VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[Simpgor]

My opinion on this is I will kill Valravn because he is still going to eat children's heart.Claire turned a monster and I didn't fuck her but I did the memory echo on her in hopes that she won't kill people but if she does and the game gives me the chance to kill her I will. As for Bailey it's pretty much the same I only left Bailey alive because she got turned and after that she barely kills if I remember correctly whereas I only killed Wang because he killed the Girl from our college I thought the bum would have atleast control himself now.All in all If it was in my hand I would give chance to all of them atleast once Wang already tried killing mc multiple times the first night the mc isn't able to sleep well because Wang keeps trying to kill him the entire night.That was his first chance the bum still couldn't resist himself.

Claire "kills every human in a 300 meter radius" with her weakest "named attack"...... she is hilariously more dangerous than Wang...She also attacked a member of MC harem instead of a nameless faceless girl.....

Valravn goes after anybody under 30(28? iirc, and is the most dangerous (beyond what the MC can handle unless he is a crippled to hell like he currently is) and unlike Wang would go after several members of the harem. However the fact that he is friends with mom (who the nameless faceless will hate because she isn't human) outweighs him eating the hearts of every faceless character.

Bailey kills an innocent male college student (with a face), or kills their family (who is even more innocent) which is the same or more than Wang does after getting out of prison..... and she also does it to "eat" like Valravn she doesn't just make it quick and painless (she has clearer memories after consuming the guy/family).

No comment on Charlie? Do you think she's going to find someone else with memories of Oscar, that has already been said to eventually be able to bring people back from the immaterial and give them real bodies? (Bailey says Syla tells her this will happen) or are you really going to revive Oscar (forced story reasons) and then murder him right in front of the little girl

Both the girls you spared are objectively (and numerically) more dangerous than Wang after prison I wonder what the difference between the three is

 

[Simpgor]

I still haven't finished the game but who's more powerful?

IMO of those listed its Valravn>>>Charlie (due to her hax power)>>Claire>>Bailey>>Oscars dead body>>>Wang

Valravn took on Ella and most (iirc all) of the "kids" at SIN at the same time and still was still strong enough after to fight MC (level 2)

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

I still haven't finished the game but who's more powerful?

Valravn, by a large margin. He's one of the strongest non-divine beings in the setting, the MC just has the good luck to have fought him when he was severely injured and weakened already. There's a conversation in the latest update that, to minimize spoilers, indicates that he's fought and killed a much more powerful shapeshifter than the MC.

 

[Sayajin2205]

Claire "kills every human in a 300 meter radius" with her weakest "named attack"...... she is hilariously more dangerous than Wang...She also attacked a member of MC harem instead of a nameless faceless girl.....

Valravn goes after anybody under 30(28? iirc, and is the most dangerous (beyond what the MC can handle unless he is a crippled to hell like he currently is) and unlike Wang would go after several members of the harem. However the fact that he is friends with mom (who the nameless faceless will hate because she isn't human) outweighs him eating the hearts of every faceless character.

Bailey kills an innocent male college student (with a face), or kills their family (who is even more innocent) which is the same or more than Wang does after getting out of prison..... and she also does it to "eat" like Valravn she doesn't just make it quick and painless (she has clearer memories after consuming the guy/family).

No comment on Charlie? Do you think she's going to find someone else with memories of Oscar, that has already been said to eventually be able to bring people back from the immaterial and give them real bodies? (Bailey says Syla tells her this will happen) or are you really going to revive Oscar (forced story reasons) and then murder him right in front of the little girl

Both the girls you spared are objectively (and numerically) more dangerous than Wang after prison I wonder what the difference between the three is

It wasn't about who is more dangerous for me my guy .If it was there would be no second chances as a lot of people would be needed to get eliminated.It's about second chances you know Claire was a full monster and as I said doing the memory echo was her second chance imo I will kill her if somehow the games shows her again alive and being full feral ,I will kill Valravn the first chance I get if the game allows it .Also Claire killing people in the 300 m radius is just her using a single attack but anyways as I said it wasn't about the most dangerous it was more about the principle of the things you feel me.Ome chance to redeem after that it's killing time.That is my take on it also I will kill Ella the first chance I get unless something major happens where she does some great good work lol.I had no comment on Charlie because I really don't have much opinion on her she is like what 16 I think and trying to bring back her brother but If she fucks over the mc one more time I might just kill her but still not sure about her.As I said before my opinion was based on the principle of things not on how dangerous it is Valravn might be the only character I truly hate lol Crow goes around eating children's heart lol.

