VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[N1ghtcrawler]

Now I am confused I thought stepsiblings and roommates are classified as the same under these AVN community rules.

What the AVN community rules? Never heard of them. I was talking about dialogs in the game without the patch and how much they make sense. I've never heard step-siblings refer to each other as roommates. I suspect they don't even call each other step-bro or step-sis on a regular basis.

Don't you mean half siblings?

Half-siblings are blood related.

you can consider them as step siblings but it will never be like that in the game.

It's already like that in the game. The roommates thing is there only to get past patreon rules. If you take it out and don't add any direct indication that they're somehow related, it's still obvious that they're siblings, just not blood-related.

 

[BobTheDuck]

But if you put yourself in his shoes, it make sense. The fans should also be interested in Ocean's success. If he fails, the game will be abandoned and no one wants that.

Understanding this would require acceptance of delayed gratification and altruism, which dare I say is are not considered positive traits in this thread, or this whole pirate website.

"Whne seggs?"
"Wneh new cumtent/season 2?"
"Mwilker!!!!" (when what is really desired by the person posting is a milking table)

Etc.

You are 100% right - Ocean needs to be successful to get through 32 chapters of content. Why on earth do I need to mircomanage that or have an opinion on 10 days when I can buy it on steam for less than a decent bottle of wine? I'll just play the game when it drops on steam and enjoy it without continuity errors (fingers crossed) for the first time in 3 years since the rework started. Timezones aside, sometime tomorrow I can probably download it. The politics of being a true pirate - well, I spend more on coffee in a week than I will on the game.

I'm pretty sure any of Ocean's patrons who intend to support 32 chapters of work are laughing at the idea that 10 days extra wait will break their stride. Success for this and for WiaB means the whingers can keep pirating it. It seems really counter intuitive to want a game they like (and can't tear themselves away from) to fail.

Btw what are they changing about amber's therapy sessions? Just saw that on patreon.

Amber is now wearing a non-see through top whereas before she wasn't wearing a bra, and the top was seethrough.
Amber keeps a more professional appreach, not acting like a horny milf who can't stop touching anything male.

I'm guessing it is just those renders are replaced with new ones, and the script stays the same.

What the AVN community rules? Never heard of them. I was talking about dialogs in the game without the patch and how much they make sense. I've never heard step-siblings refer to each other as roommates. I suspect they don't even call each other step-bro or step-sis on a regular basis.

Half-siblings are blood related.

It's already like that in the game. The roommates thing is there only to get past patreon rules. If you take it out and don't add any direct indication that they're somehow related, it's still obvious that they're siblings, just not blood-related.

To be fair, if you just read the dialogue, it's confusing even if you ignore the nouns and insert whatever - it swaps between confirming and denying; the words are ambigious at best. If you read between the lines and follow the plot, it's not ambigious.

 

[Razrback16]

Btw what are they changing about amber's therapy sessions? Just saw that on patreon.

Outfit - removing the transparent top, and adjusted things so she isn't as touchy (keeps a more appropriate distance between the patient and herself). The replacement outfit is pretty sexy, too, but isn't see-thru.
Unsure if any dialogue was adjusted, but I wouldn't be shocked if it is, slightly - I expect that for much of the game as Ocean no doubt went through the whole thing with a fine-tooth comb to get everything exactly as he wants it to setup Season 2 as this will be the last time he can really adjust it. Once it hits Steam it becomes more difficult to make changes.

 

[LordPorno]

What the AVN community rules? Never heard of them. I was talking about dialogs in the game without the patch and how much they make sense. I've never heard step-siblings refer to each other as roommates. I suspect they don't even call each other step-bro or step-sis on a regular basis.

Half-siblings are blood related.

It's already like that in the game. The roommates thing is there only to get past patreon rules. If you take it out and don't add any direct indication that they're somehow related, it's still obvious that they're siblings, just not blood-related.

Nah, at some point in the AVN one character asked Nika why Nami is a redhead and his answer was basically "I don't know". How could he possibly not know why she is redhead when they aren't actual siblings? If they are step siblings why he didn't just clarified that they are actually not related and that's why she has red hair and he doesn't? Because they are real siblings.

Only dense people believe they arent blood related as if that wasnt the standard way many AVN use to avoid getting banned from Patreon or Steam.

