VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[weezal]

The idea of surpassing the other Shapeshifters is a good way to approach this. Obviously we aren't talking about Power, but of abilities that others can't even dream of doing.
Of course we don't have many Shapeshifters to observe, it's just Ella really and we can't be sure if she is that good with the trait, especially if she was supposed to be a failed half-half.

These are some of my ideas, you will notice that a lot of them are similar to the Creation trait:
We learned that the Dream World is the domain of certain traits. 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 10th and 12th. One interesting thing to note here, is that the "physical" Superhumans, tend to be more powerful than MC. For example, MC has weakness against energy based attacks (radiation and plasma stop his regeneration, electricity fucks him up, etc), Space powers can output a lot more force than he can (Alice can throw as powerful attacks at level 2, as MC can at level 3), Light is just too fast for him to contain, Truth has ranged physical attacks (like Eisheth's telekinesis which can crush him and limit his regeneration), Destruction just destroys his body on contact. Perhaps by leveraging the Immaterial, he can create intangible forms that are resistant or even immune to various physical attacks. And even if that's not possible, perhaps he can reach out and physically attack someone through the Dream World, overcoming resistances and damaging aspects of them that wouldn't be possible otherwise (similar to how Deus attacks can sever connections).

- So the first differentiation is that MC is capable of thriving in the Immaterial Planes as a Shapeshifter which may allow him to overcome his weaknesses against physical attacks, or bypass resistances that would normally counter him.

Memory is good at knowing.. pretty much everything. As long as MC can mimick something with his form, he should be able to be as good at using it, as the creature he took the form from. He can also use memories from other organisms to boost the output of the special abilities. We've already seen this happening, but sadly there aren't many Supernatural things with non-magical abilities we can observe. An example would be to combine the Eel form with the Leigong form in order to use the Leigong's crystals to channel electricity better. Or to find a monster with toxic blood and turn his own blood into a Supernatural poison that harms anyone who attacks him in melee.

- So the second differentiation is that MC can integrate any structure, no matter how exotic, in his form, and instictively know how to use it. Due to this he can mix and match ordinary and supernatural anatomy to boost the effects of new abilities, without the need to have the relevant Supernatural trait.

Right now MC feeds Memories to his tails to make them autonomous. I wonder how far he could take this idea. For example, feeding Memories to each strand of his hair. This isn't much, but consider what would happen if MC took a huge and abstract form. How would he command it? Every time we see MC turn into Giant, no matter the circumstances, he turns into a dumb pugilist and he is very slow. If on the other hand, his giant form was covered by sentient tentacles, then he could fight any enemy at any level. He could brawl the big monster, while his tentacles fight the smaller ones.

- So the third differentation is that MC can give commands to even his more abstract forms, offloading the mental load to sentient appendages that can do the fighting for him.

If MC has the potential to load memories into his constructs, and manage to combine this with persisted constructs disconnected from his body (like Ella taught him), then he can mimic the creation trait, creating sentient monsters with whatever memories he wants. He can also take it a step further and create things like virus, bacteria, parasites etc. He can invade other organisms and destroy them from within using poisons or even by delivering False Memories through these organisms, in a sense creating puppets of the infected.

- So the fourth differentiation is that he can combine Memory with the latest ability he learned from Ella, to create autonomous constructs, to various effects, from minions, to making puppets out of other enemies or attacking them from withing. All these constructs will have a certain autonomy, so MC will never have to mentally load himself controlling them.

Up till now, all these should technically be possible as they are already part of his powers. Perhaps the immaterial ideas are not fully possible, but at the very least there exists a possibility for alternative ways for MC to deal some damage.

But what about stealing Powers from other Supernatural organisms? I will assume that Xanthe is correct in that MC's powers will weaken if he transforms his lifeforce to mimick someone else's power. But there still exists a way for him to use it without compromising anything. By making constructs in advance and persisting them through the ability that Ella taught him.

So while it may not be a good idea to transform into a Fire Superhuman midfight, he can create a Fire-based Construct a week in advance, pouring all his power into it, and when he needs to fight, he will have a minion that is loaded with almost all his power to fight alongside him.

- So the fifth differentiation is the MC has the potential to create constructs that can use traits from other lines to assist him in combat or other tasks. The constructs will be complete, with the correct memories to use the powers efficiently, and with enough Power to match MC himself as there isn't any risk in pouring all his Power into them since he will have time to rest and regain it.

All very interesting and viable ideas. I find the immaterial idea to be particularly intriguing. Val can negate all non-physical attacks so perhaps it would be possible for something to negate all physical attacks.