 

[Simpgor]

Valravn might be the only character I truly hate lol Crow goes around eating children's heart lol.

You are a true hero.

Meanwhile me: I'll sacrifice every faceless character to give any named character +1 power

 

[Sayajin2205]

You are a true hero.

Meanwhile me: I'll sacrifice every faceless character to give any named character +1 power

My corruption route has some kills but only the justified ones lol but I haven't done one full zero corruption route I always end up killing the guy who had kidnapped Liz so it gives me one corruption and also saving Bailey. So yeah I get 2 corruption in my main playthrough.

 

[Dipasimaan]

Honestly, it seems like what I said without too much weight really got extrapulated and used to simply fuel a stupid argument. Mind you that I call it stupid just because it's extremely subjective and it doesn't even have a "correct" answer so it shouldn't even be an argument.
Btw I don't want to quote every post or guy that participated in this discussion so I'll just say what I simply meant:
Suicide Wang deserves death more than Valravn do (imo of course), considering the fact that he just wants to chill with his progenitor and he gotta eat hearts otherwise he dies. The whole point of "oh no, this motherfucking maneater monster eats man, he must be really bad and naughty, he shall die!" is really fucking stupid because he gotta eat and that is his diet, like most of the monsters'. It's like us humans having to eat meat from other "inferior" beings to survive.
Suicide Wang instead killed several people (don't remember how many) just because, I get that he may be depressed and mad that his wife or girlfriend or whtever died but that's not really a reason to "suicide" people and btw he too targets young people too, like that college gal.
I have to say that I still would kill Valvran, not because he's a "bad guy" but because if he dies it's because he got into a fight and he lost and that is one of the many reasons for why he's really respected among the community, the honour.
Claire too, she's just a monster at that point so she should die so others humans don't die no?
Wrong argument for the same reasons as Valvran's.
If some monster tries to kill you, even if former human, you gotta kill it in self-defense no? Of course you have to, otherwise you die, but if you have the possibility of restoring her sanity so she doesn't have to do instinctive things then why shouldn't you? Obv if you find out that she kills again for the sake of it you gotta kill her if she's a danger to you or your closest one

Sorry for the wall of text

 

[Simpgor]

My corruption route has some kills but only the justified ones lol but lol I haven't done one full zero corruption route I always end up killing the guy who had kidnapped Liz so it gives me one corruption and also saving Bailey. So yeah I get 2 corruption in my main playthrough.

My only real playthrough is at 7?

1 for the thugs I think (needed to get to 100 power for deryl)
1 for eating bailey
5 for eating dream monsters with Micheal because homies over purity

Realistically as of now I've never triggered a high corruption scene and the checks are up in the 20s now so unless there is a check for a 0 specifically I'm still on the "pure/skill path" technically

Honestly, it seems like what I said without too much weight really got extrapulated and used to simply fuel a stupid argument. Mind you that I call it stupid just because it's extremely subjective and it doesn't even have a "correct" answer so it shouldn't even be an argument.
Btw I don't want to quote every post or guy that participated in this discussion so I'll just say what I simply meant:
Suicide Wang deserves death more than Valravn do (imo of course), considering the fact that he just wants to chill with his progenitor and he gotta eat hearts
Suicide Wang instead killed several people (don't remember how many) just because, I get that he may be depressed and mad that his wife or girlfriend or whtever died but that's not really a reason to "suicide" people and btw he too targets young people too, like that college gal.
I have to say that I still would kill Valvran, not because he's a "bad guy" but because if he dies it's because he got into a fight and he lost
Claire too, she's just a monster at that point so she should die so others humans don't die no?
Wrong argument for the same reasons as Valvran's.
If some monster tries to kill you, even if former human, you gotta kill it in self-defense no?

