crabsinthekitchen

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i think it takes longer. BaDik is updated at least once a year, which a complete chapter each update. This has been going on for as long as I've known the game. Summers Gone, on the other hand, the updates take much longer and are usually much shorter. I agree with you on all other points.
SG updates seem shorter because BaDIK is padded with freeroams that you can't just ctrl-skip through. Just counting renders, SG Chapter 4 has about as many as BaDIK Episodes 3, 4 or 5
 

Gh0st_Harambe

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Much shorter? Chapter 4 was larger than every single BaD episode(and if he did not also work on remastering chapter 1, chapter 4 may have been even larger). Every update up to this point had various circumstances that led to them being brought forth in the times they were. SG started out as a joint venture by Oceanlabs and another developer. As you can see now, that other developer is no longer in the picture. Many things have changed, and it's only recently that things have begun to calm down. Don't forget that DPC has at least 17x the amount of support that Oceanlabs has(also more hardware), so it's not even fair to compare that aspect of these games yet. This is one of the reasons why I gave Oceans a year or two... because by then, he'll be in more of a position to actually challenge DPC when it comes to his development period. DPC had almost everything figured out when he started BaD... Oceans is still learning. But when he does have everything figured out, Summer's Gone may very well be superior to BaD in every category.

Oceans made clear that the only reason we didn't receive the update in February, was due to the tabletop session. He also said that he was aiming for another update this year. Seeing as there's no tabletop session in the next update, I'm inclined to believe him. Oceanlabs is not the kind of developer or person to say things like this without possessing the qualifications to back up his words. He's poured a lot of himself into this project since chapter 2, and really, chapter 3. After seeing what he's done since these updates, I'm inclined to believe his statements. If we, the audience, start to receive multiple updates per year(which is the ultimate goal), then the only thing BaD would have over SG would be its dialogue and lewd content. And by that point, if we're receiving multiple updates per year, these problems may have very well been solved. This is why I gave Oceans a few years to reach this point. Once he does, no other AVN would be able to compare.

crabsinthekitchen if we're looking strictly at renders, then chapter 4 had around 2400 renders if memory serves me correct. Episode 8 of BaD had 2300 renders... I'll have to double-check, but I literally just came across it in the BaD thread yesterday.
Badik´s episode 8 had 4158 renders.
 

Klopdwerg

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Badik´s episode 8 had 4158 renders.
And don't forget the 358 animations...

I don't think you should compare those 2. Both are a league of their own and that's why both are also in my top 3.
Also Badik episode 8 was the longest wait with almost 7 months. The others were little over 5 months or less.
DPC did a speedrun on episode 7 with over 3700 renders and 250 animations in those 5 months.

It was his intention to make the episodes smaller from 9 and up but his estimate is that episode 9 will have 3500 renders and 240 animations so he still can't control himself.

Ocean could do it way faster once his patreons go up and he can get better gear like DPC but most off all.... He should focus on SG imho. Where it all began is good, very good but for me SG is way ahead. And if he wasn't making those 2 at the same time his updates would be much faster.
 

Klopdwerg

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Most, if not all, of the people on this thread will agree with you. But the Ocean does not agree, and only his choice matters.
True, and i wish he could get past his sense of responsibility and just put WIAB on hold.
If i'm correct he took that project back after a dispute and has his mind set on reworking and finishing it.

Personally i think he would profit way more if he focussed on SG first. With faster updates the fanbase will be more pleased and he will get more patreons.
 

Razrback16

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True, and i wish he could get past his sense of responsibility and just put WIAB on hold.
If i'm correct he took that project back after a dispute and has his mind set on reworking and finishing it.

Personally i think he would profit way more if he focussed on SG first. With faster updates the fanbase will be more pleased and he will get more patreons.
Ya I'm looking forward to the WIAB story with Leia (and maybe Daphne), but definitely enjoy SG more at this point.
 

Tserriednich'sNen

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True, and i wish he could get past his sense of responsibility and just put WIAB on hold.
If i'm correct he took that project back after a dispute and has his mind set on reworking and finishing it.

Personally i think he would profit way more if he focussed on SG first. With faster updates the fanbase will be more pleased and he will get more patreons.
Yep, but Ocean seems insistent on working on 2 different projects at the same time regardless of the drawbacks.
 

Crusader of Romance

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All the nonsense about his adoptive mom not being mom is because of shitfukk Patreon (SFP)

Ocean apparently doesn't want to have both games fighting the censorship so he gave up for SG and is retconning like a Marvel movie.


Of course a 3 year old would not EVER have a landlady but you have no other words to use that will keep SFP from ban hammering the place down.

I feel his pain and it is all because of SFP
Another solution would be to not have the mom be a sexual conquest, you know like in real life? Unless I'm living under a rock and most guys bang their moms IRL.
 

jaw1986baby

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Another solution would be to not have the mom be a sexual conquest, you know like in real life? Unless I'm living under a rock and most guys bang their moms IRL.
Nothing I said is for or against fukn her. (No sex in game right now anyway)

The story calling her landlord since the MC was 3 is super fukkn dumb and Patreon does not care that there is no sex or anything they just assume there will be (based on so many games where every woman is on the table, they may be justified in this) so the stupid title is there to appease them.

Have we ever even got word that she will be a LI in the future??

Cuz my rant against Patreon and the stupidity of her title wasn't about that.

But if there is going to be some Mommy sex then so what. People have their kinks and that is one that people have so it gets included in these VNs.

You do know they are not documentaries, right? Like none of this is IRL..... have you been under a rock while coming to this forum??
 

ICanBeCuddly!

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I'm fine with slowburns, and I really don't mind the update rate as well.
It's only when the two combine, like with AWAM that it becomes a bit of a nuisance.
In my opinion, if you know that the updates will be few and far between and the story is also moving at a slow pace, it's not a bad idea to introduce some easy to achieve sex scenes, either in the form of a flashback with an earlier relationship or with a side character which isn't going to play an important role in the story.

But that's just my opinion and what I like in games. And I'm fine with waiting, if the characters and story are good enough.
That's as long as I'm not paying for anything, Oceanlab is very open about the development speed and how he wants to tell his story, so I knew I would become frustrated, if I actually invested money in this, so I chose not to and mooch of others, as you do on a pirate site.

To sum it up, story and characters are good, you know it's a slowburn and there won't be a lot of sex scenes early on, so if you have a problem with that, better not become a patron, if you aren't a patron and the dev is open and honest about how he works and how the game will progress, you really don't have a lot of reasons to complain.
There are so many games to play while waiting, most of the time I barely manage to keep up with the updates to games I like and checking out new ones.
I get that when it comes to AWAM, but that cannot be said for SG as well. Since this stubborn of an artist develops two games each day!
 
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