SGod

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Didn't Fujino mention that the rainy scenes were unintentional? I'm puzzled about why people perceive the story as moving backward. As of now, Asuna hasn't shown any interest in fulfilling Inoda's wishes until this moment.
 

Eet_Fuk

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Didn't Fujino mention that the rainy scenes were unintentional? I'm puzzled about why people perceive the story as moving backward. As of now, Asuna hasn't shown any interest in fulfilling Inoda's wishes until this moment.
How do you mean unintentional?
 

4-kun

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See, here is the thing, Suguha actually was WAY more of a complex character than that, and while not as deeply as the novels the anime ALSO showed this, the issue is that basically nobody ever saw beyond "She likes her brother/cousin, this means she's another Imouto-Incest-Trope". Suguha literally has a realistic reaction to her feelings for Kazuto, she's suffering because she KNOWS he's in love with someone else and that under most circumstances he still would never see her as a woman, and she actively supports him, putting his happiness over her own rather than acting like a lovestruck sister cliche, hell, she gets her heart broken twice over trying to forget her feelings for him instead of being some bothersome cliche whose only trait is being in love with her brother to the point she's selfless at a borderline masochistic way, preferring to suffer repeatedly over forcing her feelings on him, even after she had a breakdown and actively was rejected she ended up understanding and rooting for his and Asuna's happiness regardless of her own feelings remaining, which is why I always liked her so much and lowkey made me a KiriSugu shipper, LOL

Of course, none of that matters for this game because her character was completely butchering to work in the NTR World setting and fall under NTR Tropes, so I had given up on seeing her in this game as anything but a source of good Suguha Hentai, which is why this sudden development was the most pleasant of surprises tbh XP As I said it reminds me of my favorite SAO H-doujin, where Suguha just goes full yandere and is fucking Kirito actively while he's in SAO having his honeymoon with Asuna, and when he finally logs out at the end of Aincrad she's there to greet him in the shadows with a full-on Yandere Face and a pregnant belly :p
Thanks, for the insight (y)

Yeah, I know that doujin ;)
 

4-kun

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How do you mean unintentional?
I've read somewhere that Fujino stated that 'the rainy night' was a mistake from Asuna's perspective. But I believe that Fujino himself initially didn't want that to happen so early. Due to the need to conclude part one, as a result of engine problems, he was forced to end it with a bang.

If I'm not mixing thing up. :)
 
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It's a shame that people criticize so much, that Fujino is doing his best and people end up not liking it, there are some things that I agree with here and not elsewhere, for example Asuna not liking Kirito's ''dick'' who grew up and talking It hurts, but I liked it with Inoda, I really didn't understand that.

I like slow progression, because it means the game is good, but not too slow of course, the problem is that people don't understand that Asuna wanted to get away from Inoda after that, and only forgave now, however... Ok, she did an HJ for him, but he doesn't want to get that far, that soon, that's why Inoda wants to conquer it first with tips from Liz, I think Fujino is doing a great job with that, but if he wants to change from now on, I respect and I'm going to keep playing, but I just hope it doesn't just speed up Asuna and Inoda out of nowhere like that, I think it would be possible to complete Alice and Sinon so people don't get disturbed and so he can focus on what he wants. And Asuna's mom is hypocritical as hell.
 

Niselaro

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Some people are dissatisfied with this update because they want spicy hot content, not spice, but as game is in development and in full picture even now everything is good and will be. Some consider this too much bordering vanilla maybe, but you can't make NTR without vanilla or its just prostitution or because there were 3 CG's of Kirito that probably almost no one was excited about except vanilla guys who voted for it, but its also played its part in Asuna corruption and cheating progress. I doubt someone was very excited about them, rape and HJ. Asuna is starting to do lewd stuff with Inoda smoothly and goes towards ''justified cheating'' which is best.
 

Eet_Fuk

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I've read somewhere that Fujino stated that 'the rainy night' was a mistake from Asuna's perspective. But I believe that Fujino himself initially didn't want that to happen so early. Due to the need to conclude part one, as a result of engine problems, he was forced to end it with a bang.

