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To ad to this:

The "something else too" could be the Great Ocean connecting to both the twins.
Before leaving, Tanos said that they should rest to fully form the link between them. Maybe this is happening now, and this is them linking to the GO and, since they're twins with a shared connection, they could be having a type of "trance", with their powers going off to try and save them (akin to MCs regeneration that, even if he doesn't want, try to put him back together).
Yeah, the most bizarre thing that came to my mind is Mc conecting to this "something else", because what happened to him in this scene resembles a lot how he absorbed memories from the paths, but that would mean connecting to something as powerful as the apostles.
So the ultra tinfoil hat theory is, that was Mc connecting to Great Ocean inconciously through his link with the twins, but if that is the case the he shoul have his power increased at the moment too right ?
Even though the twins connecting to great Ocean at the moment is already crazy enough.
 
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Yeah, the most bizarre thing that came to my mind is Mc conecting to this "something else", because what happened to him in this scene resembles a lot how he absorbed memories from the paths, but that would mean connecting to something as powerful as the apostles.
So the ultra tinfoil hat theory is, that was Mc connecting to Great Ocean inconciously through his link with the twins, but if that is the case the he shoul have his power increased at the moment too right ?
Even though the twins connecting to great Ocean at the moment is already crazy enough.
It doesn't need to fully a full connection to the being.

Remember, it took him not only time but help from Syla and, indirect, from Shen. Without them, he probably wouldn't have connected to them, or at least not so early.

When connecting to the Apostles, he had Syla guiding and explaining them, and a full on link to each of them with prior knowledge (even the more distant paths). Here, not only is he stressed, tired and God knows what else, but he is having the shock of seen Liz's head; not to mention the flashbacks and emotions going through him right now.

Even if he tried to connect unknowingly, seen her like that drove him completely off immediately.


Also, something i remembered now. When MC enters Valravn cell w/Lexi for the first time (after the Battle), he gets a little dizzy when his powers start to deplete. This is a bit of a stretch, but it could be a similar reaction to having your powers sucked out. Honestly, thats my favorite theory so far.
 

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Yeah, gotta admit WW giving Jared literal plot armor was pretty funny. But yeah, gotta let MC fuck up some actual scumbags
 

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Ok, so i don't want to read any spoilers for the game, but last update left me feeling uncomfortable and i don't want to sour on this game just cause it invokes certain feelings at times, so all i want to know is, are the twins ok after this update or should i wait till the next one?
 
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Ok, so i don't want to read any spoilers for the game, but last update left me feeling uncomfortable and i don't want to sour on this game just cause it invokes certain feelings at times, so all i want to know is, are the twins ok after this update or should i wait till the next one?
its unclear but i would wait.
[edit: quick heads up though, the next update might take a bit longer to come out]
 
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Ok, so i don't want to read any spoilers for the game, but last update left me feeling uncomfortable and i don't want to sour on this game just cause it invokes certain feelings at times, so all i want to know is, are the twins ok after this update or should i wait till the next one?
Around 90% sure Amber is gonna be fine, Very unsure about Liz but I doubt anything bad is gonna happen without giving you any agency/choice. Probably should wait for next update though.
 

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Around 90% sure Amber is gonna be fine, Very unsure about Liz but I doubt anything bad is gonna happen without giving you any agency/choice. Probably should wait for next update though.
I'm quoting you since you are the last one to mention it. But why do people think that Amber is going to somehow be fine when Cole says that he killed both?

Is it denial or there is an actual reason? There is nothing in this scene suggesting that's the case. Unless you strictly talk about the immediate future.
I mean sure, if I try I can find 2 reasons why she may have more chances to survive
1. Based on the PoV and some things Tanos says, she probably has taken better to her powers.
2. Liz would be willing to sacrifice herself for a small chance to save Amber

But these are thin as fuck when a level 3 wants to kill you and says that he did so.
 
