VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[sorco2003]

Maybe mail delivery in their part of Wollust is slower than in Vic's and we'll see it in the next chapter. The whole marketing blurb spoilers things by nature - no one buying the game for the first time knows who Bella is, so they will view her appearance in game as inevitable. It's equivalent to a movie trailer which has snippets of all the best shots spoiling all the best bits

I don't agree, if I read the descriptions of the best sellers I can't find a single spoiler or over description of a character. At least now it's explicit what many of us have been saying for a long time (almost from the beginning) Bella is the co-protagonist, and she is canon... Even in that Ocean is changing his convictions, he always said that each player has his own canon... now it would be like Henry Ford said "your LI can be anyone as long as she is Bella"....

 

[BobTheDuck]

I don't agree, if I read the descriptions of the best sellers I can't find a single spoiler or over description of a character. At least now it's explicit what many of us have been saying for a long time (almost from the beginning) Bella is the co-protagonist, and she is canon... Even in that Ocean is changing his convictions, he always said that each player has his own canon... now it would be like Henry Ford said "your LI can be anyone as long as she is Bella"....

I always saw Bella as canon, as is Nami. You can still play without being romantic with Bella, but you'll still get a haircut. You also can't avoid the wiggly . The canon is you are forced to interact with Bella because of Marla's class, but you can still ignore her romantically, that's were the alt locker room scene is fun. And LI wise Ocean's still got to please all the Sasha simps on his discord

I just see the blurb as a way of getting new players to focus on the canon part rather than this on cyclical repeat

"Sasha when?"
"Zara when?"
"Ayua when?"
"Anna when?"
"Marla when?" (there will be someone somewhere I guess? All power to them) etc

Nothing on the Steam or Epic pages really discloses anything important, and all of it is disclosed in game pretty early on other than what we've already discussed.

BTW Bella's not mentioned on the Steam page but the Epic store, i don't know why they're different - I would've judt copy/pasted, I don't think the epic gamers are more likely to be Bella fans than the steam ones

Speaking of Steam, did anyone notice Ocean has an EULA up now? It expressly mentions no one is allowed to mod the game.

The one rule of the Licence is that you can't sell, share, or modify any part of the Software unless we agree to it in advance.

Nice to see that he permits fanart in the EULA

You can create "Fanart" of Summer's Gone - Season 1 as long as you credit Summer's Gone - Season 1 and OceanAVN in a respectable manner (not hidden and clearly visible).

 

[yossa999]

Even in that Ocean is changing his convictions, he always said that each player has his own canon... now it would be like Henry Ford said "your LI can be anyone as long as she is Bella"....

Aw c'mon! You may not like Bellamites that much, but Bella is okay

Of course, there is a plenty of her in the first chapters. By the way, did you even play SG at all?
I think one gets this impression because the scenes with Bella are the most vivid, dynamic and emotional so far. But Bella is as canon as Nami, Vic or Amber.

Well, how could it be otherwise if she is a plot device that drags the MC into the world of the "book club" and their rivalry. This is an AVN, after all, with a predetermined basic plot and checkpoints that you can't avoid.

I can’t even imagine how else you can create an AVN so that the story seems to adapt to your playthrough. It should be a game like RimWorld, where you have a sandbox and a story generator that throws events and quests on you based on your playstyle.

And H.Ford said "Any Bella's hair color the player wants, as long as she's blonde."

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

I always saw Bella as canon, as is Nami.

I don't want to hear it. Vanessa's sweet lips are on the main poster, so she's canon now. You got that?

Seriously, though. This is a great poster that captures the essence and mood of the game without highlighting any particular character. I like it much better than the old one. Sorry, Sasha's fans.

As for who the co-protagonist is, I've always seen Nami in that role. This is literally Nika's and her adventure that they go through together.

BTW Bella's not mentioned on the Steam page but the Epic store, i don't know why they're different - I would've judt copy/pasted, I don't think the epic gamers are more likely to be Bella fans than the steam ones

The mention of Bella comes so suddenly and unnecessarily. But I don’t like the description on Steam either. Too much information. The good description is here. It accurately conveys the premise and reveals only what you need to know.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

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BTW Bella's not mentioned on the Steam page but the Epic store, i don't know why they're different - I would've judt copy/pasted, I don't think the epic gamers are more likely to be Bella fans than the steam ones

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Bella is an Epic LI - so she Has to be mentioned by name...

Cheers!!

 

[BobTheDuck]

Bella is an Epic LI - so she Has to be mentioned by name...

Cheers!!

