RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.79] [Fujino]

[4-kun]

Definitely agree anything that happens now would not be believable. Maybe everything up to the Treehouse event was still believable but everything afterwards is so just random. Still can't believe Asuna just gave a blowjob at the camping event with no buildup despite it being one of her biggest taboos. I think everyone is getting tired of this story. As long as Fujino can give a satisfying conclusion, we can move on and remember fondly how great the game was.

Yeah, it feels like before the treehouse event, every story part was better planned and executed. But since he was basically forced to rewrite the story, including implementing the treehouse event earlier than initially planned, things started to get really messy and inconsistent, leaving quite a few plot holes.

 

[timurotbasaroglu]

I think most people would like to see an endless first part(and the beginning of the second part). Asuna constantly gets into situations with aphrodisiac, pollen, loss of consciousness - Inoda uses it more and more (but slowly) increasing the pressure, but Kirito does not understand anything. In principle, they can be understood, I'm also a little disappointed that only Kirito has NTR left in the game, and even then only with Liz. The game has moved to a new stage, where Asuna is a willing cheater and not everyone likes it.

Willing cheater is not a bad thing, but the problem is characters are not suitable for that and story is a bad written one for that. Like Inoda, a character who even can't run properly fatso being a sex-god with unlimited stamina (because of big dick and reading too much about sex... like, really?) being the one stealing main heroine, or Kirito which we thought at first that he is just classic mini dick NTR protagonist but we've proven wrong (because characters like Sinon enjoying Kirito's dick proves this wrong), or Sinon and Suguha, properly written woman characters who are not just big dick addicted NTR sluts. And we have Asuna, just a slut who is addicted to big dick, which is not a bad thing actually, but being her a hypocritical and greedy bitch, she is just unlikeable and unbearable, especially in a game we have a characters like Sinon and Suguha which know big dick but not surrendered to that. Her personality is lacks most (like she accepts everything Inoda wants and always forgives him but when it comes to her boyfriend she does exact opposite) compared to other woman characters (except her bitch mother) and this makes the game a bad NTR game.

Also there is another thing... If this game just follows NTR cliches for its endings, then why somebody should wait for 2+ years to writer completes it? Why pay money monthly for the game? At least I wouldn't want to pay if I am going to see same cliched NTR ending while paying and waiting 2+ years for it.

Inoda and Asuna scenes and interactions are just boring to me, but this is just a personal preference. I'm here for other characters, like Sinon, Suguha or even Alice. NTR plot and story in this game is just like any other cliched NTR games, like Asuna being extremely easily corruptible, Inoda is just being a virgin fatass sex god, Kirito being brain dead protagonist... Almost 90%+ of NTR games follow same plot, so nothing new and interesting here.

PS: I know nothing about sword art online, so I'm not here for cartoon & comic heroines. If anyone here plays the game just for sword art online heroines, the things I've written above are just nonsense and should be ignored.

 

[mos555]

Definitely agree anything that happens now would not be believable. Maybe everything up to the Treehouse event was still believable but everything afterwards is so just random. Still can't believe Asuna just gave a blowjob at the camping event with no buildup despite it being one of her biggest taboos. I think everyone is getting tired of this story. As long as Fujino can give a satisfying conclusion, we can move on and remember fondly how great the game was.

The blowjob at the campsite seemed to be the last time Asuna mentally apologized to Kirito. After that, apparently, she stopped feeling guilty.
I think it's more likely that it's not fatigue from the game, but just a misunderstanding of what is happening. Okay, we who play a new update every month. But imagine people who play the whole version from the start - the behavior and characters of the characters at the beginning, and then, after 10 hours of play and a month of in-game time, they see completely different behavior and characters.
As for NTR, I think that proper NTR is where the person who is being stolen is not emotionally connected to the person who is stealing. That is, Asuna can be lustful and want Inoda's cock as much as she wants, but she should only be emotionally connected to Kirito (she should love, cook dinners, and so on). It is this aspect that should cause emotional suffering to the player. They love each other, but the body belongs to the other. Many authors forget this and believe that for NTR it is enough to designate an official relationship between two people. But no. This is a mistake. This mistake was made by the authors of Turning the page and King Summer. In the middle of the game, the heroines they fall in love with the one who "stole" them on and completely forget about the existing partner. And Fujino made the same mistake. Although I do not know, maybe it's because he does not know how to prescribe a normal, healthy relationship? After all, this had never happened in his games before. Or maybe Fujino doesn't think it's important. But no matter how many times they say that this game is a parody, do not forget that this is a parody of the strongest and most famous couple in the entertainment industry. A couple that has been around for 22 years in the form of novels, anime, and games. I think many people expected Asuna to be STOLEN, not that Asuna would become a hypocritical, selfish whore.

