sageproduct

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Let me assure you that neither I nor my buddies on this site are in any way affiliated with that anonymous group of excuse recipients you refer as "we." So I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm not discussing it.

Advice for advice. Post all this on the Ocean's Discord, there is a suggestions channel.
Personally, I see only good in careful planning of work, strict release schedules and time/cost estimates. Maybe Ocean just doesn't know about it, and you will open his eyes and "we" will all benefit from it.
may i be your buddy on this site if i like your posts enough? plzplz :)
 
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shadow22222

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Is "SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip" not the main file? I have no idea but you can;t extract it with the regular unzip utility on Arch Linux at least.

Path = SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
Type = zip
Physical Size = 10361821024
64-bit = +
Characteristics = Zip64

I guess the unzip command can't touch a zip64 file, I've just never come across it before.

$ unzip SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
Archive: SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
warning [SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip]: 6066496255 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile
(attempting to process anyway)
error [SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip]: start of central directory not found;
zipfile corrupt.
(please check that you have transferred or created the zipfile in the
appropriate BINARY mode and that you have compiled UnZip properly)

Strange you say the Ubuntu one works, because I have the exact same version on Arch and it shits itself. Humm.
same problem here on nobara linux, even when i manage to extract the file using command line ''7za x SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip" the game doesn't start
 

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Is this story going to be reworked or changed? I don't know if it was here or his other game the I see something might have to be changed due to Patreon. Just asking as I have a new MacBook and want to play the game again but there is no need if it's going to change. Appreciate anyone that could let me know!
 

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Is this story going to be reworked or changed? I don't know if it was here or his other game the I see something might have to be changed due to Patreon. Just asking as I have a new MacBook and want to play the game again but there is no need if it's going to change. Appreciate anyone that could let me know!
No. SG is done with the reworks. WiaB will gave a change with the next update, how much and what the change will be exactly is something that the thread has talked for months now.
 

yossa999

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Is this story going to be reworked or changed? I don't know if it was here or his other game the I see something might have to be changed due to Patreon. Just asking as I have a new MacBook and want to play the game again but there is no need if it's going to change. Appreciate anyone that could let me know!
In short - no one knows, but it has happened before.

My guess is that nothing else will change in the first season which is already released on Steam. Although there may be retcons in the future chapters, like in the fifth chapter we see that Noji and Amber have known each other for a long time, although earlier in front of the MC they pretended to see each other for the first time. And in the new chapters that will come out further, there may well be changes until the new season comes out on Steam.
 

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Is this story going to be reworked or changed? I don't know if it was here or his other game the I see something might have to be changed due to Patreon. Just asking as I have a new MacBook and want to play the game again but there is no need if it's going to change. Appreciate anyone that could let me know!
Well you already have 2 replies. A no and a maybe. So let me add a resounding YES. Yes it will. You can count on that. Bet your firstborn on it. Put up the house and all your savings. There is no safer bet. It is as sure as the sun setting today and rising once again tomorrow. A sudden extinction of mankind is more likely than SG not suffering further changes and retcons down the line.

We know this by the pattern of development of both of the dev's games. So you either go ahead and accept that now and play it or wait x years for the final update of SG to come out.
 

yossa999

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Well you already have 2 replies. A no and a maybe. So let me add a resounding YES. Yes it will. You can count on that. Bet your firstborn on it. Put up the house and all your savings. There is no safer bet. It is as sure as the sun setting today and rising once again tomorrow. A sudden extinction of mankind is more likely than SG not suffering further changes and retcons down the line.

We know this by the pattern of development of both of the dev's games. So you either go ahead and accept that now and play it or wait x years for the final update of SG to come out.
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While I do appreciate these replies, you keep thinking of SG as a piece of software, going through versions and iterations until it reaches it's final form or support just ends in favor of the new thing and it becomes a legacy tool.

I look at it as a story. That you should build from the ground up like a house. You start with the foundations and then add to it. Floor by floor. You don't suddenly wake up and decide to change the steel mesh for the reinforced concrete and tear it all down to build it again. And then 5 years later decide to overhaul the plumbing, so down the house goes again to build it back up a 3rd time.

Then you notice the floors aren't leveled. Mold is forming around the window corners. The colors on the walls don't quite match and the electrical wiring is so fucked up the board keeps blowing up whenever you turn on the washer and the microwave at the same time... Like I told you before. That's not storytelling. Or a proper house. It's just a shitshow :LOL:
 

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Well you already have 2 replies. A no and a maybe. So let me add a resounding YES. Yes it will. You can count on that. Bet your firstborn on it. Put up the house and all your savings. There is no safer bet. It is as sure as the sun setting today and rising once again tomorrow. A sudden extinction of mankind is more likely than SG not suffering further changes and retcons down the line.

We know this by the pattern of development of both of the dev's games. So you either go ahead and accept that now and play it or wait x years for the final update of SG to come out.
While I can't say that you don't have reason to think so, you very much do, I really hope Ocean moves on. Please smoothing sailing from here on out. I really like but if he keeping add and cutting stuff it will kill the game for me. So maybe I am being naive, but I am hoping for the best.
 

yossa999

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While I do appreciate these replies, you keep thinking of SG as a piece of software, going through versions and iterations until it reaches it's final form or support just ends in favor of the new thing and it becomes a legacy tool.

I look at it as a story. That you should build from the ground up like a house. You start with the foundations and then add to it. Floor by floor. You don't suddenly wake up and decide to change the steel mesh for the reinforced concrete and tear it all down to build it again. And then 5 years later decide to overhaul the plumbing, so down the house goes again to build it back up a 3rd time.

Then you notice the floors aren't leveled. Mold is forming around the window corners. The colors on the walls don't quite match and the electrical wiring is so fucked up the board keeps blowing up whenever you turn on the washer and the microwave at the same time... Like I told you before. That's not storytelling. Or a proper house. It's just a shitshow :LOL:
It's funny because the metaphor of approaching software design as an architectural problem of building a house has been the dominant one in software development for a long time. It's only recently that it's been rethought and revised, including in a book which cover I posted as a joke. It explores exactly why this approach doesn't work in software development. Kent Beck is extreme, questionable and bearded, but his research on this topic gave a push for so-called "agile" approach in software development.

However, this has little to do with Ocean's approach, since one of the core practices of the agile is iterative development; iterations should be fairly short and end with releases that integrate into the product the bits of the functionality developed during the iteration. :KEK:

Returning to AVN, now three of the rather popular AVNs that I am following are in the process of reworking the initial chapters. These AVN developers are complete incompetents. :cautious:

What can I say, wander around the bazaar, look at the prices, maybe you will find something cheaper and better than Ocean's. :KEK:
 
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It's funny because the metaphor of approaching software design as an architectural problem of building a house has been the dominant one in software development for a long time. It's only recently that it's been rethought and revised, including in a book which cover I posted as a joke. It explores exactly why this approach doesn't work in software development. Kent Beck is extreme, questionable and bearded, but his research on this topic gave a push for so-called "agile" approach in software development.

However, this has little to do with Ocean's approach, since one of the core practices of the agile is iterative development; iterations should be fairly short and end with releases that integrate into the product the bits of the functionality developed during the iteration. :KEK:

Returning to AVN, now three of the rather popular AVNs that I am following are in the process of reworking the initial chapters. These AVN developers are complete incompetents. :cautious:

What can I say, wander around the bazaar, look at the prices, maybe you will find something cheaper and better than Ocean's. :KEK:
Ocean follows WATERFALL approach instead of AGILE or DEVOPS. Hence the name :LOL:.
 
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