Well I guess that explains the difference in the store pages in the simplest and most logically possible way

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Well I guess that explains the difference in the store pages in the simplest and most logically possible way

Daaamn. I'm so slow I didn't see the "hidden" meaning until BobTheDuck replied.

 

[Mortarion]

BTW Bella's not mentioned on the Steam page but the Epic store, i don't know why they're different - I would've judt copy/pasted, I don't think the epic gamers are more likely to be Bella fans than the steam ones

Speaking of Steam, did anyone notice Ocean has an EULA up now? It expressly mentions no one is allowed to mod the game.




Nice to see that he permits fanart in the EULA

Where is this from? I have taken a look at the steam page haven't seen anything like this.

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

When people see Bella, all their anger for delay is gone

"When the simps/Bella lovers see Bella"

since the game on steam costs 15€ you will pay the same tier on patreon or ss. it can't be cheaper

Whatcha mean it can't be cheaper? it's free right here.

Also, Steam has sales so, it'll be "cheaper to buy" sooner or later. If you plan on buying it on Steam/etc.

I always saw Bella as canon, as is Nami. You can still play without being romantic with Bella, but you'll still get a haircut. You also can't avoid the wiggly.

The canon is you are forced to interact with Bella because of Marla's class, but you can still ignore her romantically, that's were the alt locker room scene is fun.

BTW Bella's not mentioned on the Steam page but the Epic store, i don't know why they're different -

Speaking of Steam, did anyone notice Ocean has an EULA up now? It expressly mentions no one is allowed to mod the game.

I rather play without being around Bella at all. But you are "forced" to interact with/be around her. He could have added another way of getting a haircut. It shouldn't be that hard.

Wiggly? those random poses Bella/Nami love doing for no reason? shit looks so stupid and out of place (since they do these weird poses for no reason) besides getting kids excited with them.

That's the "canon" ? us being forced just cause the Dev couldn't think of other ways of doing things? If it has to do with "Marla's Class" just change it up and change the parings or add choice for the MC to say "Fuck off" and leaves. The fuck should I care about this fake school shit? I'm the Protagonist and yet feel like a dumb puppet on the Devs finger strings.

Probably didn't mention her to get me to buy it.... I joke of course. I am sure he didn't want to keep shit the same in the info department. Doesn't really matter, not everyone reads the "About this game" section anyways.

He doesn't want people using the "incest" patch lol

 

[BobTheDuck]

Where is this from? I have taken a look at the steam page haven't seen anything like this.

It's on the right hand side of the page, just under the controller support.

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"When the simps/Bella lovers see Bella"



Whatcha mean it can't be cheaper? it's free right here.

Also, Steam has sales so, it'll be "cheaper to buy" sooner or later. If you plan on buying it on Steam/etc.





I rather play without being around Bella at all. But you are "forced" to interact with/be around her. He could have added another way of getting a haircut. It shouldn't be that hard.

Wiggly? those random poses Bella/Nami love doing for no reason? shit looks so stupid and out of place (since they do these weird poses for no reason) besides getting kids excited with them.

That's the "canon" ? us being forced just cause the Dev couldn't think of other ways of doing things? If it has to do with "Marla's Class" just change it up and change the parings or add choice for the MC to say "Fuck off" and leaves. The fuck should I care about this fake school shit? I'm the Protagonist and yet feel like a dumb puppet on the Devs finger strings.

Probably didn't mention her to get me to buy it.... I joke of course. I am sure he didn't want to keep shit the same in the info department. Doesn't really matter, not everyone reads the "About this game" section anyways.

He doesn't want people using the "incest" patch lol

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Some of us will buy on steam, just so subsequent seasons are supported, and the profile is raised. If we want cheap, there's convenient zip files here. As we're here on a pirate forum, my only reason to buy it is to support the project after years of downloading it for free. I'll never join patreon, but I will support with one off purchases. I might buy on multiple platforms even.

Regards the canon, it's simply the plot Ocean has written. We can argue what he intends, but what he's published is what he's written. I don't like Nami because she is too hyper, but that's who she's meant to be. To be honest, I think I'd mainly get on with Maja or Ayua and that's about it. Ocean hasn't written many down to earth characters in this one, there's too many intense people in the room, feels like the justice leauge HQ or something; everyone's special in their own unique way. I don't play because it aligns with my preferences though, I play because the story engages me regardless of my preferences. If it was a pure game, I'd want more choice, but as something that is more a novel, fewer but (hopefully) consequential choices will mean less confused branching later on. I'd hate the game to fail because Ocean can't render basketball games with the LI cheering him on being different for each path. For some scenes, that'd be 15 times the rendering or whatever the number of LI's is now. Keeping the LI's for exclusive path scenes makes sense, and keeping the majority of the main plot fixed makes sense.

