number of girls in my playthrough I don't care if they end up in a relationship with another guy but making it canon they end up with another guy would be a giant middle finger to the fans of those LI's. We are starting to see some of the LI's from WIAB in SG so guess we'll find out though what the Dev does.

 

[Old Man Al]

Haha, do you realize this part is still subject for rework? So maybe Jeff has a chance

Sure. But personally I don't think so.

 

[xCalon]

Currently, I have 29 playthroughs (27 from Ch. 1 to the end of Ch. 4.5, and 2 from Ch. 1 to the end of Ch. 5 Beta) with Summer's Gone. Yeah, crystal clear I'm a complete idiot who invests an insane amount of time into this AVN, even though some people think it's worthless garbage.
Obviously, my opinion is the exact opposite. (Change my mind, if You can! Good luck with that! )
Although I'm not a supporter, but I will buy it as soon as it's available on Steam.

The replaced cinematic of the first chapter: the new one makes a lot more sense in terms of the story, and the choice of music fits it amazingly well.
The adjusted/changed scenes: I can live with them, without any particular problems.

My favorite scenes (Ch. 1 - Ch. 4.5):

Ch. 2:
- Bella's Home when Bella wants You to tell her your story
- Rehab when Vic is panicking, and You offer to face their fears together

Ch. 3:
- Bella's Home when You tell Bella, You understand how she feel
- Shopping with Bella (the changing room scene)
- Gym with Bella (the entire scene)

Ch. 3.5:
- When Bella and You go get burgers (the entire scene)
- Park with Mila (the entire scene)

Ch. 4:
- You're still handcuffed in the girl’s locker room, and Robin call Bella, who comes & frees you. (the entire scene with Bella)
- Before start the boardgame, the conversation with Nadia
- The conversation at the pool with Zara
- You knocking Zara to the ground, then You carry her
- Tennis when You throw the ball at Zara's head.

Ch. 4.5:
- Walk and kiss with Mila / Walk and kiss with Vic
- When You hear a low, familiar rumble outside, and Bella arrives. That Bella cinematic, oh, boy...

PaxHadrian17: Due to the Ch. 5 Beta, I started all over again, and for the first time I played through it with music. You've convinced me, in Summer's Gone there is some great music that's filthy catchy, and hard to get out of your head.

Later, I will also write some thoughts about Ch. 5!

 

[raider_manhc]

let me gues, again 0 adult content for a Adult game, 4 years, 5200 patreons , ok

maybe you should have read the dv note on FIRST page
it clearly says "
This isn't a porn game! This is a story-focused game with adult elements.
If you just want to fap, this is certainly the wrong game for you.

Story build-up does need some time. "

go play another game or watch porn if you are so deperate, personally id rather have a great story, thats whats make the game and other like the delucas etc great, they all have a great story first.

 

[John972]

Would certainly be quite interesting if they have a lengthy past history of feelings for each other and behaving the way they've behaving from the start of this game. I'm still confused about it all though. It does sometimes feel like how you describe based on what's being said or inferred but then..

Nami says "I didn't see that coming in a million years" at the beginning of the chapter. If by cockblocking him you mean she led him on, he took the bait and pursued her but then she withdrew then I don't think so based on a few dialogue. The MC says in 4.5 that there is a change in perception with her but doesn't add anything like that they are old feelings for her that are resurfacing so idk..still a bit confusing what's really going on.

Damnit. Now we've got to wait who knows how long to see some more progress and get a little bit more info.

There's little snippets of conversation between the MC and Nami that provide a little context:

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[Ottoeight]

Once again, some people still haven't realised that Patreon is including "free subscribers" in their patrons' number now. Ocean doesn't have 5 thousand paying patrons.

Honestly, I've had enough of F95 users claiming that some devs have "too many" patrons. And I've had enough of people talking about Patreon numbers who haven't realised that Patreon have inflated their numbers.

I've seen too many threads poisoned by these "Patreon inflated numbers" arguments lately. Time to give it a rest.

My 2 cents, of course.

 

[abdje019]

I dont get it why in some AVN there is always some creep so called "friend" of MC who is lusting over MC's mother/sister/girlfriend. They are always piss me off.

You n me both!
I would have killed
any of my friends
if they tried
that is not a bro
that is scumbag behavior

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Here is the thing, i would be more than stupid to throw money at him. Two games, four years and no considerable progress whatsoever. His Dev logs are basically always the sam excuses in different wording. You can be as gullible as you like, it's your money afterall, but not everyone throws common sense out of the window like many of the fangirls here or his patreons.

You seem quite happy to park on a thread and complain about those who support Ocean with their $ and yet you are happy to take what others pay for, download it and then complain about it.


Two games, four years and no considerable progress whatsoever.

his dev logs are 'basically always the sam excuses in different wording.'


It's easy to complain and drop a dime on someone, making all-encompassing statements while providing No screenshots or actual details. The devil is in the details - where are they?

I get that you have a bug up your backside about Ocean/Summers Gone or both.

So What!!

If you want to actually discuss Summers Gone - here we are:

What do you like about it?

What do you dislike about it?

Why do you keep coming back to this thread?

I'm happy to engage in a discussion. as are others.

If all someone can do is rant though, then they get put on the ignore list as they have nothing useful to share.


We've heard your complaints.

Did you actually have something specific about Summers Gone to share with us

or

was the subtext of your various posts really: please put me on the ignore list as I have nothing but rants to offer everyone here?

Common sense says I should just put you on my ignore list But, call me crazy, I decided to see if you actually wanted to have a discussion about Summers Gone.

Cheers!!

