VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[LHDLLB]

Have seen some discussion about Bella and the Stephan, so thought about trowing my 2 cents in the conversation, the first time I played I did not give much crendice to Bella accusations about him, for me Bella was just being petty and jealous of Amber replaying it... It is possible that Stephan has involvement in what ever went down with Bella sister or worse had done something to Bella herself as a child ? Pedophilia is not a light accusation and Bella seems segure about that, not saying that she was SA but maybe he has done something to her at some point ? I don't think so but is a thought that has pop up in my mind reading Ch 2.

Still about some discussion that have seen is the thread that find interesting to discuss, at this point I am assuming that everybody know everybody except Nami and Nika, Trey might be a lost Zane or Rivera for all that I know, but more than that, everyone of power knows Nami and Nika, Vanessa know Mila for some reason, the interesting aspect of this is that there are action happening that we don't know about. The coches are plotting against the first team with Zane approvel - and a remark that in ZPR rules are a little more than guidelines - the Holgerson are framing Mila, Ceril sister is bending the law to arrest Bella and Nojiko is hiding more than we suspect we only know a fraction of what is happening and even less of what happened. I think that next chapter will shine a little more light with Auya sparing lesson, if Kate have gone out of her way to see Nami she will no lost the opportunity to interact with Nika.

Another thought that has pop up in my head - that I don't much believe in - is that we know that Nami is bissexual, maybe Nami was not in love with Nika but with Summer ? I don't think that if fit perfectly but if so the entire perception of the fandom about what happened between them are wrong, if anything is a good food for thoughts.

 

[Don Sucio]

Have seen some discussion about Bella and the Stephan, so thought about trowing my 2 cents in the conversation, the first time I played I did not give much crendice to Bella accusations about him, for me Bella was just being petty and jealous of Amber replaying it... It is possible that Stephan has involvement in what ever went down with Bella sister or worse had done something to Bella herself as a child ? Pedophilia is not a light accusation and Bella seems segure about that, not saying that she was SA but maybe he has done something to her at some point ? I don't think so but is a thought that has pop up in my mind reading Ch 2.

Still about some discussion that have seen is the thread that find interesting to discuss, at this point I am assuming that everybody know everybody except Nami and Nika, Trey might be a lost Zane or Rivera for all that I know, but more than that, everyone of power knows Nami and Nika, Vanessa know Mila for some reason, the interesting aspect of this is that there are action happening that we don't know about. The coches are plotting against the first team with Zane approvel - and a remark that in ZPR rules are a little more than guidelines - the Holgerson are framing Mila, Ceril sister is bending the law to arrest Bella and Nojiko is hiding more than we suspect we only know a fraction of what is happening and even less of what happened. I think that next chapter will shine a little more light with Auya sparing lesson, if Kate have gone out of her way to see Nami she will no lost the opportunity to interact with Nika.

Another thought that has pop up in my head - that I don't much believe in - is that we know that Nami is bissexual, maybe Nami was not in love with Nika but with Summer ? I don't think that if fit perfectly but if so the entire perception of the fandom about what happened between them are wrong, if anything is a good food for thoughts.

About the Pedophilia accusation i think is important too. My first thought is that Stephan tried something with Bella´s sister or Bella herself but they didn´t say anything to Amber for whatever reason, maybe for embarrassment, sexual agression´s victims ususally are embarrassed about what happened and don´t want to tell nothing, or scared. Or maybe Bella knows something about Stephan and a minor and she just is disgusted about that , who knows...

Nami liking Summer and not Nika is something interesting too, i didn´t think about that, but i think Nami changing her hair style and copy Summer is a proof that indicates more that Nami was trying to copy her for try to obtain Nika´s interest again, and there is the theory about Nami and Nika having some type of relationship between them , is an interesting theory too.

 

[codex35]

I don't think Stephan had anything to do with Bella's sister because if he did, Bella would have already killed Stephan.

 

[yossa999]

I mean in the sense that it's interesting just how much i wanna punch him in the face. His haircut has a more interesting character arc than him.

Oh no, I just realized you changed your username (yeah, I'm a slowpoke) and we pretty much argued about this and that during the beta.
But even if you're just trolling, I'll still answer sincere.

The dude is a pretty cool character, an asshole but not much, he is honest with people who deserve it, I admire his attitude towards girls, he treats them with a mixture of a certain amount of cynicism, irony, sincere interest, care and respect. Apparently, so that his experienced and mature personality would not be too striking, the author emphasized his teenage features too caricaturedly, maybe he even overdid. But I can live with it.

Just one example: when the girls in Chapter 4x5 assure him that he's not alone and they all want to help him, he sarcastically replies to them with a subtle smirk, "But do I even like you guys?" My dude!

I don't even want to comment on his flaccid dick, I think anyone who paid attention to the game understands that this is a temporary condition and just a plot limitation that will soon to be removed.

