VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[BenoTF25]

Something i would like to see before the game reach 1.0, is a Dead End with Henri as it's main focus.

Just think about it, two of the Big 3 of HERO had already have a Dead End involving them and the Eye, first during the battle of diamonds, while Deus is the one that cut short the Eye there, the latter falled into desperation to become whole or 'obtain at least one' thanks to seeing Malik, second during Cole's fight, not much to say there, Bernhardt outright erased the eye, that leave us with only Henri left to have his own ending with him either making the Eye feel distress or killing it, either way I want to see that Clown finally fight, and I hope W.W get creative with it and perhaps another hint about Henri being indeed an Arbiter (Paradox) Host himself

 

[Jonathan Y]

Something i would like to see before the game reach 1.0, is a Dead End with Henri as it's main focus.

Just think about it, two of the Big 3 of HERO had already have a Dead End involving them and the Eye, first during the battle of diamonds, while Deus is the one that cut short the Eye there, the latter falled into desperation to become whole or 'obtain at least one' thanks to seeing Malik, second during Cole's fight, not much to say there, Bernhardt outright erased the eye, that leave us with only Henri left to have his own ending with him either making the Eye feel distress or killing it, either way I want to see that Clown finally fight, and I hope W.W get creative with it and perhaps another hint about Henri being indeed an Arbiter (Paradox) Host himself

God I hope not, I mean I'm all for more Henri content don't get me wrong, but a good number of fans have already pointed out how the Eye's losing streak is kinda diminishing his presence, if he jobs AGAIN to a HERO heavyweight it would just be too repetitive.
Plus ffs, we've had enough jerking off and showing how utterly broken the HERO big three are, the point has been driven home enough, now it's time to show them struggling against equal threats.

Plus if the Eye will be featured in another dead end that will be at the fourth evolution, that's just one evolution shy of the Mc's peak power potential, so at this point any Eye ending should really start packing some serious, world altering consequences, really show how powerful it is, he is supposed to approach his strongest form, him getting one or two shooted again would be such a letdown.

And it's hard to imagine a long fight against Henri since his powers are so enigmatic.......soooo if it's another dead end where the Eye gets stomped, then I pass, and hope we get something else.

 

[Krytax123]

God I hope not, I mean I'm all for more Henri content don't get me wrong, but a good number of fans have already pointed out how the Eye's losing streak is kinda diminishing his presence, if he jobs AGAIN to a HERO heavyweight it would just be too repetitive.
Plus ffs, we've had enough jerking off and showing how utterly broken the HERO big three are, the point has been driven home enough, now it's time to show them struggling against equal threats.

Plus if the Eye will be featured in another dead end that will be at the fourth evolution, that's just one evolution shy of the Mc's peak power potential, so at this point any Eye ending should really start packing some serious, world altering consequences, he is supposed to approach his strongest form, him getting one or two shotted again would be such a letdown.

Yeah at some point it will start to feel like you lose your free will to become ... weaker and kinda dumb/confused

 

[shujuku]

Guys do you think they talk about fortnite in the history lessons considering its 2049 so fortnite is a super renowned event?

 

[BenoTF25]

Yeah at some point it will start to feel like you lose your free will to become ... weaker and kinda dumb/confused

Now that you put it that way, the Eye certainly hasn'tshow anything crazy, sure he has a body "beyond its fifth" and more raw power than 90% of the cast, but variety-wise is lame as fuck

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Now that you put it that way, the Eye certainly hasn'tshow anything crazy, sure he has a body "beyond its fifth" and more raw power than 90% of the cast, but variety-wise is lame as fuck

That's my hope: That if the Eye appears again, it does something cool and out there with its powers, something that's completely new and not just scaling up the MC's powers. Even if it loses, I want to see it do something that will hype the audience up for the full potential of Evolution. Both to breed anticipation for when the MC gets to play with those toys, and dread for what a fully-incarnated and complete Eye could do.

 

[BenoTF25]

God I hope not, I mean I'm all for more Henri content don't get me wrong, but a good number of fans have already pointed out how the Eye's losing streak is kinda diminishing his presence, if he jobs AGAIN to a HERO heavyweight it would just be too repetitive.
Plus ffs, we've had enough jerking off and showing how utterly broken the HERO big three are, the point has been driven home enough, now it's time to show them struggling against equal threats.

Plus if the Eye will be featured in another dead end that will be at the fourth evolution, that's just one evolution shy of the Mc's peak power potential, so at this point any Eye ending should really start packing some serious, world altering consequences, really show how powerful it is, he is supposed to approach his strongest form, him getting one or two shooted again would be such a letdown.

And it's hard to imagine a long fight against Henri since his powers are so enigmatic.......soooo if it's another dead end where the Eye gets stomped, then I pass, and hope we get something else.

