Penfold Mole

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I know Nami fans gonna kill me but I think she might be somehow involved in her disappearance/accident, she introduced Summer to MC and instantly regretted on the second slide, and we can see it happening to Bella too bcuz even on Nami's route you'll interact with Bella(similar to acting lessons).
I maybe wrong but hey its a free nation(please go easy on me)
Don't worry, you're not the first one to think so. I remember someone speculating that Nami not just has a dark side, but she might actually be a psycho and murdered Summer. :ROFLMAO:
 
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The black smoke cloud is responsible for Nika's limp dick! :eek:

Is Nami a god? :unsure:
The black smoke - it itself is a big flying limp dick! That's why men feel such horror when they see it.

And Nami, yes, is the Divine Virgin, but she was like that from the very beginning of the game, without any conspiracy theories!
 
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That's a big unknown at this point, but definitely possible.

There are a series in incidents alluded too from Nika's past - Summer's disappearance, the "violent incident," and whatever Nami did that she and Nika agreed never to reveal. We just don't know how all these incidents fit together or if they're even related.

Having said that, I doubt Nika would be close to Nami if he knew she was directly involved in Summer's disappearance, given the psychological toll it's had on him.

Hell, for all we know, Summer's disappearance is inspired by MH370, and a similar fate befell Summer and her parents during their holiday.
im not saying its all her fault, but i do think that at some point, Summer did something to Nika. Or at least played a part in how things turned out. Im not saying Nami’s completely innocent either, but after learning about Nika’s past, i dont think Summer’s totally blameless
 
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John972

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Her intention was obvious:



Maybe he doesn't know. Seriously though I highly doubt that Nami is capable of doing something like that.


Wasn't Nika the one who did something? Especially with him being charged at some point and now mysteriously having a clean record.
Don't worry, you're not the first one to think so. I remember someone speculating that Nami not just has a dark side, but she might actually be a psycho and murdered Summer. :ROFLMAO:
im not saying its all her fault, but i do think that at some point, Summer did something to Nika. Or at least played a part in how things turned out. Im not saying Nami’s completely innocent either, but after learning about Nika’s past, i dont think Summer’s totally blameless
Well, the dev has given a lot of pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, but not enough to know how they fit together.

1. Nami was jealous of Summer's relationship with Nika because she had (and still has) a crush on Nika.

2. Summer disappeared (and what the fuck does that even mean? We just don't have the context. Besides, if it was a bona fide disappearance, you'd think Nika, in his current mental state, would be on the internet every other day searching for updates. Yet he only thinks of that option part way through S1. Having said that, this is Wollust logic we're talking about).

3. Nami flirted with guys throughout High School (likely an attempt to make Nika jealous), leading Nika to respond, often with violence, against guys chasing Nami/trying to get in her pants.

4. Something happened between Nami and Nika, which they agreed never to talk about. As a result of it, Nika blames Nami for making him the way he currently is.

5. Nika was hospitalised with collapsed lungs after the " violent incident."

6. Nika did something that was a criminal offense, but was never convicted for.

7. Nika did still attend High School after Summer's disappearance, but something happened to make him (presumably) drop out of school and stay at home for a couple of years (Wollust logic possibly at work again - if Nika didn't complete High School, how the fuck is he getting into college on anything short of a basketball scholarship?).

So, we don't know if or how 1., 4., 5., and 6. relate to 2. - Summer's disappearance.

Maybe 1., 3. to 7. all relate to things that happened well after Summer's disappearance.
 

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im not saying its all her fault, but i do think that at some point, Summer did something to Nika. Or at least played a part in how things turned out. Im not saying Nami’s completely innocent either, but after learning about Nika’s past, i dont think Summer’s totally blameless
Well, maybe it wasn't something Summer did herself, but something her parents did. The dev made it obvious in the flashbacks that Summer's family did not approve of Nika. Could the cabin incident be the straw that broke the camel's back?

Anyway, I half suspect that Ocean is going to resolve all this with some weird shit no one's even considered yet. ;):)
 

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It's wild that years later people still come here to complain about the game, If you don't like it and only want sex scenes then why are you here moaning? it seems like the biggest waste of time to go to threads of games you don't like to complain. Go to the games you like and play them, sure it's taking a while to get updates but that's nothing new with this game or others, Especially quality ones.
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It's wild that years later people still come here to complain about the game, If you don't like it and only want sex scenes then why are you here moaning? it seems like the biggest waste of time to go to threads of games you don't like to complain. Go to the games you like and play them, sure it's taking a while to get updates but that's nothing new with this game or others, Especially quality ones.
Well, I have a "friend" who's not happy with this AVN because they're jealous that fictional Nika's flaccid dick is bigger than their own erect dick. What? Wait! Trust me, bro, it really is a friend. I'm not talking about myself, I swear! /s
 
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Look, I've been reading the same thing for years in this thread. Asexual, bla-bla-bla... ED bla-bla-bla... Can't get a boner, bla-bla-bla
I can't understand, are you all playing with your eyes closed or are you fast-forwarding in a search of a lewd scene?