 

[weezal]

is it just me or does anyone else want mc do fuck his mother, a lil incest action going on. no just me, really wish it would happen though just saying. cant help myself, i love futanari the most and incest[mother son the most] is in second place and if they are combined its even better. only in porn though not in real life incest i mean.

 

[Krytax123]

All very interesting and viable ideas. I find the immaterial idea to be particularly intriguing. Val can negate all non-physical attacks so perhaps it would be possible for something to negate all physical attacks.

Didn’t Ella kinda already did that against Malik and Nico or what’s different about the idea you’re talking about?

It feels like it could be a ability which could be further enhanced (being able to move for example)

 

[JmTrad]

For the next step I think it would be MC surpassing all other shapeshifters. As Xanthe mentioned earlier in the game shapeshifters can recreate the structure of something (superhuman or monster) but they're missing the supernatural aspect. From this I suspect MC will eventually be able to manipulate this supernatural side, fully recreating something along with their abilities. We've already seen the MC connect in some way to all 12 of the apostles so I think it wouldn't be too far fetched for MC to start to incorporate them into him. Literally evolving.

I like your idea. It makes sense and a reason why Ella consider herself a failure. MC since level 1 had something Ella didn't had, and she would kill for it, literally. When she evolved to level 5 and didn't got it feels like she kinda gave up and MC was not in risk anymore to be killed by her for "telling too much". And i also think it fits this other comment:

This could be because of how MC was "evolving" his traits. I think Drako said said something like this: MC had evolved far into his Body trait (his 2 Evo only had Body powers basically), neglecting his Memory (which, by his own admission, was more difficult to train).
So, at that point, he had a Body lvl 2 and Memory lvl 1; after his 3rd Evo, he became a Body 3 and a Memory 2. He may need to reach a full Memory 3 (which may already happened after the training with Mom) to fully complete the two.
His 4th Evo could also be the game changer, where the two (now fully integrated in his being) finally complete eachother.

We don't know much about Ella, only that she relly almost 100% on Body, and her Memory powers are incomplete compared to MC. I would guess she is level 5 Body and level 2 (incomplete) Memory. Very unbalanced.

 

[SquallofNight]

We don't know much about Ella, only that she relly almost 100% on Body, and her Memory powers are incomplete compared to MC. I would guess she is level 5 Body and level 2 (incomplete) Memory. Very unbalanced.

I would agree, but have we actually seem Ella use any abilities that could be considered Memory? Like, even her eyes are something her Body made. 'Cause from what we've seen, i think she doesn't have ANY Memory power in her.

 

[weezal]

Didn’t Ella kinda already did that against Malik and Nico or what’s different about the idea you’re talking about?

It feels like it could be a ability which could be further enhanced (being able to move for example)

I forgot about that tbh good point

 

[JmTrad]

I would agree, but have we actually seem Ella use any abilities that could be considered Memory? Like, even her eyes are something her Body made. 'Cause from what we've seen, i think she doesn't have ANY Memory power in her.

I thought her "eyes" had something to do with Memory, but now that you pointed it could have been made with Body... I'm downgrading her to level 1 (incomplete) Memory.

I really believe she have at least power to read people memories, probably even that is weaker than MC and she can see very little, so she uses the eyes to "keep an eye" on them lol.

What about her ability to read the power of people, would fall into Body or Memory? MC at least can know when his own power increases (he said his mind receives a notification or something) but Alice said she can't.

 

[Misalton]

If I had a gun and two bullets with the two of them in front of me, I'd shoot Xj twice just to make sure. Cole is pathetic and virtually irrelevant in comparison, either he can be flipped or mostly ignored but either way he's a minor player that is getting way more attention than he's worth. There's no purpose in going so hard against a pissant when there are real problems to deal with first.

I agree with you. Doesn't mean you shouldn't beat Cole with gun handle.

 

[SquallofNight]

What about her ability to read the power of people, would fall into Body or Memory? MC at least can know when his own power increases (he said his mind receives a notification or something) but Alice said she can't.

That's her eye tinkering too. Tanos comments on this to Liz and Amber when they ask how he knows their compatibility and all that (he says something akin to "this eye was made with data from his dear Ella"). I would guess it's something like the visors S.I.N. agents use.

 

[Yopi Tsuki]

Hi,
Updated my Android Port to 0.982
https://thef95zone.info/threads/superhuman-v0-982-weirdworld.74436/post-12157605

 

[MartieCar]

What about her ability to read the power of people, would fall into Body or Memory?

When Xante Sr. was giving MC a monster heart to install in his body in order to boost his regeneration speed, he mentioned that Ella also has one and probably even more monster organs. So my guess is that at some point Ella replaced her normal eyes with the eyes of monster with power reading ability and used body skill to make them look like her normal eyes.

