VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Gladheim]

Dev already said that Sasha isn't Summer.

Dude...
look I doubt she is, although there are behaviours in Sasha that are quite suspicious, glances, how she reacts when she sees the eraser... etc but back to the topic, Ocean is not going to disembowel one of the mysteries of the game in discord or here just to disprove theories and stuff. This kind of stuff is what makes us play the game and Ocean is no fool, if he says summer is Sasha the mystery is over.

 

[Damien8d]

I believe robin will free the mc after nadia & zara leave, then they'll get caught once again, this time in the girls locker room with the protagonist half naked.(assuming the mc unlocked the restroom scene beforehand, otherwise she probably won't help him)

Hmm I doubt, that Robin will be the one to help him as she's probably too ashamed ta face him again for what she's done.
I mean sure it's possible but my guess would be Nadja as her helping MC wouldn't be affected by a prior decision MC made.
This would therefore create less points of diversion for the story and therefore less work for the dev.
This story so far always had a overarching story with some diversions, which however led to the same plotpoints and Robin beeing the one to help MC would therefore surprise me.
I could also imagine Nadja beeing the one to help MC because up until the match she was on good terms with MC and she invited him to game night.
She was also a bit too touchy with the MC for me to think she was actually angry with him and probably thought MCs accident with Zara was hillarious.
Maybe she too owed a favour to Zara just like Robin and therefore participated.
She was also probably the only reason why MC wasn't left completely naked.
Someone like Nami (who was worried for MC not coming home and not answering his phone) could also be the one to find MC or a teacher.

 

[_BB_]

There is a scene, earlier in the game, where MC and…..Victoria, Mila, Nami are at a bakery and the intro features a girl dressed in black, veil over her face, has a cigarette holder. I wonder if SHE might actually be the adult Summer. Seems like dev went into a lot of detail there for her not to figure in the story later.

Nah dude that woman looks too old to be Summer. Assumming Summer is at the same age as MC and Nami, she would be around 18-19 or max 20 as they just started college. The woman you mentioned looks around 30.

 

[Garvelt]

Hmm I doubt, that Robin will be the one to help him as she's probably too ashamed ta face him again for what she's done.
I mean sure it's possible but my guess would be Nadja as her helping MC wouldn't be affected by a prior decision MC made.
This would therefore create less points of diversion for the story and therefore less work for the dev.
This story so far always had a overarching story with some diversions, which however led to the same plotpoints and Robin beeing the one to help MC would therefore surprise me.
I could also imagine Nadja beeing the one to help MC because up until the match she was on good terms with MC and she invited him to game night.
She was also a bit too touchy with the MC for me to think she was actually angry with him and probably thought MCs accident with Zara was hillarious.
Maybe she too owed a favour to Zara just like Robin and therefore participated.
She was also probably the only reason why MC wasn't left completely naked.
Someone like Nami (who was worried for MC not coming home and not answering his phone) could also be the one to find MC or a teacher.

I'm not saying Nadia freeing the MC is not possible, but she seemed pissed off, maybe not as much as Zara, but still. There's no point to this whole punishment if one of them is going to free him just like that. Robin on the other hand might feel ashamed, but she is not pissed at the MC, quite the opposite, they are in deep shit together, if the MC went to the bathroom. That creates kind of a bond between them, then there's also the fact that Robin seems to be a genuinely nice person, so with her having a part to play in luring the MC there, I just don't think she would just leave him there. That does not necessarily mean that she has to free the MC herself, telling the coaches that he is there would be more than enough.

Although I have to say I'm loving the idea of Robin and a half naked MC getting caught again to further fuel the rumors. It would be so much fun to see what happens with these two, not to mention the fact that Bella would absolutely lose her mind if you are on her path, especially if they caught them on camera again.

 

[igorreis094]

Hey guys, I want to know what song plays in the Moonlight scene where Bella kisses the MC, please I really want to know what it is (sorry for any mistake, I'm using google translator)

 

[drooopy]

Hey guys, I want to know what song plays in the Moonlight scene where Bella kisses the MC, please I really want to know what it is (sorry for any mistake, I'm using google translator)

 

[Ayhsel]

Dude...
look I doubt she is, although there are behaviours in Sasha that are quite suspicious, glances, how she reacts when she sees the eraser... etc but back to the topic, Ocean is not going to disembowel one of the mysteries of the game in discord or here just to disprove theories and stuff. This kind of stuff is what makes us play the game and Ocean is no fool, if he says summer is Sasha the mystery is over.

I agree.

But again, Sasha=Summer is such an obvious guess that as mystery would a terrible choice.

Anyone that is trying to build mystery would not so easily flash you the answer.

 

[Gladheim]

I agree.

But again, Sasha=Summer is such an obvious guess that as mystery would a terrible choice.

Anyone that is trying to build mystery would not so easily flash you the answer.

But she knows something. And the fact that she shares the same earring than Nami is suspicious. And one in the left and the other in the right

 

[CranberryJuice26]

But she knows something. And the fact that she shares the same earring than Nami is suspicious. And one in the left and the other in the right

For sure, I agree, she's always giving the MC that weird look and also reacted when the MC had a breakdown when he saw the eraser. The scar + all these things that happened also leads me to believe she's somewhat related to whatever happened with Summer.

But then again, she's a fresh character in the game, so we can't do much but theorize.

 

[Ayhsel]

But she knows something. And the fact that she shares the same earring than Nami is suspicious. And one in the left and the other in the right

She may be related. She may know something.