 

[SweatyDevil]

Summers Gone - No Textbox + Added Outlines Mod

This small mod will remove textbox and for easier reading add outlines to all text in game. Will work for any version of the game.

 

[AlexFXR]

1. There are a few Devs making a lot of money from their popular game(s) that have the resources and financial security to put out either regular or large updates.

2. There are many Devs (some that have been working on their games for as long as Ocean and some that have long equally update cycles) that don't have financial security, but are still going strong, still have the passion. Ocean is one of these.

This is where you are wrong. This topic has already been discussed many times. Remember what DPC said? He said he was going to make a big game that would take a long time to develop. He also said that there are a lot of milkers on Patreon, so he is going to make the game without delays and will put all his efforts into developing the game. Who stopped Ocean from doing the same? He could throw all his energy into developing the SG, and when it was ready, he would start making Wiab. But Ocean decided not to invest a lot of effort and is slowly developing both games and getting some money from both. Therefore, he has no financial security. If you work slowly, you get little money, if you work quickly, you get a lot of money... Everything seems fair.

 

[Stolarus]

let me gues, again 0 adult content for a Adult game, 4 years, 5200 patreons , ok

Dude it's story and relationship build-up

However dont ask about how every girl goes naked infront of MC for no reason (+ getting frisky all the time) and seem to have fallen for an edgy teenager with erection problems

 

[PaxHadrian17]

But this thing has been addressed many times in the game. The MC constantly pushes himself out of his comfort zone, he believes that this will help him to heal and become sociable. Even Nami was worried about this and warned him not to overdo it. Just recall their conversation at the lake, and later at Nick's, where he challenged Zara to a tennis duel.
So he struggles with his social anxiety, and being around people is one way to do that.

Another funny example, a movie night with Vic and Mila, when the girls started talking about their breasts and ended up talking about the vaginas. And Nami looked at Nika with suspicion, accusing him of not complaining about the topic. He replied that one way to get out of his comfort zone is to listen to this awkward conversation And Nami baited him to the book club, she emphasized that Noji didn't want Nika there and piqued his curiosity.

But he clearly overdid it with socialization, after several years of loneliness and depression, he jumped too quickly into social activities, made many new acquaintances and took part in too many events. Hence the increase in the number of panic attacks and their intensity, putting aside the fact that he did not work through the underlying psychological trauma with Amber.

I actually think that the MC is, with the move to Nick's place, even more vulnerable to anxiety attacks.

Nojiko and Nami know about them and I think both work with him unconsciously to help mitigate them.

The MC Just moved into a new house and a new room with most of his material goods still missing from that room.

His sense of security with a room that was all his for years is now gone.

I expect Vanessa to press his buttons to try to manipulate him while I see Zara pushing to spend more time with him, not realizing that his alone time is how he recharges from all the social activity.

I don't know what options we will have for future interactions, but I intend to keep Vanessa at arm's length if at all possible (I don't trust her) while I will try to share with Zara if she sees me having a panic attack.

Living at Nick's place opens up Many new possibilities for the MC re: Zara (and even Bella & Amber since they live just down the road).

But these new possibilities come with, I believe, a higher likelihood of panic attacks.

Cheers!!

 

[yossa999]

I actually think that the MC is, with the move to Nick's place, even more vulnerable to anxiety attacks.

Nojiko and Nami know about them and I think both work with him unconsciously to help mitigate them.

The MC Just moved into a new house and a new room with most of his material goods still missing from that room.

His sense of security with a room that was all his for years is now gone.

I expect Vanessa to press his buttons to try to manipulate him while I see Zara pushing to spend more time with him, not realizing that his alone time is how he recharges from all the social activity.

I don't know what options we will have for future interactions, but I intend to keep Vanessa at arm's length if at all possible (I don't trust her) while I will try to share with Zara if she sees me having a panic attack.

Living at Nick's place opens up Many new possibilities for the MC re: Zara (and even Bella & Amber since they live just down the road).

But these new possibilities come with, I believe, a higher likelihood of panic attacks.

Cheers!!

Damn reaction limit
In general, it all comes down to one thing: Amber must work her magic on MC. And if that means the MC has to boink her as many times as necessary, that's a sacrifice my MC is willing to make.

 

[John972]

This is where you are wrong. This topic has already been discussed many times. Remember what DPC said? He said he was going to make a big game that would take a long time to develop. He also said that there are a lot of milkers on Patreon, so he is going to make the game without delays and will put all his efforts into developing the game. Who stopped Ocean from doing the same? He could throw all his energy into developing the SG, and when it was ready, he would start making Wiab. But Ocean decided not to invest a lot of effort and is slowly developing both games and getting some money from both. Therefore, he has no financial security. If you work slowly, you get little money, if you work quickly, you get a lot of money... Everything seems fair.

DPC is one of the Tier 1 Devs in my list. To the best of my knowledge, he gained financial security after Steam release. By the way, DPC is also a Dev who has taken so much shit from punters on F95. Haters gonna hate.

Ocean also said he was going to make big games that would take a long time to develop. The difference is Ocean has his own vision (slow burn) and wants to develop two games at once to avoid burn out - knowing these decisions would be unpopular in some circles. He has been upfront with all of this since the beginning. F95 is replete with games abandoned by Devs who had no vision, tried to please all of their Patreons all of the time, failed, and quit.

I think I am right saying WIAB is/was Ocean's first love. Summer's Gone is more popular though (the two games have separate Patreon accounts) and was bringing in more $$ last I heard. Ocean originally let another Dev make SG while he continued with WIAB. He took over development of SG when that arrangement didn't work out.

Who the heck says Ocean works slowly, other than you? Don't conflate working on two games at once as "working slowly". That's insulting.