And Ocean doesn’t need to turn him into a Casanova, the girls seem to have already warmed up and for good reason. The dude is objectively attractive and his emo/edgelord/whatever aura is a killer for 18-19 year old girls. Let's add there that he hits the gym, maintains the reputation of a macho who fucks girls in the toilet cabin. And on top of that add that he sincerely shows interest in the personalities of girls when he communicates with them, easily gains their trust and finds the right words like Simon Baker from The Mentalist. Damn it, limpy wormy is the only thing that stops them from eating him alive.

 

[LHDLLB]

About the Pedophilia accusation i think is important too. My first thought is that Stephan tried something with Bella´s sister or Bella herself but they didn´t say anything to Amber for whatever reason, maybe for embarrassment, sexual agression´s victims ususally are embarrassed about what happened and don´t want to tell nothing, or scared. Or maybe Bella knows something about Stephan and a minor and she just is disgusted about that , who knows...

Nami liking Summer and not Nika is something interesting too, i didn´t think about that, but i think Nami changing her hair style and copy Summer is a proof that indicates more that Nami was trying to copy her for try to obtain Nika´s interest again, and there is the theory about Nami and Nika having some type of relationship between them , is an interesting theory too.

Yeah, I myself don't think much of this ideas either, maybe a little less about Bella, not of her being SA but of her knowing of something that we don't, she truly hates him to the point of now wanting to be touched in the more casual way, her problem with him goes beyond just Amber. Nami is much less believable, but I find interesting to try see the situation throughout different lens

 

[NeroZee]

Oh no, I just realized you changed your username (yeah, I'm a slowpoke) and we pretty much argued about this and that during the beta.
But even if you're just trolling, I'll still answer sincere.

The dude is a pretty cool character, an asshole but not much, he is honest with people who deserve it, I admire his attitude towards girls, he treats them with a mixture of a certain amount of cynicism, irony, sincere interest, care and respect. Apparently, so that his experienced and mature personality would not be too striking, the author emphasized his teenage features too caricaturedly, maybe he even overdid. But I can live with it.

Just one example: when the girls in Chapter 4x5 assure him that he's not alone and they all want to help him, he sarcastically replies to them with a subtle smirk, "But do I even like you guys?" My dude!

I don't even want to comment on his flaccid dick, I think anyone who paid attention to the game understands that this is a temporary condition and just a plot limitation that will soon to be removed.

And Ocean doesn’t need to turn him into a Casanova, the girls seem to have already warmed up and for good reason. The dude is objectively attractive and his emo/edgelord/whatever aura is a killer for 18-19 year old girls. Let's add there that he hits the gym, maintains the reputation of a macho who fucks girls in the toilet cabin. And on top of that add that he sincerely shows interest in the personalities of girls when he communicates with them, easily gains their trust and finds the right words like Simon Baker from The Mentalist. Damn it, limpy wormy is the only thing that stops them from eating him alive.

Why would i be trolling, you yourself remember that it's a position i held since the Beta version of the game.

I mean Ocean definitely toned him down to what he used to be, he is still somewhat of a cold prick. While i dont really like his overall attitude, what i dont like it is because it works flawlessly in the game, every girl is either ok with or likes him, in reality most would just think him to be weird and anti-social.

Yea i get it he has a "idgaf" attitude "I am too cool for school man", such a fucking tryhard character, eh...

Yes i know it's a temporary condition, my problem is not his flaccid dick thats an obvious in game excuse for the outgame direction that the Ocean has taken, my problem is what happens once it's no longer flaccid.

Why are they warmed up to him? I dont wanna repeat myself but everything about him screams "I repel girls", yet they stick on him like flies to shit. But lets even ignore that, what happens when the leash is unleashed, is he gonna start fucking them left or right and if not what are we gonna do with all those girl characters? Just have them be there to tease us with something that will never happen? Its just a weird writers dichotomy that Ocean wrote himself into.

Once again you cant have him go from 0 to 100 instantly and at the same time you cant just have him go from 1 to like 3 and then maybe 8 and stop there ignoring everything else. As i said originally the pacing of this game is bad and is only about to get worse.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I wonder if Kelly is related to Daphne they both have the same earrings. Ocean likes to throw easter eggs at us so I wonder.

 

[NeroZee]

And another....

You told me to move the discussion of the MC of this game to the appropriate thread. Now you are complaining that i am discussing the MC at all. I am not even sure what you even want exactly now?

 

[soprano31]

You told me to move the discussion of the MC of this game to the appropriate thread. Now you are complaining that i am discussing the MC at all. I am not even sure what you even want exactly now?

Take your OT where it belongs.

https://thef95zone.info/forums/off-topic.106/

 

[Darkdevil66]

And another....

