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You're best with a new playthrough anyway... even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
Well, maybe the problem is that Ocean still has to remake the scene between Nika and Bella's aunt in the infirmary. The whole first basketball lesson + infirmary scene are still from the "old game" version and they need to be remade for the full chapter 5 (and Steam) release.
 

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Well, maybe the problem is that Ocean still has to remake the scene between Nika and Bella's aunt in the infirmary. The whole first basketball lesson + infirmary scene are still from the "old game" version and they need to be remade for the full chapter 5 (and Steam) release.
Indeed.. I think Ch2 needs a complete overhaul again... I've passed him most of my notes... he'll get it all sorted at some point.
 

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You're best with a new playthrough anyway...
That happened to me while a fresh restart just with the (borked) ICPatch. Because the lack of a certain mod whose dev was to lazzy and more busy to finish a ribey instead being our selfless coding slave. :p

. even if you use SanchoMod. While not technically required there were some changed variables, some removed, some added, etc. Not to mention several chapters have hundreds upon hundreds of transition, restructure, etc changes in them. Just start fresh... and if you're playing unmodded you'll likely want these two fixes from my post here I made just for unmodded Players.
Yeah I noticed that two fixes of yours, nice work bud. This game is one of the few I play mostly undmodded - beside the ICPatch. I can say that in the most cases I prefer a detailed PDF walkthrough over the usuall pick the green and not the red awnser mods.
Anyway, your mods are a superp piece of work.

When Ch5 Full is released I will go fir it again when you have finished your mod. (y)
 

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That happened to me while a fresh restart just with the (borked) ICPatch. Because the lack of a certain mod whose dev was to lazzy and more busy to finish a ribey instead being our selfless coding slave. :p



Yeah I noticed that two fixes of yours, nice work bud. This game is one of the few I play mostly undmodded - beside the ICPatch. I can say that in the most cases I prefer a detailed PDF walkthrough over the usuall pick the green and not the red awnser mods.
Anyway, your mods are a superp piece of work.

When Ch5 Full is released I will go fir it again when you have finished your mod. (y)
My bud Meushi makes excellent written walkthroughs...but I reckon you likely know that. If not it's listed in the VN's OP (unlike my hundreds of hours of work :/)
 
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Huh...i just noticed that when you chose to kiss Nami at the end of chapter 4, basically responding to her feelings, she also starts to get pretty jealous of the other girls.

For example when you carry Zara on your shoulders, Nami reacts to that.

If you didn't kiss her, she doesn't say anything about it and the scene just goes on.

Interesting detail added by Ocean, a small one but very interesting, and there are other details in this chapter regarding her if you respond to her feelings.
 

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Yes, but we are still in the same, when the game has lewd scenes it will have to disappear from german steam anyway, why release the first season then? why not stick to other markets? why not leave those scenes in the patreon version that don't require code change?

Something smells fishy to me....
Ocean said so as not to lose music and earn more money.
 

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Whatever you say I like this bitch :love:

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I must admit i wasn't a big fan of Bella at the beginning and i liked much more Nami and Mila, but after the new update, i think she is at the top and surpassed her.

I was thinking that she will begin to change after she ends up with MC, becoming a good girl or something, but i'm glad she remained the same and i hope she will remain like that.

Bella being an evil bitch is what makes her charming and a favorite LI
 
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I think BaD can't compete with SG in terms of graphics quality. In general, few can leave her any competition.

Ocean received a game that has already achieved success thanks to Regium. Regium made characters with different personalities and behavior. Ocean could not repeat this and his characters are all the same and differ only in appearance. Example: At the beginning, Nami sexually harassed MC and showed him her tits without reason, then Victoria started doing this, now it’s Bella’s turn. Now Zara began to harass MC. Almost all the characters have no personality, they are like soulless dummies.
Regium is an excellent director, Ocean is an excellent artist. Therefore, SG becomes more and more beautiful with each update, but the plot becomes more and more boring and drawn out.
Yeah, we're simply gonna have to disagree on this one. Visual quality aside, Regium's version of the story was superficial at best, and unbelievable at worst. As a case in point, it took until the current Ch 5 to remove that utterly ridiculous Marla shooting event, a legacy from Regium's version.

I get it that there's still a lot of people pissed than Ocean isn't continuing Regium's psychopathic characterizations.

To the best of my knowledge, SG is not Regium's concept. He got handed the premise by Ocean.
 

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Yeah, we're simply gonna have to disagree on this one. Visual quality aside, Regium's version of the story was superficial at best, and unbelievable at worst. As a case in point, it took until the current Ch 5 to remove that utterly ridiculous Marla shooting event, a legacy from Regium's version.

I get it that there's still a lot of people pissed than Ocean isn't continuing Regium's psychopathic characterizations.

To the best of my knowledge, SG is not Regium's concept. He got handed the premise by Ocean.
That scene with the gun was Regium doing?

Then i'm glad Ocean is taking care of this game instead :KEK:
 

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I must admit i wasn't a big fan of Bella at the beginning and i liked much more Nami and Mila, but after the new update, i think she is at the top and surpassed her.

I was thinking that she will begin to change after she ends up with MC, becoming a good girl or something, but i'm glad she remained the same and i hope she will remain like that.