Because if not, how can you not notice that the MC definitely attracted for the chosen LI. Why would an asexual MC be drawn to kissing Bella or Nami, caressing Vic or groping Mila in different places?

Why is he asexual if he complains to Nami that he is attracted to Bella, regrets that he can’t give her now what she wants (wild dicking) and actually goes to therapy with Amber because he wants to change his life, including the sexual side of it.

ED - I am not a certified urologist, like it has suddenly turned out, the other second member of this thread. And fortunately not a patient, so I am not familiar with the correct terminology. In my simpletonish understanding, impotence is something permanent, a physical disorder, practically incurable.

Whereas ED is more like an occasional failure, like when you're so drunk you're about to fall over and lie there like a plank. Or some kind of a mental block, like when you feel so anxious that an erection is the last think you would care about in this state. This is curable and fixable, you just need to eliminate the interfering causes - for example, sober up or get rid of strong anxiety.

Again, it has been said a hundred times that MC's problem is to learn to feel arousal not only with Summer (with her everything was fine down there, according to him) but also with other girls. And it is clear that he will get there sooner or later. And the devlogs of S2CH1 hint that it will more likely be sooner. So what is the point of this constant repetition of "he doesn't have a boner" every day while S2CH1 is being developed? Is this some kind of mantra to get through the day?
IMO bella, nami, mila, vic and any other woman nika has encountered in college would put summer to shame if we are judgeing her looks in her teens .and if we are judgeing the time it takes to make one chapter we will be waiting for several years to come to even see summer if at all. and if nika can't get a boner with groping milas ass or having bella naked in his bed and nami naked in her bed and groping vic breast i would have to say he likes men because how can a strait man not get a boner with doing all that to a sexy beautiful woman it's pretty suspect.;):p
 
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i do think that at some point, Summer did something to Nika
I doubt it. Nika hurting Summer (not on purpose) would be more plausible.

Nami was jealous of Summer's relationship with Nika because she had (and still has) a crush on Nika.
I thought what bothered her was the fact that she "lost" her friends with both Nika and Summer spending more time with each other and less with Nami, "ditching her" as she put it.

Could the cabin incident be the straw that broke the camel's back?
I don't believe anything bad happened at the cabin 'cause that officer drove them home and not to a hospital if any of them was injured or anything like that.

IMO bella, nami, mila, vic and any other woman nika has encountered in college would put summer to shame if we are judgeing her looks in her teens
I bet it wouldn't matter to Nika and if she returned in Season 2 chapter 1 for example, he wouldn't think about them at all anymore.
 

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I doubt it. Nika hurting Summer (not on purpose) would be more plausible.


I thought what bothered her was the fact that she "lost" her friends with both Nika and Summer spending more time with each other and less with Nami, "ditching her" as she put it.


I don't believe anything bad happened at the cabin 'cause that officer drove them home and not to a hospital if any of them was injured or anything like that.


I bet it wouldn't matter to Nika and if she returned in Season 2 chapter 1 for example, he wouldn't think about them at all anymore.
There is that flashback sequence where Nika is interacting with Summer in class and Nami sits behind them, looking at Nika like the sky had just fallen in. There are other hints of her jealousy as well.

Saying the cabin accident was "the straw that broke the camel's back" with Summer's parents isn't necessarily about anything bad happening at the cabin. Rather, Summer being brought home late by the police after being at the cabin with Nika might have been the last straw for Summer's parents. Summer and her family were leaving on holiday the following day. What the flashback doesn't tell us is how Summer's parents reacted while she was at the cabin into the night, especially if they had no idea where she was. These are all things we just don't know yet.
 

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There is that flashback sequence where Nika is interacting with Summer in class and Nami sits behind them, looking at Nika like the sky had just fallen in. There are other hints of her jealousy as well.
I didn't see Nami being interested in Nika like that in any of the flashbacks. To me it looks like she thought she was loosing her friends. She introduced Summer to Nika and then they started spending more and more time with each other and less time with Nami.

What the flashback doesn't tell us is how Summer's parents reacted while she was at the cabin into the night, especially if they had no idea where she was.
Maybe it was Summer's father who caused Nika to end up in the hospital.
 
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There is that flashback sequence where Nika is interacting with Summer in class and Nami sits behind them, looking at Nika like the sky had just fallen in. There are other hints of her jealousy as well.