 

[NeroZee]

https://thef95zone.info/forums/off-topic.106/

Why would i go to OT to discuss the main character of this game instead of discussing him in the thread of the game he is the main character of? Is this entire thing just so some people can shield having their feelings hurt from seeing any criticism of the game because they never visit the OT threads.
Seriously what is this baby behavior all of a sudden lol.

 

[NeroZee]

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Damn i was right, this is people just being babies lol. Also that fucking hair gets worse every time i see it, i swear. At least i have Nias gravity defying boobs to go with the gravity defying hair.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I don't think nika and Nami will live at nick's house as they agreed with mila to rent a student house

Right now, Ocean makes minor use of time skips.

I've posted on ways this would work in the future, so I'll not repeat that post.

I'll offer instead - that, barring a time skip, Mila said it would take a few weeks before the house is ready.

For the near future, I see Noji, Nika and Nami living at Nick's house and more MC/Zara time (Love this) and a Vanessa who spends more time at home investigating/chatting up her likely new step siblings (My MC is keeping Vanessa at arm's length and, if given the option encouraging Nami to be very careful what she shares with her).

I also think the MC and Nami will get to know and trust Nick more and I like the way he has treated Noji, Nami and the MC so far.

Cheers!!

 

[yossa999]

Why would i be trolling, you yourself remember that it's a position i held since the Beta version of the game.

I mean Ocean definitely toned him down to what he used to be, he is still somewhat of a cold prick. While i dont really like his overall attitude, what i dont like it is because it works flawlessly in the game, every girl is either ok with or likes him, in reality most would just think him to be weird and anti-social.

Yea i get it he has a "idgaf" attitude "I am too cool for school man", such a fucking tryhard character, eh...

Yes i know it's a temporary condition, my problem is not his flaccid dick thats an obvious in game excuse for the outgame direction that the Ocean has taken, my problem is what happens once it's no longer flaccid.

Why are they warmed up to him? I dont wanna repeat myself but everything about him screams "I repel girls", yet they stick on him like flies to shit. But lets even ignore that, what happens when the leash is unleashed, is he gonna start fucking them left or right and if not what are we gonna do with all those girl characters? Just have them be there to tease us with something that will never happen? Its just a weird writers dichotomy that Ocean wrote himself into.

Once again you cant have him go from 0 to 100 instantly and at the same time you cant just have him go from 1 to like 3 and then maybe 8 and stop there ignoring everything else. As i said originally the pacing of this game is bad and is only about to get worse.

Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters?

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys.

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick.

 

[Krytax123]

Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters?

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys.

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick.

Similar to Nia (whos obviously curious as summer couldnt shut up about nika's greatness) there is the possibility that vic doesnt just randomly followed Nika.

Considering that Nojiko knew the frohns, its possibile that they saw each other in the past already and Vic recognized him and therefore followed him.

I hope there is some reason for vics obsession, like maybe was 6yo vic in love with nika back than, because she creeps me out otherwise

 

[yossa999]

Similar to Nia (whos obviously curious as summer couldnt shut up about nika's greatness) there is the possibility that vic doesnt just randomly followeld Nika.

Considering that Nojiko knew the frohns, its possibile that they saw each other in the past already and Vic recognized him and therefore followed him.

I hope there is some reason for vics obsession, like maybe was 6yo vic in love with nika back than, because she creeps me out otherwise

Haha, at least now her "warm, radiant smile" doesn't look like this:

 

[Kakasan]

Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters?

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys.

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick.

There are several funny scenes with Zara, first Nika doesn't to go to the gym, after some bad choices, they go to play tennis and because of Nika they lose because he is out of shape

 

[yossa999]

There are several funny scenes with Zara, first Nika doesn't to go to the gym, after some bad choices, they go to play tennis and because of Nika they lose because he is out of shape

Yeah, and if I remember correctly, then she refuses to tell him about her parents' divorce because she feels like she doesn't know or trust him enough.

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

You, along with the rest of Ocean's defenders

Do you really think that anyone here cares about your words

Am I defending him? where did I, in my post, defend Ocean? please, show me. Why am I gonna beat a dead dog like you and most people on here? "No sex booo, I can't see the MC's DICK anymore (ha, gaaaaay)" you are one of the ones constantly bitching/complaining and yet, you remain.

If you hate it so much, why are you still here? to try and leave replies to people you assume are "defending" Ocean for what? to get some reactions because that's all you got in your sad, empty life? I was just joking with my reply but you got butthurt from it.

You need to step away from the PC and get some fresh air.

Yeah, you cared enough to reply lol.

 

[Kakasan]

Yeah, and if I remember correctly, then she refuses to tell him about her parents' divorce because she feels like she doesn't know or trust him enough.

This choice It's worth it, if Nika refuses all women, then Vanessa invites him to go out together