 

[zack1419]

Keep supporting him, and receive the release after 7 days. kkkkkkkkkkkk

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an idiot and his money are soon parted

 

[Malicre]

Outfit - removing the transparent top, and adjusted things so she isn't as touchy (keeps a more appropriate distance between the patient and herself). The replacement outfit is pretty sexy, too, but isn't see-thru.
Unsure if any dialogue was adjusted, but I wouldn't be shocked if it is, slightly - I expect that for much of the game as Ocean no doubt went through the whole thing with a fine-tooth comb to get everything exactly as he wants it to setup Season 2 as this will be the last time he can really adjust it. Once it hits Steam it becomes more difficult to make changes.

Why the change? Was it for something specific that steam required? If so i'm kinda curious if the amber route will be drastically worse going forward if we are already seeing some kind of censorship happening with her. Is this going to turn into a situation like other games we're the dev wants to monetize the game more but in doing so has to remove a lot of the "fun" content? Maybe Amber gets cut completely because of the relationship dynamic?

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Why the change? Was it for something specific that steam required? If so i'm kinda curious if the amber route will be drastically worse going forward if we are already seeing some kind of censorship happening with her. Is this going to turn into a situation like other games we're the dev wants to monetize the game more but in doing so has to remove a lot of the "fun" content? Maybe Amber gets cut completely because of the relationship dynamic?

Steam version is already censored.

The Patreon version won't be.

Season 2 will be normal with no censoring on both platforms.

They did the censoring (or tried to) so they could sell the game in markets where adult games are not allowed, Germany (and some others), it didn't work out so well. Even though it's being sold on EPIC which doesn't allow adult content at all.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Steam version is already censored.

The Patreon version won't be.

Season 2 will be normal with no censoring on both platforms.

They did the censoring (or tried to) so they could sell the game in markets where adult games are not allowed, Germany (and some others), it didn't work out so well. Even though it's being sold on EPIC which doesn't allow adult content at all.

If I understood the devlogs correctly, the changes to Amber are in both versions. The only 'uncensored' content in the patreon version is only Nami topless in the lake, everything else (according to the devlogs) is the same.

The changes to Amber were because her initial meeting with Nika didn't show her professional side, Ocean realised he'd written her character poorly in that scene - for her to be dressed like that for a whole day, dealing with people like Stefan who can afford her normal rates would be strange - not every client of a psych will be pleasant to deal with, and that would be asking for trouble. SO the change was for a more real approach, without abandoning her sexiness. The big change is not the clothing but her behaviour.

She's still a LI as far as we know, so there will be eventual lewds, she probably still has the piercings, but her inner wildchild is just simmering unseen for now.

 

[John972]

Why the change? Was it for something specific that steam required? If so i'm kinda curious if the amber route will be drastically worse going forward if we are already seeing some kind of censorship happening with her. Is this going to turn into a situation like other games we're the dev wants to monetize the game more but in doing so has to remove a lot of the "fun" content? Maybe Amber gets cut completely because of the relationship dynamic?

The change will make any developing relationship between Amber and Nika more natural.

At it was, the old renders made Amber look flirtatious with Nika straight out of the blocks - wearing a mildly transparent top and cuddling her new patient.

It makes more sense if the relationship develops organically within the bounds of professional ethics, i.e. Amber slowly develops feelings for Nika rather than her immediately cougaring him during initial therapy sessions.

Several fans already pointed out Amber's behaviour in the original version and questioned if she was that unprofessional with all her other patients.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Nah, at some point in the AVN one character asked Nika why Nami is a redhead and his answer was basically "I don't know". How could he possibly not know why she is redhead when they aren't actual siblings? If they are step siblings why he didn't just clarified that they are actually not related and that's why she has red hair and he doesn't? Because they are real siblings.

Only dense people believe they arent blood related as if that wasnt the standard way many AVN use to avoid getting banned from Patreon or Steam.

That's not what he said. He said "Yeah, no idea how she got to be a Cheeto." It means "I've heard this question a million times already, can you all please stop". Basically what he said to Summer asking him the same question. His first reply was addressed to Zara. Immediately after, there was the following exchange: "What happened to your mother?", "She died in a car accident.", "And Namis?", "Apparently the same."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but It doesn't matter to Patreon if they're blood related or not. Any unambiguous sibling connection between characters who begin a romantic relationship will result in a ban on the platform.

To be fair, if you just read the dialogue, it's confusing even if you ignore the nouns and insert whatever - it swaps between confirming and denying; the words are ambigious at best. If you read between the lines and follow the plot, it's not ambigious.