All this for me is a red herring. Nothing more.

All the events that lead to Sasha being Summer are simply because the reader knows it is a mystery. And in some sense it is waiting for clues.

What do we know about our beautiful scar face goddess of war? Nothing. She having the same earring may be an old Nami's friend that has nothing to do with Summer. Or she simoly find it weird they share it.

But again, Summer=Sasha with so heavy "clues" would be a terrible choice.

Clues have to be subtle. Even to go the path "i make them obvious so you discard them" does not really work. If you thought about the possibility, when the mystery is resolved the surprise effect is very dimished. "Ohh yeah I thought it would be once" is not the same as "wow, I never would have imagined that"

 

[CranberryJuice26]

Clues have to be subtle. Even to go the path "i make them obvious so you discard them" does not really work. If you thought about the possibility, when the mystery is resolved the surprise effect is very dimished. "Ohh yeah I thought it would once" is not the same as "wow, I never would have imagined that"

I don't even think that was the intent Ocean had when he said that Sasha isn't Summer. Knowing him, he just wants people to treat Sasha as its own character and stop theorizing about stuff that is most likely not true so it doesn't ruin the personality that he's building for Sasha. I guess it would kinda suck trying to build a new character up and all people will think is that this character is someone else.

Hope you understand what I said, I'm not so good at explaining myself sometimes lol.

 

[Ayhsel]

I don't even think that was the intent Ocean had when he said that Sasha isn't Summer. Knowing him, he just wants people to treat Sasha as its own character and stop theorizing about stuff that is most likely not true so it doesn't ruin the personality that he's building for Sasha. I guess it would kinda suck trying to build a new character up and all people will think is that this character is someone else.

Hope you understand what I said, I'm not so good at explaining myself sometimes lol.

I think I did get your message.

I was simply explainig why Sasha=Summer is a bad plot twist, as it is barely no twist.

Take the earring scene, for example. She looks (goddess she is beautiful) pensative, touches the earring and try to ask a question. Had simply be done, no jump in logic.

But then the next scene is done from an angle to help you see her own earring, just in case you did not remember.
This was not a casual thing, but done on purpose. Ocean wanted to highlight the earring.

Of course, all my opinion. I know nothing about what is really going on.

 

[igorreis094]

i love you man <3

 

[drooopy]

sasha is a very dignified, calm & introspective character, summer on the other hand used to jump on the mc & kiss him, she was not type to use words like derriere.

Their personalities don't match, did summer hit her head & change her persona?

Also, Sasha's character design is really hot, it would be a shame to give her freckles, brown hair & to darken her skin tone. I'm not a fan of the Summer had surgery to change her looks theory.

 

[The_Hybrid]

I think I did get your message.

I was simply explainig why Sasha=Summer is a bad plot twist, as it is barely no twist.

Take the earring scene, for example. She looks (goddess she is beautiful) pensative, touches the earring and try to ask a question. Had simply be done, no jump in logic.

But then the next scene is done from an angle to help you see her own earring, just in case you did not remember.
This was not a casual thing, but done on purpose. Ocean wanted to highlight the earring.

Of course, all my opinion. I know nothing about what is really going on.

All the talk about Sasha makes me replay SG again just to see her over and over again. God, she's just simply beautiful. Bella is THE Queen then Sasha is The Warrior Queen (my Athena if you read Greek Mythology). Bella and Sasha are truly the definition of Loves at First sight

 

[Canto Forte]

Summer is the most wonderful female example for MC .. because she was his most passionate
little kid dreaming of belonging to a gurl feisty and determined 4 eva ... he was hers, he belonged.

sasha is a very dignified, introspective character, summer on the other hand used to jump on the mc & kiss him, she was not type to use words like derriere.

Their personalities don't match, did summer hit her head & change her persona?

Also, Sasha's character design is really hot, it would be a shame to give her freckles, brown hair & to darken her skin tone. I'm not a fan of the Summer had surgery to change her looks theory.

Dial the time forward towards a life spent in a constant battle with other girl/girls to one up one another, you get this ”warrior queen” nonsense persona, hollow and cold on the inside, just taking the piss of life because she is still engaged about one upping her other female warrior possy members.

 

[Grohal]

sasha is a very dignified, introspective character, summer on the other hand used to jump on the mc & kiss him, she was not type to use words like derriere.

Their personalities don't match, did summer hit her head & change her persona?

Also, Sasha's character design is really hot, it would be a shame to give her freckles, brown hair & to darken her skin tone. I'm not a fan of the Summer had surgery to change her looks theory.

Not that I believe Sasha is Summer, but the change of persona thing: it happened to the MC due to Summers disappearance, also I don't think Bella was always the troublemaker she is now, why couldn't it happen to another person?

 

[drooopy]

Not that I believe Sasha is Summer, but the change of persona thing: it happened to the MC due to Summers disappearance, also I don't think Bella was always the troublemaker she is now, why couldn't it happen to another person?

mc became dysfunctional, but his personality didn't change

 

[The_Hybrid]

I don't think Ocean is the kind of dev to abandon stuff, I just don't think that he has a very good development strategy set up at the moment. Given that it takes a full year to release a chapter for SG, I can't really tell how long he's gonna take to release more WIAB content.

Well, i just did it. Hope this is not the bad idea and I don't cause him any trouble. Finger Crossed

 

[ghost008]

Does anyone know when 3.5 final will come