Saying the cabin accident was "the straw that broke the camel's back" with Summer's parents isn't necessarily about anything bad happening at the cabin. Rather, Summer being brought home late by the police after being at the cabin with Nika might have been the last straw for Summer's parents. Summer and her family were leaving on holiday the following day. What the flashback doesn't tell us is how Summer's parents reacted while she was at the cabin into the night, especially if they had no idea where she was. These are all things we just don't know yet.
As someone pointed out to me a while ago (was it you maybe?) there's no guarantee Nika's dream matches the events of reality. He might not be reliving the evens, his mind could be plastering more digestible fantasies over the disturbing memories like a bandaid.

From what Nika says to Amber and Nami we can deduce that there was an officer, but the dream itself and his flashbacks aren't reliable.

So an idea - Nika and Summer disappeared, Nami alerted Officer Larverne, Larverne took them back to Summer's parent, Summer's parents filed charges against Nika for kidnapping or something. Then the whole Summer clan (whatever their family name is) disappeared. ie the parents are gone too (otherwise it would be the easiest thing for Elsa to know what happened, no melancholy photos on aurora about the past, Nia could find out what happened to her only friend etc).

The violent incident happens after NIka gets reckless from losing Summer, which means the violent incident could be as a result of Nami, and the way she was teasing boys to get Nika's attention. All that happened after SUmmer disappeared, and that's when Nika stopped playing basketball because fights made him feel alive. So the violent incident happens after his violent period. Maybe he gets charged then instead? But he gets hospitalised. So initially, he's not depressed so much as violent from unhappiness. The depression comes after being hospitalised, after whatever Nami did - this perios he talks Amber about anyway, so we can kind of extrapolate.

This would link in with the idea that NIka says Nami is the reason he is the way he is.

As far as Summer - the fact that Nia doesn't know what happened to Summer either shows that no one knows, which further suggests Summer's parents aren't around to answer questions.

Sorry, this is poorly explained, and circular, but you get the ideas I hope :coffee::)
 

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As someone pointed out to me a while ago (was it you maybe?) there's no guarantee Nika's dream matches the events of reality. He might not be reliving the evens, his mind could be plastering more digestible fantasies over the disturbing memories like a bandaid.

From what Nika says to Amber and Nami we can deduce that there was an officer, but the dream itself and his flashbacks aren't reliable.

So an idea - Nika and Summer disappeared, Nami alerted Officer Larverne, Larverne took them back to Summer's parent, Summer's parents filed charges against Nika for kidnapping or something. Then the whole Summer clan (whatever their family name is) disappeared. ie the parents are gone too (otherwise it would be the easiest thing for Elsa to know what happened, no melancholy photos on aurora about the past, Nia could find out what happened to her only friend etc).

The violent incident happens after NIka gets reckless from losing Summer, which means the violent incident could be as a result of Nami, and the way she was teasing boys to get Nika's attention. All that happened after SUmmer disappeared, and that's when Nika stopped playing basketball because fights made him feel alive. So the violent incident happens after his violent period. Maybe he gets charged then instead? But he gets hospitalised. So initially, he's not depressed so much as violent from unhappiness. The depression comes after being hospitalised, after whatever Nami did - this perios he talks Amber about anyway, so we can kind of extrapolate.

This would link in with the idea that NIka says Nami is the reason he is the way he is.

As far as Summer - the fact that Nia doesn't know what happened to Summer either shows that no one knows, which further suggests Summer's parents aren't around to answer questions.

Sorry, this is poorly explained, and circular, but you get the ideas I hope :coffee::)
Soooo, Summers family brought up charges and than all got killed by leia who protects Nika and Nami? :p

Are we sure that Elsa doesnt know what happened?
 

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I didn't see Nami being interested in Nika like that in any of the flashbacks. To me it looks like she thought she was loosing her friends. She introduced Summer to Nika and then they started spending more and more time with each other and less time with Nami.


Maybe it was Summer's father who caused Nika to end up in the hospital.
As someone pointed out to me a while ago (was it you maybe?) there's no guarantee Nika's dream matches the events of reality. He might not be reliving the evens, his mind could be plastering more digestible fantasies over the disturbing memories like a bandaid.

From what Nika says to Amber and Nami we can deduce that there was an officer, but the dream itself and his flashbacks aren't reliable.

So an idea - Nika and Summer disappeared, Nami alerted Officer Larverne, Larverne took them back to Summer's parent, Summer's parents filed charges against Nika for kidnapping or something. Then the whole Summer clan (whatever their family name is) disappeared. ie the parents are gone too (otherwise it would be the easiest thing for Elsa to know what happened, no melancholy photos on aurora about the past, Nia could find out what happened to her only friend etc).