 

[GaRbS]

Should I play the update again after the post v0.98 fixes?

 

[Vodka10K]

When Xante Sr. was giving MC a monster heart to install in his body in order to boost his regeneration speed, he mentioned that Ella also has one and probably even more monster organs. So my guess is that at some point Ella replaced her normal eyes with the eyes of monster with power reading ability and used body skill to make them look like her normal eyes.

Now that you mention it, it is really a possibility. And damn, it would be a great for MC to get such ability, too.

 

[Gtdead]

I would agree, but have we actually seem Ella use any abilities that could be considered Memory? Like, even her eyes are something her Body made. 'Cause from what we've seen, i think she doesn't have ANY Memory power in her.

We haven't, but she probably has some small ability because she says that she "isn't that good" with it. To what extend she does.. it's probably something really basic that she can't weaponize somehow.

Genetic memory is off because her forms are too abstract/monstrous.
Memory abilities like Echo etc are off, even MC had trouble with them.
Learning from others is off, because otherwise she would just take the knowledge from her teachers.

It's possible that she has some limited ability to implant Memories.
1) Her Doll is a construct that has her personality and one of the easiest ways to do that would be through the Memory trait.
2) She decided to "show" MC how it "feels" to transmute something. This is thin, but if she has the ability to implant simple Memories, perhaps it was instinct that drove her.

Additionally she may have some affinity for the immaterial realm, being more aware when she dreams.

I thought her "eyes" had something to do with Memory, but now that you pointed it could have been made with Body... I'm downgrading her to level 1 (incomplete) Memory.

I really believe she have at least power to read people memories, probably even that is weaker than MC and she can see very little, so she uses the eyes to "keep an eye" on them lol.

What about her ability to read the power of people, would fall into Body or Memory? MC at least can know when his own power increases (he said his mind receives a notification or something) but Alice said she can't.

Her power reading ability is probably monster physiology that she implemented herself in her form by mixing and matching. So while it's facilitated by the Body, it's just an extra sense, not a power. Similar to how all the Chosen immediately know a Spawn's line.

She has other abilities too that she has attributed to her tinkering. Like improved senses and reaction times, the ability to see through walls (this may be a lie told to Jake though) etc.

 

[GodOfAll]

I wonder though, when do we get the chance to go fully off the rails. The the MC, Nodim portant, already is a immortal demigod with matter manipulation and and potential mind control abilities. I we get the choice to go full edge.

 

[SquallofNight]

I wonder though, when do we get the chance to go fully off the rails. The the MC, Nodim portant, already is a immortal demigod with matter manipulation and and potential mind control abilities. I we get the choice to go full edge.

Control minds would be more of a Jack think. HOWEVER, if you read Bleach's Fullbringer arc: there's a character there named Shūkurō Tsukishima, his powers allow him to basically alter the past of the target (at least, in the memory state); that way, he can make someone think he's their best friend, or that he saved their lives, etc.
With the False Memory that Syla taught us, this could probably evolve in the future to something on Tsukishima's lvl.

 

[MrFranky26]

With the False Memory that Syla taught us, this could probably evolve in the future to something on Tsukishima's lvl.

For this, mc need ability to erase\block memories and mixed with implant it will be brainwash. Also it will be harder to make, then jake ability, who just make a command\order and his power do all small details automaticly. If mc not do it right, it will be nullified or target would be brain damaged. Probably just to much train is needed for what + morality problem (doubt ww will waste so much time on just what path). Our mc is more straightforward type, then manipulative one in my perspective.

With False memory mc probably should be rdy to implant and awoke some intense pain\fear memoires even now for stun\imbolize. Later on if get block\erase, he can disrupt enemy movement when they forgeting what they do in the middle of the fight (even second or two would be enough). Can brain damage enemys with big erases and i doubt it will be easy nullified even in time if they can`t remember who they are, what their powers(if same evo\power lvl ofc). Maybe it will provoce monstrification...

Maybe mc can separate his body parts now, coz they still will be connected mentally. And with both his paths mc can help other evolves via stabelize their body and mentality.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

I feel like of the potential ways the MC could develop their memory powers, making autonomous clones of himself that function as a sort of hive mind seems like the one with the most potential, while also having the most set up of the bunch. Like, he could use his tails as extra consciousnesses that are just linked up to the big MC that can do stuff while he's out and about. The MC has already shown to be comfortable making clones of himself that are still attached by a tendril and the like, so this would be a natural evolution of that.

The only problem would be the people claiming it would be NTR.

 

[Ddlc]

I'm trying to understand something regarding Syla so what do you guys think

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[TerminusPrime]

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