Big agree on the Valravn points humans eat beef (including hearts) and even veal (young cows). They can feel pain and fear just like humans but that sure as shit doesn't stop us nor should it stop Valravn. But since MC fought him while heavily crippled I can't really say I agree with the "death due to honour", and technically the MC doesn't canonically beat him honorably since it's variable based.

I was more poking fun at sayajin for forgiving "coz tiddies" because I think by "hero/self preservation/good of humans" logic you should let bailey be called away and kill Claire.

You don't "need" to go after someone who tries to kill you (deryl) and Wangs ONLY weapon are random shanks he can find....dude is still in his fucking BRIGHT jumpsuit can't even go into the store and steal a knife because clearly he's an escaped convict

Begrudging people for killing Wang is a meme but one that illicts a decent response it seems

 

[Dipasimaan]

My only real playthrough is at 7?

1 for the thugs I think (needed to get to 100 power for deryl)
1 for eating bailey
5 for eating dream monsters with Micheal because homies over purity

Realistically as of now I've never triggered a high corruption scene and the checks are up in the 20s now so unless there is a check for a 0 specifically I'm still on the "pure/skill path" technically



Big agree on the Valravn points humans eat beef (including hearts) and even veal (young cows). They can feel pain and fear just like humans but that sure as shit doesn't stop us nor should it stop Valravn. But since MC fought him while heavily crippled I can't really say I agree with the "death due to honour", and technically the MC doesn't canonically beat him honorably since it's variable based.

I was more poking fun at sayajin for forgiving "coz tiddies" because I think by "hero/self preservation/good of humans" logic you should let bailey be called away and kill Claire.

You don't "need" to go after someone who tries to kill you (deryl) and Wangs ONLY weapon are random shanks he can find....dude is still in his fucking BRIGHT jumpsuit can't even go into the store and steal a knife because clearly he's an escaped convict

Begrudging people for killing Wang is a meme but one that illicts a decent response it seems

Ok fine, sorry if I misunderstood you, I was firstly just showstruck at how a discussion over that wimp of Wang was going on for over 2 days.
Btw for Valvran I was talking about a possible future rematch with maybe a full-power Val.
Obviously the first encounter doesn't really count apart from Val's mentality as he still gave his all in that form even if he was clearly weakened.
I mean, he sure isn't a sore loser, how can you not respect it?

 

[Sayajin2205]

Honestly, it seems like what I said without too much weight really got extrapulated and used to simply fuel a stupid argument. Mind you that I call it stupid just because it's extremely subjective and it doesn't even have a "correct" answer so it shouldn't even be an argument.
Btw I don't want to quote every post or guy that participated in this discussion so I'll just say what I simply meant:
Suicide Wang deserves death more than Valravn do (imo of course), considering the fact that he just wants to chill with his progenitor and he gotta eat hearts otherwise he dies. The whole point of "oh no, this motherfucking maneater monster eats man, he must be really bad and naughty, he shall die!" is really fucking stupid because he gotta eat and that is his diet, like most of the monsters'. It's like us humans having to eat meat from other "inferior" beings to survive.
Suicide Wang instead killed several people (don't remember how many) just because, I get that he may be depressed and mad that his wife or girlfriend or whtever died but that's not really a reason to "suicide" people and btw he too targets young people too, like that college gal.
I have to say that I still would kill Valvran, not because he's a "bad guy" but because if he dies it's because he got into a fight and he lost and that is one of the many reasons for why he's really respected among the community, the honour.
Claire too, she's just a monster at that point so she should die so others humans don't die no?
Wrong argument for the same reasons as Valvran's.
If some monster tries to kill you, even if former human, you gotta kill it in self-defense no? Of course you have to, otherwise you die, but if you have the possibility of restoring her sanity so she doesn't have to do instinctive things then why shouldn't you? Obv if you find out that she kills again for the sake of it you gotta kill her if she's a danger to you or your closest one

Sorry for the wall of text

Agree with everything by that Valravn one because human eats beef sure I agree but the mcand me are human/superhuman so yeah him killing my kin will get his ass killed especially as he eats children other than that tho I agree because Claire simply like other monster is feral so if we can help her by doing the memory echo why not give her chance but Valravn as stated is atleast has human level intelligence so I am stomping him when I get the chance and like you said it's subjective.Justblike Valravn doesn't give a fuck about killing the humans I wouldn't give a fuck about killing him as he is the one of the few from monster with intelligence other monsters still get leeway as they are feral.