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I'm quoting you since you are the last one to mention it. But why do people think that Amber is going to somehow be fine when Cole says that he killed both?

Is it denial or there is an actual reason? There is nothing in this scene suggesting that's the case.
I mean sure, if I try I can find 2 reasons why she may have more chances to survive
1. Based on the PoV and some things Tanos says, she probably has taken better to her powers.
2. Liz would be willing to sacrifice herself for a small chance to save Amber

But these are thin as fuck when a level 3 wants to kill you and says that he did so.
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bold move but wonder if the creator has the integrity to keep her dead or she just going regenerate her body back in the next update.
Man we have seen how superhumans can survive through a lot.
I don't rly think she is dead.
Maybe like Laurie we'll have the option to save her or let her die and like it was hinted with Bailey. There is a chance MC will play a role in her survival (yk when she (Bailey) said "I'm sure you'll be able to make a body for me" or smt). Maybe regen her and just a theory I have but we didn't see Amber so she is prbbly alive (atleast I don't remember the mention of her being dead but correct me if I'm wrong) and MAYBE their link is keeping liz alive. And who knows, It can be one of their characteristics to not die unless they both are.

I don't think it's that far fetched of an idea. So don't feel offended if I "copied" you, I didn't. I just don't read every comment on the thread. (Just taking safety measures lol)

[EDIT] Reading the 2 comments up there... I kinda agree with this point...
1. Based on the PoV and some things Tanos says, she probably has taken better to her powers.
I think she'll play a key role in the keeping alive part.

Guys, I think we forget that this is a choice based game. There will be a path where they die (one fo them or both) and another one where they'll survive prbbly depending on your stats and choices like with Laurie, maybe even the relationsip points will play a part in it.
Thinking abt it, Deryl with his philosopher stone coupled with MC's power have the potential to do smt



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Ok so trying to get everything about the scene
The mc enters the room and it's normal, then it gets red and we hear a heartbeat, his own heart jumps crashing against his ribcage the moment he enters, the room is cold like he just entered a freezer.
There is someone in the room filled with anger and power "and something else too"
Mc smashes the room open and Cole is backwards, we hear a heartbeat again, the red returns to the room and we hear the sound of a power being used, the same we hear when a mind power is used, Mc seems to feel pain being affected by this power "my brain splits i feel dizzy". He wonders if it's the memories or the drugs he feels sick, very sick and almost bends and vomits.
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Man we have seen how superhumans can survive through a lot.
I don't rly think she is dead.
Maybe like Laurie we'll have the option to save her or let her die and like it was hinted with Bailey. There is a chance MC will play a role in her survival (yk when she (Bailey) said "I'm sure you'll be able to make a body for me" or smt). Maybe regen her and just a theory I have but we didn't see Amber so she is prbbly alive (atleast I don't remember the mention of her being dead but correct me if I'm wrong) and MAYBE their link is keeping liz alive. And who knows, It can be one of their characteristics to not die unless they both are.

I don't think it's that far fetched of an idea. So don't feel offended if I "copied" you, I didn't. I just don't read every comment on the thread. (Just taking safety measures lol)

[EDIT] Reading the 2 comments up there... I kinda agree with this point...

I think she'll play a key role in the keeping alive part.

Guys, I think we forget that this is a choice based game. There will be a path where they die (one fo them or both) and another one where they'll survive prbbly depending on your stats and choices like with Laurie, maybe even the relationsip points will play a part in it.
Thinking abt it, Deryl with his philosopher stone coupled with MC's power have the potential to do smt



THX
not to mention MC also have started to train with having part of his body not melt when disconnected from him so if Liz is gonna survive I think that may have something to do with it. I also got the feeling with the way the doctor spoke that maybe liz and amber would get put together and share 1 bod. but all we can do is wait for the next update to come
 
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Maaaaan, yiu guys are rly smt. I didn't even think much of it. I was just like, oh maybe he is seeing the scene from the outside (3pt of view, he refuses to believe it then he is hit with the fatality) bc of the trauma. Lol, I'm sooo far from the truth it seems.
Great analyze you do guys keep up the good work I love it.