You know, I actually do agree with you there after thinking about it a bit more, I guess me wanting to see more of Henri and some sort of 'uniformity' among the top 3 of HERO make me overlook the fact that the Eye being stomped yet again would be more lame rather than hype to see, besides, the whole of them, Malik, Bernhardt and Henri have been already recognized by the Eye during the Dead End in which he eat Hex's Dimension, so there is that, one specifically for Henri would be a bit redundant, at the cost of leave the Potential Arbiter of Evolution like an absolute jobber, like even if Henri is indeed Paradox, the Eye would be losing against other Arbiter that is not even conscious within it's vessel, that would be sorry asf(if we go with that theory being actually correct)

Still, I want to see Henri doing some crazy stuff, pronto, his powers are probably very entertaining to see, even more if he use them in a way that reflect his design, Depressed Clown, give me a Reality Marble that is a damn circus

 

[Jonathan Y]

You know, I actually do agree with you there after thinking about it a bit more, I guess me wanting to see more of Henri and some sort of 'uniformity' among the top 3 of HERO make me overlook the fact that the Eye being stomped yet again would be more lame rather than hype to see, besides, the whole of them, Malik, Bernhardt and Henri have been already recognized by the Eye during the Dead End in which he eat Hex's Dimension, so there is that, one specifically for Henri would be a bit redundant, at the cost of leave the Potential Arbiter of Evolution like an absolute jobber, like even if Henri is indeed Paradox, the Eye would be losing against other Arbiter that is not even conscious within it's vessel, that would be sorry asf(if we go with that theory being actually correct)

Still, I want to see Henri doing some crazy stuff, pronto, his powers are probably very entertaining to see, even more if he use them in a way that reflect his design, Depressed Clown, give me a Reality Marble that is a damn circus

Honestly, maybe it's my lack of imagination speaking, but how do you even write a fight that isn't a one shot featuring Henri ?
It's hard to imagine, I mean Sylla's dream environment allowed the developer to write a very entertaining fight where her unique powers are on display, but writing a fight where someone like Henri, with reality bending, overpowered as hell power seems very hard to imagine to me.

I mean how does someone with abilities based in the physical realm even counter reality bending ?

 

[BenoTF25]

Honestly, maybe it's my lack of imagination speaking, but how do you even write a fight that isn't a one shot featuring Henri ?
It's hard to imagine, I mean Sylla's dream environment allowed the developer to write a very entertaining fight where her unique powers are on display, but writing a fight where someone like Henri, with reality bending, overpowered as hell power seems very hard to imagine to me.

I mean how does someone with abilities based in the physical realm even counter reality bending ?

I imagine his power either have limitations(like, not being able to directly affect living beings) or Henri himself rejecting them make them work badly.

Going by his joke/threat of create an Unicorn to fuck Lisa, I think his powers may only became active with speak and clear statements, like, 'Your blood is gonna be replaced by lava at 5:25 pm, Tuesday', or something like that, like Gremmy from Bleach instead of outright erase anything from existence with a thought, but yeah, make fights using a character that has reality bending as it's power is very difficult, but I believe that WW may cook something good

 

[jjtom000]

I love Nico, but man she seriously talk crazy sometimes, I mean is part of her charm, but thinking back about it, she saying shit about Zack while asking him for a fight with his position on the line, and the latter answering that she 'Is not Worth his time' might be just the truth.

Zack has probably one of the best records among the Captains, he as a level four run into Indra and even managed to see his Weapon(that Indra himself stated on his fight with Syla, only is draw out during a fight that's actually worth it), yeah he was stomped but still, he make the chosen of Power see him as worthy enough, more impressive than that however is Zack surviving against an Avatar of the 7th Apostle, yeah, he had his whole team at the time(though an argument could be made here about it being more a liability rather than an advantage), and he ended all fucked up later but survived the encounter and none of his team(that we know of) died on his watch, that's impressive, even more so since the Lord of Dark seem to be one of the top dogs among the Apostles, having wrecked Memory on an instant and making Ella look absolutely terrified like never after during the 'Too Strong, Too soon' ending.

And yeah, i know that his powers are probably the best to survive against beings stronger than him, but those are still some crazy feats, after all no other Superhuman that we know of, has ever survived an encounter with an Apostle that was Actively trying to harm them, Zack did it as a Level 4, going back to the beginning of my comment, Nico in comparasion was pretty much sweating with only a bad look of Berni, Zack seem genuinely a tier above her.

Zack is probably the worst opponent for a one-trick pony like her, as Nyx had hinted. You need either insanely high skills/battle IQ or overwhelming power to survive Zack's power, and Nico lacks both.

Edit: Power that grants insanely high survivability would also be good against Zack's power like Lucius and Ella's, which again is sth Nico lacks.