If I'm not mixing thing up. :)
I always was getting a feeling that that stormy night events happened way too fast. Now I wonder can we think if that was even canon or not
 
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AlterInfernalAllius

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Now, as you mention it, Inoda's behavior changed in this update. Him fooling around felt a bit off to me. The dude looks and behaves cunning, evil, and disgusting, and that's great about his character.
It's a risky move, changing a game character's personality so late into the game.
Pretty sure Inoda's "changes" are basically Liz literally forcing him to follow HER plans, and he clearly isnt' happy about it but still believes Liz to be his best route to get Asuna so he follows along :O

Thanks, for the insight (y)

Yeah, I know that doujin ;)
No problem dude, always glad to clear up the many misunderstandings people have over SAO and my best girl :p
 
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4-kun

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Pretty sure Inoda's "changes" are basically Liz literally forcing him to follow HER plans, and he clearly isnt' happy about it but still believes Liz to be his best route to get Asuna so he follows along :O



No problem dude, always glad to clear up the many misunderstandings people have over SAO and my best girl :p
"I was referring to Fujino's plans to turn Inoda into a comical character. How can you force someone to become funny? Pressure is probably the last thing that will help with that. :)
 
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I mean, Fujino is clearly starting to rush Asuna's corruption because of so many people complaining of how slow it's going, so he's starting to take some liberties/shortcuts for it, but being totally fair she HAS already been corrupted a lot, it's just that she had the common sense to resist it and that's starting to be eroded, just not in a way most would have preferred I suppose XP
that's because of part 1, and stormy night, fujino is to be blamed, i don't think anyone wanted change to game designed, it should of been run same way, was bit buggy, at lease it never lagged i hate messages that popped up it slowed the game to crawl. Interface is nice in part 2, he should just kept same one for second part to do quicker development, i didn't need improved combat system and look, original was fine, we aren't playing it for RPG turn base side, its for NTR and sex.
 
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saitamaTM

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Some people are dissatisfied with this update because they want spicy hot content, not spice, but as game is in development and in full picture even now everything is good and will be. Some consider this too much bordering vanilla maybe, but you can't make NTR without vanilla or its just prostitution or because there were 3 CG's of Kirito that probably almost no one was excited about except vanilla guys who voted for it, but its also played its part in Asuna corruption and cheating progress. I doubt someone was very excited about them, rape and HJ. Asuna is starting to do lewd stuff with Inoda smoothly and goes towards ''justified cheating'' which is best.
i fine with the update but it missing a lot event, the game never show us what happen to inoda and liz in the tent and how asuna mom get blackmail it quite sporadic
 

saitamaTM

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I mean, Fujino is clearly starting to rush Asuna's corruption because of so many people complaining of how slow it's going, so he's starting to take some liberties/shortcuts for it, but being totally fair she HAS already been corrupted a lot, it's just that she had the common sense to resist it and that's starting to be eroded, just not in a way most would have preferred I suppose XP
maybe asuna is easygoing girl her always feel bad and guilty when inoda feel sad
 

4-kun

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i fine with the update but it missing a lot event, the game never show us what happen to inoda and liz in the tent and how asuna mom get blackmail it quite sporadic
What do you mean, you can unlock scenes in the "dream world"
 

saitamaTM

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Part 1 is not a different game, part 1 is the same game but separated due to limitations with the engine. All the buildup we had in part 1 still exists, I feel like people keep forgetting that when they say things are going too fast. Yes, Inoda moved too fast in part 1 and caused Asuna to try and distance herself. But we dont need the entirety of part 2 to be more buildup, they already fucked. A handy is not some giant leap.

I think the only thing Fujino is doing wrong is using the recollection room as a core part of the game. The recollection room is to replay what ive already seen or missed, not to play a key part in the story progression, that is just weird and confusing.

But at the end of the day, he needs to just turn off comments for a while, drop 2-3 updates without checking any feedback, and then see where he is at and how people are reacting to the game.

Its a porn game, everyone wants it to tailor to their specific fetishes and fantasies, but you cant please everybody.
you right
 

saitamaTM

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What do you mean, you can unlock scenes in the "dream world"
i talk about event with inoda and liz in the tent and asuna mom we never know anything about this what liz plan and how her mom fuck with inoda or maybe we will know about all of this in next update
 

icyair

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I think instead of a simple and rich ntr, we see overly complicated plot structures, tons of text, deliberate messing up of Asuna and Kirito's relationship (I think the rape scene is unnecessary and ruins the experience), too much of Asuna's mother in the game. Fujino says he didn't want to show Inoda as a scumbag, but what he does in the second part is horrible. I mean, he's just addicted to sex and doesn't care who he's with. At this rate, Inoda could just stay with Asuna's mother and that's it. I liked Inoda from the first part. He was at least focused on making Asuna his. And the complete disappearance of any sense of mystery where we can only peek or otherwise know what's really going on. The first part is much better in that aspect.
 
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