I guess th eterms of the EULA make it very clear

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Still, Vanessa is on the main poster. Bella with her screen time didn't achieve even that. Heck, even Sasha was on the old poster. So yeah, the next season Epic Bella will have to move her ass aside a little bit.

I rather play without being around Bella at all. But you are "forced" to interact with/be around her. He could have added another way of getting a haircut. It shouldn't be that hard.

I got curious.

For many here, interesting character equals likeable? Metal Panic, I'm not talking specifically about you.

But for example, some people say they can't stand Leia. Why? Most of the time, because she's a bitch. I don't understand that. I know she has a bad temper. But that's what makes the story more intriguing, more intense, more sharp. Her toxic hate-love relationship with her brother is the best thing about WiAB so far. I like Katie too, but Leia is beyond competition right now. She's awesome.

Same thing with Vanessa. I would never get involved with a woman like her... Probably. My ass is a temple though. But what potential lies in her relationship with Nika. Damn...

 

[John972]

"Marla when?" (there will be someone somewhere I guess? All power to them) etc

As the Devil's Advocate again, my vote is for Marla because she's definitely the psychotic loose canon in this game.

Without a single shred of evidence, I submit:

1. Marla ran over and killed Summer.
2. Marla tried to run over Nami (but hit Nika). Leia gave Nami an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
3. Marla tried to run over Sasha, only injuring her. Leia gave Sasha an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
4. Marla ran over and paralyzed Victoria.

She's outta control. Who will be her next target?

That's the REAL reason Ocean originally had the Nika-shoots-Marla option in Ch 1... /s

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

As the Devil's Advocate again, my vote is for Marla because she's definitely the psychotic loose canon in this game.

Without a single shred of evidence, I submit:

1. Marla ran over and killed Summer.
2. Marla tried to run over Nami (but hit Nika). Leia gave Nami an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
3. Marla tried to run over Sasha, only injuring her. Leia gave Sasha an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
4. Marla ran over and paralyzed Victoria.

She's outta control. Who will be her next target?

That's the REAL reason Ocean originally had the Nika-shoots-Marla option in Ch 1... /s

I gather you've thought long and hard to come to such a conclusion.

 

[John972]

I gather you've thought long and hard to come to such a conclusion.

..."drunk long and hard" is a more apt description

 

[Tremonia]

Those people who buy games on Steam do not use pirated sites.

And what do you think people like me are doing here? I paid all the games I played. Even the real shitty ones. I'm not a sponge.

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

..."drunk long and hard" is a more apt description

As the saying goes: ".......drunks and children........."

 

[Maviarab]

Back to the old Bella this, Bella that, Bella only LI bollocks again I see.

Ocean has said time and time again, the first chapter is heavily Bella/Nami focused. Subsequently going forward ALL LI's will get their time in the limelight.

 

[Den1mo]

Whatcha mean it can't be cheaper? it's free right here.

Also, Steam has sales so, it'll be "cheaper to buy" sooner or later. If you plan on buying it on Steam/etc.

I think you misunderstood my answer. the question was why steam release is first and not patreon so I tried to explain to him that it doesn't matter because it will have the same price on both platforms. maybe he expects that it would be cheaper on patreon

 

[BobTheDuck]

Back to the old Bella this, Bella that, Bella only LI bollocks again I see.

Ocean has said time and time again, the first chapter is heavily Bella/Nami focused. Subsequently going forward ALL LI's will get their time in the limelight.

At least the first picture on epic is Vanessa. Will absolutely love to see new players faces when Bella turns out to be blonde, with no tiara or heterochromia Strange choice to market it like this, it seems to be the only real difference on the store's blurb.

 

[JJ1960]

As the Devil's Advocate again, my vote is for Marla because she's definitely the psychotic loose canon in this game.

Without a single shred of evidence, I submit:

1. Marla ran over and killed Summer.
2. Marla tried to run over Nami (but hit Nika). Leia gave Nami an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
3. Marla tried to run over Sasha, only injuring her. Leia gave Sasha an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
4. Marla ran over and paralyzed Victoria.

She's outta control. Who will be her next target?

That's the REAL reason Ocean originally had the Nika-shoots-Marla option in Ch 1... /s

Perhaps Ocean should have named her Christine instead of Marla...

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