The violent incident happens after NIka gets reckless from losing Summer, which means the violent incident could be as a result of Nami, and the way she was teasing boys to get Nika's attention. All that happened after SUmmer disappeared, and that's when Nika stopped playing basketball because fights made him feel alive. So the violent incident happens after his violent period. Maybe he gets charged then instead? But he gets hospitalised. So initially, he's not depressed so much as violent from unhappiness. The depression comes after being hospitalised, after whatever Nami did - this perios he talks Amber about anyway, so we can kind of extrapolate.

This would link in with the idea that NIka says Nami is the reason he is the way he is.

As far as Summer - the fact that Nia doesn't know what happened to Summer either shows that no one knows, which further suggests Summer's parents aren't around to answer questions.

Sorry, this is poorly explained, and circular, but you get the ideas I hope :coffee::)
If you go back to the classroom scene, I think it's instructive that Nami only looks at Nika during Summer/Nika's interactions. She never once glances at Summer. My memory is hazy, but I think there's a flashback conversation between Summer and Nika where Summer tells Nika something to the effect that Nami has pulled back from her friendship with Summer. That kinda suggests jealousy.

I'm still kinda on the fence at the moment as to what incidents are related to others. The violent incident could be related to Summer's "disappearance," but maybe it's not. I think the possibility of an altercation between Nika and Summer's father has been brought up before. I lean more to the violent incident happening after Summer's disappearance.

With Nika's dream, it features fucking spiders (i.e. literally fucking spiders) and spooky glowing flowers. Add to that we have the whole six-hour conundrum, so it's possible Nika's dream doesn't fully reflect reality, making him an unreliable narrator.

Admittedly, we are relying on not too much Wollust logic being used to tie up all these events.

Pl@y3r, your post had me thinking that maybe Nami was jealous of Nika because she had a big crush on Summer, and wanted nothing more than to have some hot lesbian sex one day :) After Summer's disappearance, Nami transferred her affection onto the one person who was linked to Summer - making Nika a surrogate for Nami's lost love :p ;)
 

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If you go back to the classroom scene, I think it's instructive that Nami only looks at Nika during Summer/Nika's interactions. She never once glances at Summer. My memory is hazy, but I think there's a flashback conversation between Summer and Nika where Summer tells Nika something to the effect that Nami has pulled back from her friendship with Summer. That kinda suggests jealousy.

I'm still kinda on the fence at the moment as to what incidents are related to others. The violent incident could be related to Summer's "disappearance," but maybe it's not. I think the possibility of an altercation between Nika and Summer's father has been brought up before. I lean more to the violent incident happening after Summer's disappearance.

With Nika's dream, it features fucking spiders (i.e. literally fucking spiders) and spooky glowing flowers. Add to that we have the whole six-hour conundrum, so it's possible Nika's dream doesn't fully reflect reality, making him an unreliable narrator.

Admittedly, we are relying on not too much Wollust logic being used to tie up all these events.

Pl@y3r, your post had me thinking that maybe Nami was jealous of Nika because she had a big crush on Summer, and wanted nothing more than to have some hot lesbian sex one day :) After Summer's disappearance, Nami transferred her affection onto the one person who was linked to Summer - making Nika a surrogate for Nami's lost love :p ;)
The flashback you're thinking of is the cabin scene at the start from memory. It's triggered because Nika lent Nami his gloves I think.

The reason I think the violent incident is later than the cabin is because:
- Summer disappears
- Nika's bad boy at school phase is after Summer had 'left', he confirms that with Amber opaquely, and Nia mentions it a little - Nika was back at school the day after Summer was missing and Nia noticed the difference.
- Nika doesn't finish school (if I remember correctly), because of recovering from the violent incident
- Start of college

So my guess is that in Nika's bad boy stage, as he describes to Amber, he and Nami are like Mickey and Mallory in Natural Born Killers. Well, not that extreme, but enough that Nika's nihilism ends up getting him into a fight he loses badly.

So the charge could still be from Summer's parents, over the cabin incident, and NIka being almost beaten to death over something he and Nami were doing seems pretty logical. The charge over the violent incident seems unlikely as Nika's the one who nearly died.

But Wollust logic? Who knows. Gefritzel needs an appearance.
 

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there's no guarantee Nika's dream matches the events of reality. He might not be reliving the evens, his mind could be plastering more digestible fantasies over the disturbing memories like a bandaid.

From what Nika says to Amber and Nami we can deduce that there was an officer, but the dream itself and his flashbacks aren't reliable.
If Nika's dreams and flashbacks/memories aren't reliable then whatever he tells Amber during therapy isn't either and "fixing" Nika will be harder than anticipated.

Pl@y3r, your post had me thinking that maybe Nami was jealous of Nika because she had a big crush on Summer, and wanted nothing more than to have some hot lesbian sex one day
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