 

[mos555]

Like Inoda, a character who even can't run properly fatso being a sex-god with unlimited stamina (because of big dick and reading too much about sex... like, really?)

Well, the problem here is rather that Fujino decided to expand the lore and character of Inoda. In other games, there are homeless people who shouldn't even have a dick because of their lifestyle and health. Or fat 50-year-old guys who spent their whole lives drinking beer and sitting on the couch. Where does their stamina come from? But there are such characters so that in the game, parallel to NTR, there is also an element of humiliation for the heroine. Like, "she's so horny that she doesn't care who she fucks with, even bums." It's just necessary to show how degraded the heroine is, and the homeless themselves are just dolls for the stage. But in the case of Inoda, Fujino expanded the character's story and ended up with something strange. Fat guy 18+ years old, psychopath, rapist, manipulator. With unlimited stamina and divine luck. Extremely unrealistic. It would be better if Inoda remained just a wooden log with a big dick.

 

[kinglionheart]

The blowjob at the campsite seemed to be the last time Asuna mentally apologized to Kirito. After that, apparently, she stopped feeling guilty.
I think it's more likely that it's not fatigue from the game, but just a misunderstanding of what is happening. Okay, we who play a new update every month. But imagine people who play the whole version from the start - the behavior and characters of the characters at the beginning, and then, after 10 hours of play and a month of in-game time, they see completely different behavior and characters.
As for NTR, I think that proper NTR is where the person who is being stolen is not emotionally connected to the person who is stealing. That is, Asuna can be lustful and want Inoda's cock as much as she wants, but she should only be emotionally connected to Kirito (she should love, cook dinners, and so on). It is this aspect that should cause emotional suffering to the player. They love each other, but the body belongs to the other. Many authors forget this and believe that for NTR it is enough to designate an official relationship between two people. But no. This is a mistake. This mistake was made by the authors of Turning the page and King Summer. In the middle of the game, the heroines fall in love with the one they cheated on and completely forget about the existing partner. And Fujino made the same mistake. Although I do not know, maybe it's because he does not know how to prescribe a normal, healthy relationship? After all, this had never happened in his games before. Or maybe Fujino doesn't think it's important. But no matter how many times they say that this game is a parody, do not forget that this is a parody of the strongest and most famous couple in the entertainment industry. A couple that has been around for 22 years in the form of novels, anime, and games. I think many people expected Asuna to be STOLEN, not that Asuna would become a hypocritical, selfish whore.

To be fair to Fujino and most other NTR authors out there. They should not have the knowledge and experience of writing about NTR, I hope. So everyone is just copying what others have done. Part 1 did do a good job for the relationship of Kirito and Asuna. I did feel they were strongest emotionally, not physically. But that had the problem not having any realistic way to break them up so Part 2 broke that relationship to make the NTR happen. A catch-22 situation for Fujino. Either keep their relationship strong but no actual NTR can happen or break their relationship but it doesn't feel like NTR anymore.

I am glad you mention those other games because I remember liking them in the beginning but quickly lost interest since it got so boring and the sex scenes were not very hot. This game kept me invested for the extra hot sex scene and interesting premise of VR world but it is time for a change.