Bella being an evil bitch is what makes her charming and a favorite LI
Bella good.jpg
 

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Yeah, we're simply gonna have to disagree on this one. Visual quality aside, Regium's version of the story was superficial at best, and unbelievable at worst. As a case in point, it took until the current Ch 5 to remove that utterly ridiculous Marla shooting event, a legacy from Regium's version.

I get it that there's still a lot of people pissed than Ocean isn't continuing Regium's psychopathic characterizations.

To the best of my knowledge, SG is not Regium's concept. He got handed the premise by Ocean.
Utterly disagree on all fronts. Regium's version was the one I fell in love with and it still pains me how mediocre the game became after Ocean started developing it. I was on board with toning down the "psychopathic characterizations" and some over the top scenes but overall I liked Regium's vision for SG a lot more than I do Ocean's.

I wouldn't say I'm pissed at all. Just disappointed. Game fell from being my top 1 for almost 2 years to barely being in my top 15. It became average for me but by no means bad.

I still have a pre CH3 version that I play sometimes and that is still my headcanon. Psycho MC > panic attack MC imo. It was just more interesting.

But to each his own. I do not condemn Ocean for making the game more mainstream and chasing the €. It's a smart move. He just won't get any from me.
 
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Utterly disagree on all fronts. Regium's version was the one I fell in love with and it still pains me how mediocre the game became after Ocean started developing it. I was on board with toning down the "psychopathic characterizations" and some over the top scenes but overall I liked Regium's vision for SG a lot more than I do Ocean's.

I wouldn't say I'm pissed at all. Just disappointed. Game fell from being my top 1 for almost 2 years to barely being in my top 15. It became average for me but by no means bad.

I still have a pre CH3 version that I play sometimes and that is still my headcanon. Psycho MC > panic attack little bitch imo. It was just more interesting.

But to each his own. I do not condemn Ocean for making the game more mainstream and chasing the €. It's a smart move. He just won't get any from me.
Damn the people who have panic attacks!

They are such little bitches, it's embarrassing and disgusting :mad::mad::mad:(n)
 

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Damn the people who have panic attacks!

They are such little bitches, it's embarrassing and disgusting :mad::mad::mad:(n)
Huh? Are you ok? Do you have panic attacks? Are you self-inserting into the game? It's a visual novel buddy, the characters aren't real. It's not healthy to conflate reality and fiction.

I was establishing a comparison between "psycho MC" and "bitch ass panic attack MC" and claming to find the first more interesting. How you manage to interpret that as me bashing people who suffer from panic attacks or otherwise any mental issues is beyond me.

EDIT: I edited my original post just in case. Don't want to offend anyone.
 

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That scene with the gun was Regium doing?

Then i'm glad Ocean is taking care of this game instead :KEK:
I still keep Zips of the earlier versions of the game.

Here's Regium's Chapter 1 Beta:

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A recent discussion I had involves someone claiming Regium's story and characterizations are superior to Oceans. I strongly disagree.

For anyone who cares, following is the Bella school uniform prank scene by Regium. Compare it to Ocean's version and judge for yourself...

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EDIT/ADDENDUM: It's worth pointing out this subsequent post by FunChaser, stating that the story was always Ocean's and Regium just did the renders etc.

This makes comparisons between Regium's and Ocean's storytelling/characterizations an ENTIRELY MUTE POINT. The story was apparently always Ocean's and never Regium's.

Actually all scenes in SG are Ocean's doing. Regium did renders for chapters 1 and 2, now almost all of them were replaced (reworked), and plot was also changed by the initial storywriter (Ocean).
 
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I still keep Zips of the earlier versions of the game.

Here's Regium's Chapter 1 Beta:

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A recent discussion I had involves someone claiming Regium's story and characterizations are superior to Oceans. I strongly disagree.

For anyone who cares, following is the Bella school uniform prank scene by Regium. Compare it to Ocean's version and judge for yourself...

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Utterly disagree on all fronts. Regium's version was the one I fell in love with and it still pains me how mediocre the game became after Ocean started developing it. I was on board with toning down the "psychopathic characterizations" and some over the top scenes but overall I liked Regium's vision for SG a lot more than I do Ocean's.

I wouldn't say I'm pissed at all. Just disappointed. Game fell from being my top 1 for almost 2 years to barely being in my top 15. It became average for me but by no means bad.

I still have a pre CH3 version that I play sometimes and that is still my headcanon. Psycho MC > panic attack MC imo. It was just more interesting.

But to each his own. I do not condemn Ocean for making the game more mainstream and chasing the €. It's a smart move. He just won't get any from me.
Yeah, I know. It comes down to personal preference.

I happen to feel the opposite. I played the original and found it average and juvenile. [having said that, I still keep Zips of the earlier versions for reference].

As you say, each to their own.
 

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Huh? Are you ok? Do you have panic attacks? Are you self-inserting into the game? It's a visual novel buddy, the characters aren't real. It's not healthy to conflate reality and fiction.

I was establishing a comparison between "psycho MC" and "bitch ass panic attack MC" and claming to find the first more interesting. How you manage to interpret that as me bashing people who suffer from panic attacks or otherwise any mental issues is beyond me.

EDIT: I edited my original post just in case. Don't want to offend anyone.
Weird that you go so far to assume such things about people from the internet, it's that what you do and you project into others? it's weirdly specific, but that's your business i guess.

You don't need to have panic attacks or self-insert yourself into a game to actually spot non-sense, it's strange you decided to specify what you don't like by referring to a real problem like that.
 
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