 

[Dipasimaan]

Agree with everything by that Valravn one because human eats beef sure I agree but the mcand me are human/superhuman so yeah him killing my kin will get his ass killed especially as he eats children other than that tho I agree because Claire simply like other monster is feral so if we can help her by doing the memory echo why not give her chance but Valravn as stated is atleast has human level intelligence so I am stomping him when I get the chance and like you said it's subjective.Justblike Valravn doesn't give a fuck about killing the humans I wouldn't give a fuck about killing him as he is the one of the few from monster with intelligence other monsters still get leeway as they are feral.

 

[Camrontheuser]

You do you man, but personally if someone tries to kill me he's put on the "must die" list. Suicide Wang even tried it more than once

By that logic Daryll should not be alive in your run.

 

[Simpgor]

By that logic Daryll should not be alive in your run.

Surely 2/3rds of deryl shouldn't be as Del and the clone (as human and monster) 100% tried to kill MC, and Del was thinking "clearly" the whole time and monster deryl was thinking clearly at the end but kept fighting

 

[FakeTemplar]

You do you man, but personally if someone tries to kill me he's put on the "must die" list. Suicide Wang even tried it more than once

While I don't really like Suicide Bro, I'll have to be honest and say that it doesn't seem like he's really trying to kill the MC. Maybe the first time yeah but he clearly sees the MC shrugging of the stabs, instantly healing, backhanding him across the cell and he still tried it until he got out of shivs. Dude is just genuinely fucked in the head, but it doesn't seem like attempted murder at that point.

 

[SquallofNight]

Can't MC just make a heart (or take his out, since it'll grow back again), infuse it with a LOT of power (so it doesn't melt right away) and give it to Ravenboy to eat and recover? That way, he doesn't need to feed on kids and we can work together without much fuss about it, since he seemed keen on us joining him during the dream.
Hell, MC can even turn into a child before giving his heart so it tastes better.

 

[Camrontheuser]

Surely 2/3rds of deryl shouldn't be as Del and the clone (as human and monster) 100% tried to kill MC, and Del was thinking "clearly" the whole time and monster deryl was thinking clearly at the end but kept fighting

What about the fight with Jake, when we just found out that he was brainwashed.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Can't MC just make a heart (or take his out, since it'll grow back again), infuse it with a LOT of power (so it doesn't melt right away) and give it to Ravenboy to eat and recover? That way, he doesn't need to feed on kids and we can work together without much fuss about it, since he seemed keen on us joining him during the dream.
Hell, MC can even turn into a child before giving his heart so it tastes better.

He's not gonna fuck you dude

 

[JmTrad]

MC still had a life prior to the game and he consider Derly a friend even after all that. That's why we never had a option to kill him.

Jake was just a new guy we met, so MC could say "fuck it it's meal time"

 

[Gambit33]

By that logic Daryll should not be alive in your run.

If I had the option to kill off that pathetic wasted character, I would have.

 

[Ddlc]

Can't MC just make a heart (or take his out, since it'll grow back again), infuse it with a LOT of power (so it doesn't melt right away) and give it to Ravenboy to eat and recover? That way, he doesn't need to feed on kids and we can work together without much fuss about it, since he seemed keen on us joining him during the dream.
Hell, MC can even turn into a child before giving his heart so it tastes better.

Honestly one of the main reasons monsters are in conflict with humanity (at least the low ranks) is because they eat people, then we have Mc who can solve solve global monster hunger by giving them a lot of flesh to eat, and he is not even the best at that, Deryl and Devana can literaly make stuff out of thin air, a human heart is probably not the most difficult thing for then.
I can see Mc keeping Bailey in check just by giving her body parts to eat, also i think it was Cole who said Mc would become a heart dispenser to Val if Ella and her kids didn't beat him before.