JoshuaSweden

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That is not what the person is referring to, and you know it.
  1. The game is free for anyone to play. That is what they are saying.
  2. DC and the dev team earn money through subscriptions on Patreon. That's where they earn their money. And this is what you are saying.
Two different things. Both are true.
But totor83 did specifically write " He doesn’t make anything from it" - and he clearly does. Just as a free broadcast makes money from commercials - just because people aren't specifically buying something doesn't mean that you're not "making anything from it". That implies that his revenue isn't connected to the game. It clearly is. Clearly, people are paying him because of this game. And clearly, many people here think that he's milking it. You may disagree, but don't obfuscate things. DC is most definitely making a lot of money from this game.
 

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But totor83 did specifically write " He doesn’t make anything from it" - and he clearly does. Just as a free broadcast makes money from commercials - just because people aren't specifically buying something doesn't mean that you're not "making anything from it". That implies that his revenue isn't connected to the game. It clearly is. Clearly, people are paying him because of this game. And clearly, many people here think that he's milking it. You may disagree, but don't obfuscate things. DC is most definitely making a lot of money from this game.
I did not obfuscate things.

I clearly and distinctly showed how the game is 100% free, directly from the developer for anyone who wants to play it, which was totor's point. Totor did go further, but the context of his statement was obvious -- DC provides the game for free for anyone to play. Also, English is not totor's first language, and that must also be considered in his grammar and word choice.

Even if you want to quibble.. no, he doesn't "make anything" from Summertime Saga, the game. The paid subscriptions provide subscribers other benefits in exchange for their $$$ - none of which are the game, itself. It's for discord channel and role access, wallpapers, 24-hour link prior to official public link, subscriber-only download faster servers, and other perks. But not the game.

Yes, people subscribe because they like the game and support DC continuing with the dev team to work on the game... But there is no written guarantee that what will be in releases or when releases happen, nor is it ever stated that playing the game, in any version, requires a subscription. If people think otherwise, that is their failing, because DC is clear on the Patreon in writing and in streams and other communications that the game is free for everyone to play, if they want.

I also clearly and distinctly showed from where DC gets his money from and showed examples of similarity for better understanding and clarity.

Is the game free directly from DC's website for everyone who wants to play it?
Yes.

Does DC and his dev team earn money from supporters through subscriptions on Patreon?
Yes.

Do those subscriptions make it more possible for the game to be free for everyone to enjoy, just like contributors and advertisers make it more possible for USA broadcast TV and radio to be free for everyone to enjoy?
Yes.
 
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JoshuaSweden

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I did not obfuscate things.
Don't try to rewrite reality here.

totor83 said: Stop complaining. DC said from the beginning that this game is free. He doesn’t make anything from it and he doesn’t owe you anything.
BoyHowdy981 said: LOL he doesn't make anything from it.... LOL thats why he has an army of gooners paying him..... LOL he doesn't make anything.... LOL
Count Morado said: That is not what the person is referring to, and you know it.

Totor83 wrote "that he doesn't make anything from it", and BoyHowdy981 responded "LOL" to that statement, right? BoyHowdy981 did not in any way claim that the game isnt' free. The beginning of your response, "That is not what the person is referring to, and you know it" is clearly misleading. No one claimed that the game cost money.
 

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Incest Patch for the latest update (WIP 5605) and the Pre-Tech Version (0.20.16)

This is a patch that reverts back the relationship of the characters to how it was before the change in Patreon policy.
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Why use this patch?
Much more comprehensive list of changes to dialogue. I checked almost every line of dialogue and made sure it flowed correctly. This is not just a simple name change for the characters, but whole blocks of lines are back to their 14.5 version of the game (the last version that has incest). New dialogue written for this tech update also were taken into consideration since DarkCookie is adding new story beats. I'll try to make the dialogue conform to their familial relationship as much as possible. I also modified the art asset to fit the new widescreen resolution of the game, and will continue doing so as needed.


What about other incest patches out there?
outdated and shouldn't be used. Lots of text bugs and not made for the latest pre-tech version.

is not compatible with my patch. It hasn't been updated in a while and all the changes that patch offers is also included in my patch.

Relation Tweaker Mod is not compatible with my patch. However, I recommend using this one instead if you want to customize the relationship between characters. This patch allows step relations or mixed step/incest relations. It works with the new tech update only.

Relation Tweaker Lewd+ is standalone and should work with any incest patch/mod. It works with the new tech update only.

Naughty Tribute Mod is not an incest patch, but a mod for the pre-tech version (0.20.16). There are some compatibility issues I haven't looked into yet. Someone in this thread uploaded a fix here, and while I haven’t personally tested it, you’re welcome to give it a try.


Installation:
Pick only one ipatch file!


Place the RPA file on the game folder.
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Credits:
This patch is inspired and modified from the previous uploads that came before it. Special thanks to Scarlet Ashbringer, Sothyr and Xaverion for their previous work on a patch. And to raschi for helping me with some questions on how to develop this patch!
game crashes on launch :(

Code:
While running game code:
  File "game/ipatch.rpy", line 101, in <module>
ImportError: cannot import name 'clan' from 'saga' (saga/__init__.pyc)
pls help,
 

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Don't try to rewrite reality here.

totor83 said: Stop complaining. DC said from the beginning that this game is free. He doesn’t make anything from it and he doesn’t owe you anything.
BoyHowdy981 said: LOL he doesn't make anything from it.... LOL thats why he has an army of gooners paying him..... LOL he doesn't make anything.... LOL
Count Morado said: That is not what the person is referring to, and you know it.

Totor83 wrote "that he doesn't make anything from it", and BoyHowdy981 responded "LOL" to that statement, right? BoyHowdy981 did not in any way claim that the game isnt' free. The beginning of your response, "That is not what the person is referring to, and you know it" is clearly misleading. No one claimed that the game cost money.
You are using full quotes at first and then being very selective in order to support your position, taking out of context. I am not the one rewriting reality. Take a breath and reread.

And since drawn out discussions of development and how much a developer makes is off topic for game threads... I'll continue here.
 

Automata

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Did the game got a reset/restart ? Whenever I try to load a save from someone else I still see that like the pizzaria and some other zones are still locked and there's not really much content.
Yes, anything after the tech update is a re-working of the game with much less content. Basically you get Jenny and half of Debbie's content.

If you want all of the old content play v0.20.16. It's the last update before the tech up that nuked the majority of the content. (Anything that is v21.xxxx or later is running on the tech update with less content but with newer or newish assets and changed back end code.)
 

john1230

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game crashes on launch :(

Code:
While running game code:
  File "game/ipatch.rpy", line 101, in <module>
ImportError: cannot import name 'clan' from 'saga' (saga/__init__.pyc)
pls help,
You need to tell people what version of the game you are playing and what patch did you use!

Also if you are using windows, macintosh or your own custom operating system!

But in general, you can't use v5605 game with pre tech v0.20.16 patch.

or

pre tech game v0.20.16 with v5605 patch.

You must use the patch that is for that version of the game!

v5605 game needs v5605 patch!

v0.20.16 game needs v0.20.16 patch!
 

Emma2dg

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I have a problem in the mission of entering Jenny's room and not finding her diary, there is nothing and I can't get out. IMG_20250313_215648.jpg
 
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