 

[Aniky Light]

Willing cheater is not a bad thing, but the problem is characters are not suitable for that and story is a bad written one for that. Like Inoda, a character who even can't run properly fatso being a sex-god with unlimited stamina (because of big dick and reading too much about sex... like, really?) being the one stealing main heroine, or Kirito which we thought at first that he is just classic mini dick NTR protagonist but we've proven wrong (because characters like Sinon enjoying Kirito's dick proves this wrong), or Sinon and Suguha, properly written woman characters who are not just big dick addicted NTR sluts. And we have Asuna, just a slut who is addicted to big dick, which is not a bad thing actually, but being her a hypocritical and greedy bitch, she is just unlikeable and unbearable, especially in a game we have a characters like Sinon and Suguha which know big dick but not surrendered to that. Her personality is lacks most (like she accepts everything Inoda wants and always forgives him but when it comes to her boyfriend she does exact opposite) compared to other woman characters (except her bitch mother) and this makes the game a bad NTR game.

Also there is another thing... If this game just follows NTR cliches for its endings, then why somebody should wait for 2+ years to writer completes it? Why pay money monthly for the game? At least I wouldn't want to pay if I am going to see same cliched NTR ending while paying and waiting 2+ years for it.

Inoda and Asuna scenes and interactions are just boring to me, but this is just a personal preference. I'm here for other characters, like Sinon, Suguha or even Alice. NTR plot and story in this game is just like any other cliched NTR games, like Asuna being extremely easily corruptible, Inoda is just being a virgin fatass sex god, Kirito being brain dead protagonist... Almost 90%+ of NTR games follow same plot, so nothing new and interesting here.

PS: I know nothing about sword art online, so I'm not here for cartoon & comic heroines. If anyone here plays the game just for sword art online heroines, the things I've written above are just nonsense and should be ignored.

I doubt that Suguha is addicted to big dick, in fact she doesn't care, she doesn't like big dick because if a person with a big dick doesn't look like Kirito, that person he doesn't even have to try xD

 

[timurotbasaroglu]

I doubt that Suguha is addicted to big dick, in fact she doesn't care, she doesn't like big dick because if a person with a big dick doesn't look like Kirito, that person he doesn't even have to try xD

No man, you got it wrong. Asuna is the one big dick addicted, Suguha and Sinon are not. That's what I meant.

 

[Aniky Light]

No man, you got it wrong. Asuna is the one big dick addicted, Suguha and Sinon are not. That's what I meant.

maybe I read it wrong, because I read that Sino and Suguha are not only independent of the big dick, it's like they like both big and small ones

 

[Aniky Light]

Imagine if Inoda gets the power to change appearance, meaning he can become any person
the typical scene, Inoda takes the form of Kirito and fucks Asuna
Asuna: Kirito I didn't imagine you were this big
*Mentre scopano, entra il vero Kirito*
Kirito: Asuna? What are you doing?
Asuna: Who are you?
Kirito: It's me, Kirito
Asuna: What? if you're there, who is this *shocked and embarrassed but still nailed on the dick*

So who knows what might happen next?

Ok, forget everything I said, it's bullshit xD

 

[mos555]

To be fair to Fujino and most other NTR authors out there. They should not have the knowledge and experience of writing about NTR, I hope. So everyone is just copying what others have done. Part 1 did do a good job for the relationship of Kirito and Asuna. I did feel they were strongest emotionally, not physically. But that had the problem not having any realistic way to break them up so Part 2 broke that relationship to make the NTR happen. A catch-22 situation for Fujino. Either keep their relationship strong but no actual NTR can happen or break their relationship but it doesn't feel like NTR anymore.

I am glad you mention those other games because I remember liking them in the beginning but quickly lost interest since it got so boring and the sex scenes were not very hot. This game kept me invested for the extra hot sex scene and interesting premise of VR world but it is time for a change.

For proper NTR, there is no need to destroy the relationship. Asuna could love Kirito, marry Kirito, and even have Inoda's child so that Kirito could raise someone else's child. The destruction of relationships is the mistake that excludes NTR from the game. I think, brother, you meant that if Asuna loves Kirito so much, then why would she cheat on him? Well, in good NTR, the authors use a disease that causes lust or the seal of lust (in fantasy settings). Fujino could have come up with something that would force Asuna to vent her lust on someone else. Yes, even Oberon's actions could have put some kind of bookmark in her brain. This would completely justify everything and Asuna could continue to love Kirito. Fujino apparently decided to complicate his life and, indeed, drove himself into the "catch 22".