 

[Jonathan Y]

I imagine his power either have limitations(like, not being able to directly affect living beings) or Henri himself rejecting them make them work badly.

Going by his joke/threat of create an Unicorn to fuck Lisa, I think his powers may only became active with speak and clear statements, like, 'Your blood is gonna be replaced by lava at 5:25 pm, Tuesday', or something like that, like Gremmy from Bleach instead of outright erase anything from existence with a thought, but yeah, make fights using a character that has reality bending as it's power is very difficult, but I believe that WW may cook something good

HA, that's funny you mention his unicorn threat, because I am literally just replaying for the 5th or so time and I just got to that part half an hour ago and instead of chosing the shout option like I did before I this time chose to explore and encounter Henri, totaly new stuff, haven't read that bit before.

Also his warning about evolutions is crazy, him going to level 5 in a week is totaly new info to me.

 

[obibobi]

Honestly, maybe it's my lack of imagination speaking, but how do you even write a fight that isn't a one shot featuring Henri ?
It's hard to imagine, I mean Sylla's dream environment allowed the developer to write a very entertaining fight where her unique powers are on display, but writing a fight where someone like Henri, with reality bending, overpowered as hell power seems very hard to imagine to me.

I mean how does someone with abilities based in the physical realm even counter reality bending ?

Being OP is one part of it, but it's the lack of identity that's the big issue which is why I think it's a bad idea when people hope the MC will be able to copy powers, because at that point they will lose their identity, they lose a recognisable way of fighting, it just becomes whatever.

You can do a good fight with a reality warper maybe once or twice, Henri's opponent is too strong to be affected directly so more abstract things happen like air turning to acid, the ground into liquid mercury, buildings turning into golems, etc. Just make it about the spectacle, but without their own identity repeated fights with that type of character just become noise.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Being OP is one part of it, but it's the lack of identity that's the big issue which is why I think it's a bad idea when people hope the MC will be able to copy powers, because at that point they will lose their identity, they lose a recognisable way of fighting, it just becomes whatever.

You can do a good fight with a reality warper maybe once or twice, Henri's opponent is too strong to be affected directly so more abstract things happen like air turning to acid, the ground into liquid mercury, buildings turning into golems, etc. Just make it about the spectacle, but without their own identity repeated fights with that type of character just become noise.

I agree. Good narrative tension is built on expectation, on having ideas of how the story could go that are either validated or subverted. If anything can happen, then you can't have that expectation. All the tension you can have is "if this character who can do anything ever unleashes their full power, it's going to be awesome". And that's something you can only pay off on once.

I wouldn't be surprised if Henri actually dies after having his big moment of using his full power. He's been dropping a ton of death flags with his comments about being humanity never falling so long as it has him. And if he dies, then it handily solves the problem of repeat performances from him being less impressive. With his established poor control over his powers it would even make sense for him to put too much stress on himself from using his full strength and kill himself in the process.

 

[Nexum768]

Results came in ages ago, but I forgot to post them, so here you go.

Gender Bender - 109

Maledom - 26

Trap - 12

Monster - 105

Futa - 40

Looks like Gender Bender wins, good work, it's been a bit.

As a side note, my power is back on at my house, so I've been back at work. Update might still come march, maybe.

Anyway, that's it, see ya.


Poll results if no one's posted them already

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Being OP is one part of it, but it's the lack of identity that's the big issue which is why I think it's a bad idea when people hope the MC will be able to copy powers, because at that point they will lose their identity, they lose a recognisable way of fighting, it just becomes whatever.

You can do a good fight with a reality warper maybe once or twice, Henri's opponent is too strong to be affected directly so more abstract things happen like air turning to acid, the ground into liquid mercury, buildings turning into golems, etc. Just make it about the spectacle, but without their own identity repeated fights with that type of character just become noise.

Mmm, I think its still possible to make such fights interesting. It's like writing fights for Superman. It's less about the strict win/lose, and more about "which fight does he take first", "Is he being drawn away from other people who need help", "what will happen in a war of attrition or guerilla tactics"

 

[Nooberplays]

Ww already confirmed Jake to be the protag of superhuman 2

ah hell nah, he has one of the most op powers yet still lost to a regular human.

 

[Nooberplays]

Mmm, I think its still possible to make such fights interesting. It's like writing fights for Superman. It's less about the strict win/lose, and more about "which fight does he take first", "Is he being drawn away from other people who need help", "what will happen in a war of attrition or guerilla tactics"

Thats nice and all, but i just want some ooga booga explosions

 

[Dayswithoutincident69]

I just hope michael finds a way to come down from there

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[hsuaisbsjsh]

I wish we could fuck more guy characters

 

[shujuku]

I wish we could fuck more guy characters

I've seen gay parades straighter than this.