At first with such suggestive questions like "who's older, you or Nami?" and "why is she red?" yes, but at the end of chapter 5 it becomes as obvious as possible. I find it more clever. But there's probably still a risk that this could lead to a ban on Patreon and the roommate thing is simply a more safe approach.

Several fans already pointed out Amber's behaviour in the original version and questioned if she was that unprofessional with all her other patients.

Right. I even assumed that it was Amber flirting with Stefan and not the other way around.

 

[AlexFXR]

But if you put yourself in his shoes, it make sense. The fans should also be interested in Ocean's success. If he fails, the game will be abandoned and no one wants that.

This is absolutely not true, everyone on Patreon who gives money to developers is selfish. They believe that since they pay money, the game belongs to them. And they also don’t care about Steam and they all want to get the game first on Patreon. Do you want to know how I know this? So I’m one of them, and I’ve never heard anyone say... screw us, release the game on Steam first, they need it more.

 

[bardock8114]

But if you put yourself in his shoes, it make sense. The fans should also be interested in Ocean's success. If he fails, the game will be abandoned and no one wants that.

If people did not support him on patreon that it woud be not even possible. At least release it at the same time for higher tiers... So 15 Euro on steam an 20 euro patreons.

 

[Doomyk]

If people did not support him on patreon that it woud be not even possible. At least release it at the same time for higher tiers... So 15 Euro on steam an 20 euro patreons.

As far as I remember, Steam requires that the price be the same on other sites.

 

[Elduriel]

As far as I remember, Steam requires that the price be the same on other sites.

no, the dev can sell the game for cheaper on other marketplaces, they just can't sell steam keys for cheaper on other marketplaces

 

[Adhdclassic]

Nah, at some point in the AVN one character asked Nika why Nami is a redhead and his answer was basically "I don't know". How could he possibly not know why she is redhead when they aren't actual siblings? If they are step siblings why he didn't just clarified that they are actually not related and that's why she has red hair and he doesn't? Because they are real siblings.

Only dense people believe they arent blood related as if that wasnt the standard way many AVN use to avoid getting banned from Patreon or Steam.

If his parents died when he was three how would he know. He said he doesnt even remember them and Nami is a yr older than him. So how would he know why she has red hair. Now that you say this makes me wonder have we seen a redhead in WIAB. Since we know alot of the parents are from there.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

If people did not support him on patreon that it woud be not even possible. At least release it at the same time for higher tiers... So 15 Euro on steam an 20 euro patreons.

I think Ocean made the right call - release on Steam first versus a simultaneous release on Patreon/SS.

This is a business decision, not a decision to harm his support base, and I am part of that support base.

Once it's released on Patreon/SS - someone will get it uploaded on F95 and then go to Steam and taunt those who are paying for something they can take 'for free' on F95.

There are already some trolls on this thread who have boasted that they will do this or something like it.

I'd rather this approach (Steam first then a week delay for Patreon/SS tier release schedule) than Ocean taking the time to add a unique online verification requirement to each install to prevent anyone from using their copy of SG in more than one place.

IMO, his time is better spent on developing season 2 content versus getting into single use tech for software.

Cheers!!

 

[MIkedante]

Amber session short cinematic

 

[Don Sucio]

Keep supporting him, and receive the release after 7 days. kkkkkkkkkkkk

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Yeah not problem for me, i´m not a Patreon supporter but i´m going to buy it there (and maybe if i like season 1 even maintain the subscription) and if i have been able to resist the temptation to play the 5.0 beta and wait sooo much time for the final season 1 i can wait some weeks more.

 

[Winterstale]

I think Ocean made the right call - release on Steam first versus a simultaneous release on Patreon/SS.

This is a business decision, not a decision to harm his support base, and I am part of that support base.

Once it's released on Patreon/SS - someone will get it uploaded on F95 and then go to Steam and taunt those who are paying for something they can take 'for free' on F95.

There are already some trolls on this thread who have boasted that they will do this or something like it.

I'd rather this approach (Steam first then a week delay for Patreon/SS tier release schedule) than Ocean taking the time to add a unique online verification requirement to each install to prevent anyone from using their copy of SG in more than one place.

IMO, his time is better spent on developing season 2 content versus getting into single use tech for software.

Cheers!!

Absolutely, I'm with you on that one. Releasing the game on Steam first gives the dev a chance to ride the wave of excitement that comes with launching on a widely-used platform. It's a smart move to kickstart sales, bringing in income and covering the initial costs of development.

 

[codex35]

what if someone leak steam version ? is this possible ?