As for the games I mentioned, I associate them with disappointment. If you need to remember games with bad NTR, then the first thing you remember is them.

 

[mos555]

I doubt that Suguha is addicted to big dick, in fact she doesn't care, she doesn't like big dick because if a person with a big dick doesn't look like Kirito, that person he doesn't even have to try xD

This means that love has won. Even after spending a lot of time with a big dick of the Hebishima, Suguha still chose Kirito. That's the power of love.

 

[kinglionheart]

For proper NTR, there is no need to destroy the relationship. Asuna could love Kirito, marry Kirito, and even have Inoda's child so that Kirito could raise someone else's child. The destruction of relationships is the mistake that excludes NTR from the game. I think, brother, you meant that if Asuna loves Kirito so much, then why would she cheat on him? Well, in good NTR, the authors use a disease that causes lust or the seal of lust (in fantasy settings). Fujino could have come up with something that would force Asuna to vent her lust on someone else. Yes, even Oberon's actions could have put some kind of bookmark in her brain. This would completely justify everything and Asuna could continue to love Kirito. Fujino apparently decided to complicate his life and, indeed, drove himself into the "catch 22".
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As for the games I mentioned, I associate them with disappointment. If you need to remember games with bad NTR, then the first thing you remember is them.

Yea "broke" was the wrong word. I meant "weaken". Their relationship was so solid it didn't feel anything could happen without weakening it first. I have to say I am glad Fujino didn't use the lust curse trope here. Didn't fit the the environment of the game. He did use a variant of the lust disease if he continues with the Sugou trauma plotline.

 

[mos555]

Yea "broke" was the wrong word. I meant "weaken". Their relationship was so solid it didn't feel anything could happen without weakening it first. I have to say I am glad Fujino didn't use the lust curse trope here. Didn't fit the the environment of the game. He did use a variant of the lust disease if he continues with the Sugou trauma plotline.

Well, the curse (seal) of lust could work in virtual reality, and then switch to the real world because of, for example, antennas. It was so simple and obvious that I'm even surprised why Fujino didn't use it.

In the case of Sugo's mental influence, somewhere at the end of the game there should be a scene where Asuna "wakes up" and thinks "What's wrong with me, it wasn't me, why did I do all this?" But it can't stop anymore because the body got used to it. This would bring the relationship between Asuna and Kirito back to its previous level, and Asuna's carnal desires would bring NTR back into the game.
Fujino, if you're here, use this idea.

 

[4-kun]

Well, the curse (seal) of lust could work in virtual reality, and then switch to the real world because of, for example, antennas. It was so simple and obvious that I'm even surprised why Fujino didn't use it.

In the case of Sugo's mental influence, somewhere at the end of the game there should be a scene where Asuna "wakes up" and thinks "What's wrong with me, it wasn't me, why did I do all this?" But it can't stop anymore because the body got used to it. This would bring the relationship between Asuna and Kirito back to its previous level, and Asuna's carnal desires would bring NTR back into the game.
Fujino, if you're here, use this idea.

sounds like another soft reset for part 3

 

[Queen_Nothing]

In the case of Sugo's mental influence, somewhere at the end of the game there should be a scene where Asuna "wakes up" and thinks "What's wrong with me, it wasn't me, why did I do all this?" But it can't stop anymore because the body got used to it. This would bring the relationship between Asuna and Kirito back to its previous level, and Asuna's carnal desires would bring NTR back into the game.
Fujino, if you're here, use this idea.

That's what I'm hoping this update is, really. Reaffirming their love to bring forth Yui, then Asuna logs off and has marathon sweaty sex with Inoda.

I think one day she'll get her memories with Sugou back and she'll be in full, crazy cheating mode. But we gotta restore the loving relationship between Asuna and Kirito to make it hit hard. But I don't think the girls in Fujino's works are usually able to balance true love and sex addiction, I think they usually just fall in love with the NTR antagonist. Remembering what I know of the perks list, it seems Asuna is going to just shift her love towards Inoda and have to put up a fake relationship with Kirito.