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My headcanon of MC vs Cole:

MC will at beginning beat the shit of Cole because of his anger, Cole will use his new weapon but depending on our skill level we will be equal or start losing, Liz or Amber will try using something against Cole, but will not be that effective. This will get MC attention to them, making Cole see the opening. Depending on our power level we can overpower him and have the option to eat him for good or get Liz and Amber out of there fast. If you don't have the power level Cole will give you a last blow while you are busy with the twins and he flees.
 
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My headcanon of MC vs Cole:

MC will at beginning beat the shit of Cole because of his anger, Cole will use his new weapon but depending on our skill level we will be equal or start losing, Liz or Amber will try using something against Cole, but will not be that effective. This will get MC attention to them, making Cole see the opening. Depending on our power level we can overpower him and have the option to eat him for good or get Liz and Amber out of there fast. If you don't have the power level Cole will give you a last blow while you are busy with the twins and he flees.
WW is the only developer on this game. We won't have splitting paths where one leads to Cole dying and the other leads to him getting away. That would create too large of a difference in the storyline where it would essentially be writing two games for future development.
The only way that could work out is if Cole ran away and never came back, which I doubt would end up happening.
 

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That is an interesting intake, some thoughts on it:

1. The knife absorbing heat is a good explanation since none of Cole's powers until now even gave a hint of not being heat based, someone mentioned how it could be simply because the place is kinda of a morgue so preserving the bodies with low temperature makes sense.

2. As for affecting Mc making him feel sick seems more of a strech, Michael does that with his powers (as far as i rememeber not just while using his crimsom knife) but is very especific to him, sure Tanos could have made Cole's knife with the same effect but nothing indicates that at least for me so i will just keep my mind open.

3. Evolutions are usually VERY bombastic, i mean Jake's was more internal and subtle but he is a mind based superhuman, with Cole being fire based i would expect something much more flashy. Him trembling doesn't seem enough to be sure its because of evolution.
It could be many things, him remebering the fear he felt during his own time as a lab rat, a hint of emotion after killing people that were just like him, being excited to finally get his new weapon, or even feeling cold inside that freezer, all those seem more reasonable as explanations than an evolution.
In fact i think it would be more appropriate for Cole to evolve during his fight against Mc, even more because Deryl will join and Mc can heal Michael and Alice easily to join too.

4. Mc was unable to feel the apostles during Michael and Tifanny second evolution, until he touched Michael directly just to be expelled right away by Power, i assume he is better now after the paths and his reaction does remind the effects of absorbing the apostles memories so i will hold that thought.
We know Great Ocean from the twins infection, we don't know whatever Cole would connect with, though in terms of link i would say that at the moment the affection Mc feels for the twins is comparable to the hatred he feels for Cole, i say this because to me none would be priority for an inconscious link to form, Mc is all about instinct, he learned to form links to higher powers with Syla so now i wouldn't be surprised if he could do the same by instinct.

5. I agree that the twins affecting Mc normally wouldn't make sense, the only explanation to me is the Strenght Eater trait, Malik was held for a good chunk of time by them, there was a lot in play but given the circunstance i expect a lvl 1 spawn of them to be able to affect a lvl 3 even if just a little.

6. Apostles can be protective of the spawns they think are promising, so Great Ocean being pissed and making his presence know seems reasonable.

7. Cole appearance being the same is also a good reason to doubt an evolution, Shen is also one of the orphans and he changed a lot, though that's not a rule at all.

8. I don't even think it would be a premature evolution for the twins considering the timeframe of others, what i would consider is if the requirements for the special twin evolution were met, Tanos didn't say anything about it specifically but i think he implied they should be alone for the "link" to form, if Great Ocean did in fact decide to make an appearance i would say the chances are good.
 
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