 

[seifukulover]

Well, the problem here is rather that Fujino decided to expand the lore and character of Inoda. In other games, there are homeless people who shouldn't even have a dick because of their lifestyle and health. Or fat 50-year-old guys who spent their whole lives drinking beer and sitting on the couch. Where does their stamina come from? But there are such characters so that in the game, parallel to NTR, there is also an element of humiliation for the heroine. Like, "she's so horny that she doesn't care who she fucks with, even bums." It's just necessary to show how degraded the heroine is, and the homeless themselves are just dolls for the stage. But in the case of Inoda, Fujino expanded the character's story and ended up with something strange. Fat guy 18+ years old, psychopath, rapist, manipulator. With unlimited stamina and divine luck. Extremely unrealistic. It would be better if Inoda remained just a wooden log with a big dick.

I will give Fujino credit, because he really knows how to write a loathsome villain. It doesn't matter that his powers and luck are unrealistic, because they're just meant to show how much of a threat the villain is. And hating the villain is a good thing, because it pays off in the end when you see him defeated.

My problem with the whole NTR thing is that the author directly tells us "This villain is going to win and there's no payoff for you". I guess we're just supposed to enjoy the ride until we reach the bad ending?

 

[aa-aa-aa]

I don't get the notion of people wanting realism in this story. So what if the character is fat and slow. He just need to be good at fuckin. The negatives makes the humiliation even deeper. Its like losing sports to a shittier team while being the best. This is the reason why there are tons of NTR involving UB.
Also there is no proper NTR. It exist in a spectrum it's complex. Some stories involves destroying the relationship while some hides it. Some instantaneous while some like a slow burn. The reason for how the characters gets stolen also differs albeit from big dick or just emotional wanting somebody. Especially reading novels marketed for females. Sometimes you just ride a sinking ship and that's okay. If the author wanted no winning then so be it. Sometimes people read Shakespear even knowing it'll end in a tragedy.

 

[oozaru2023]

I still believe that the survey that Fujino sensei made for the second part was a terrible decision because of which there was a decline in the plot, although the NTR is quite understandable, not simply because he takes the girl away from the MC and that's it, but there are many things that are in favor of INODA and that cuckito let pass or forgot, such as his neglect of Asuna to satisfy her sexually, a terrible lover and who does everything wrong, he behaves even more immaturely than INODA himself.

 

[gaka200]

To be fair to Fujino and most other NTR authors out there. They should not have the knowledge and experience of writing about NTR, I hope. So everyone is just copying what others have done. Part 1 did do a good job for the relationship of Kirito and Asuna. I did feel they were strongest emotionally, not physically. But that had the problem not having any realistic way to break them up so Part 2 broke that relationship to make the NTR happen. A catch-22 situation for Fujino. Either keep their relationship strong but no actual NTR can happen or break their relationship but it doesn't feel like NTR anymore.

I am glad you mention those other games because I remember liking them in the beginning but quickly lost interest since it got so boring and the sex scenes were not very hot. This game kept me invested for the extra hot sex scene and interesting premise of VR world but it is time for a change.

tl;dr
It is what it is.

Anyways I'm still happy for what we got out of it overall.
For things to analyze on where things went wrong, the major things to me is the end of Part 1 and the introduction of the council. I am a personal fan of Sinon content, and find the Suguha content amusing, but their subplots and the soft reset were bad ideas in the grand scheme of things. And yes, I know I usually defend the soft reset, it's more me defending that based off the events of the stormy night, the soft reset needed to happen. The issue is more that if I remember correctly, the people at the time when Part 1 was going to end were being very vocal about wanting a major Asuna scene. I don't know if Fujino was coerced/convinced to rush that part, but it honestly didn't need to happen. In regards to Sinon and Suguha, it's mainly the council part. Suguha could probably have thrived fine, and Sinon just get further pushed aside as a nobody side character.

But yeah, it is what it is.

 

[toxicduo]

God I'll be disappointed if the love room is only used for lovey, wholesome purposes while Inoda is stuck with Liz.

But that actually kinda makes sense cause inoda still has to fully corrupt liz so while kirito and asuna are having there lovey dovey moment, liz could get jealous enough (or inoda gets horny enough) for them to have sex as well while there separated from the group.