Giappofiga

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I'm quite new to this game but I wanted to express my thoughts, I think you could do NTR scenes without making the protagonist a sub, it seems to me that the protagonist especially red was designed as dominant, so you could do NTR scenes with the protagonist when is not under red's control (for example, when he hit his head or a situation where they had an argument with each other and Red refuses to help), then after the NTR occurs, Red regains control and avenge. So you have both the NTR and a protagonist who isn't just a cuck
Something like this.
Sorry if my english is bad :)
 

Maoyijiu

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I always feel sick about two paths or two different games. I have obsession so I have to get every CG, but in two paths I cant in the mood about the whole story. So I think some NTR events are ok. Just my thought.
 
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I'm quite new to this game but I wanted to express my thoughts, I think you could do NTR scenes without making the protagonist a sub, it seems to me that the protagonist especially red was designed as dominant, so you could do NTR scenes with the protagonist when is not under red's control (for example, when he hit his head or a situation where they had an argument with each other and Red refuses to help), then after the NTR occurs, Red regains control and avenge. So you have both the NTR and a protagonist who isn't just a cuck
Something like this.
Sorry if my english is bad :)
maybe that's what was initially planned, considering all the early game scenes with Tiffany mary becca, sara
so even the scene with mary and darnell didn't actually happen story wise from what i understand, so it will probably be erased from the main route and a similar scene will be
 
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In the scenes gallery, v0.89.x, I'm missing the 3rd to last scene. Can someone let me know what I'm missing?
 

Chaosslayer

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It was more rapey, we changed it and will be changing other parts to the beginning as well to take away some of the early humiliation stuff.



It no longer reflects the standards of the rest of the game, and could have caused us dubious issues with patreon revolving around that type of content.
can you leave them in as a separate update or download patch
 

Chaosslayer

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When is Tiffanny content coming?
I really love redheads, and that freckled butt is amazing
I would prefer more of the freaking shop girl that redhead is amazing I'm so happy we had at least some kind of update with that scene-wise though I feel like we got more Tiffany stuff
 

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maybe that's what was initially planned, considering all the early game scenes with Tiffany mary becca, sara
so even the scene with mary and darnell didn't actually happen story wise from what i understand, so it will probably be erased from the main route and a similar scene will be
That's what I'm talking about ideally considering red is purely dominant even if he swings both ways with Vivian / Danny NTR should never cock the main dude the main dude should NTR other people
 

Chaosslayer

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I 100% agree about Dev's making the game they want to make and letting the chips fall as they will. Pandering to multiple groups with diametrically opposed concepts such as the one here is folly in the end a compromised work is compromised. Now it could still be a good work and I have not given up on the Dev yet but I also have the nagging thoughts in the back of my mind about the chances of success in pulling this off. It's like Pandora's box the damn thing is open now and you can't close the damn lid anymore. :cautious:
Look just take it off patreon put on incest put on a rape put on a fanboy put on NTR put on beastiality if you're going to fucking do the original idea of pandering to All Things panned her to all fucking things put it on a platform that will work like that you don't need to put it on patreon but give people the option in game clearly stating going any forward this is what's going to happen do you want to proceed yes or no
 

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what about the last patreon post? 2days ago?
It was copied here by Timendo #26,633 - sometimes all you have to do to find something is to scroll back to the day in question.
Look just take it off patreon put on incest put on a rape put on a fanboy put on NTR put on beastiality if you're going to fucking do the original idea of pandering to All Things panned her to all fucking things put it on a platform that will work like that you don't need to put it on patreon but give people the option in game clearly stating going any forward this is what's going to happen do you want to proceed yes or no
There isn't a viable platform for the developer that will do that.

Also, if you want any of your ideas to get the person who makes the final decisions, Uberpie, you should go to his discord to suggest. He hasn't chatted on here in over 4 years and hasn't even logged on to F95 in over 7 months. Sure, lostraven is the primary writer - but has stated several times that he only does what he's contracted to do.
 

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Look just take it off patreon put on incest put on a rape put on a fanboy put on NTR put on beastiality if you're going to fucking do the original idea of pandering to All Things panned her to all fucking things put it on a platform that will work like that you don't need to put it on patreon but give people the option in game clearly stating going any forward this is what's going to happen do you want to proceed yes or no
I kind of get what you are saying , but I was not really talking about Patreon. The rules on Patreon are stupid to be sure. I don't think this splitting of the game into two games was driven by any rules on the platform.

My only concern is what this will do to a game I liked after they end up removing god knows which elements that some of the donors did not like. Part of what I liked about the game was the inner tension/fight that Red and Blue have through out the dialog. If you remove the non dominant side(Blue) from Red then he will not be the same character anymore. This is why I was okay with warnings and choices. With that method of handling the NTR /NonNTR routs the duality of the character could still remain. I worry that the need to have a solely macho Red will weaken the game appeal for me.

So my lament about the splitting really has little to do with if I like NTR or don't like it, it is the fact that it will change what I already thought was a pretty realistic inner dialog. Maybe they will surprise me and handle it in a interesting way. Frankly though Red minus Blue will just leave an insane character which to me is boring.
 

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I kind of get what you are saying , but I was not really talking about Patreon. The rules on Patreon are stupid to be sure. I don't think this splitting of the game into two games was driven by any rules on the platform.

My only concern is what this will do to a game I liked after they end up removing god knows which elements that some of the donors did not like. Part of what I liked about the game was the inner tension/fight that Red and Blue have through out the dialog. If you remove the non dominant side(Blue) from Red then he will not be the same character anymore. This is why I was okay with warnings and choices. With that method of handling the NTR /NonNTR routs the duality of the character could still remain. I worry that the need to have a solely macho Red will weaken the game appeal for me.

So my lament about the splitting really has little to do with if I like NTR or don't like it, it is the fact that it will change what I already thought was a pretty realistic inner dialog. Maybe they will surprise me and handle it in a interesting way. Frankly though Red minus Blue will just leave an insane character which to me is boring.
What was the attraction of this game initially, at least for me? In the struggle of opposites, Red vs Blue, as you correctly noted. After several alterations of the game, what remains of the original appeal of the game? Practically nothing. Red has long defeated Blue, so a bunch of idiots who are still writing here about NTR are just doing a meaningless thing. At the moment, there is practically no NTR in this game at all. Moreover, for some reason, dev is going to do the stupidest thing - to release the same game, but among two different routes. To do such a thing is like indulging those cretins who demolish monuments to Columbus or J. Washington.
 

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What was the attraction of this game initially, at least for me? In the struggle of opposites, Red vs Blue, as you correctly noted. After several alterations of the game, what remains of the original appeal of the game? Practically nothing. Red has long defeated Blue, so a bunch of idiots who are still writing here about NTR are just doing a meaningless thing. At the moment, there is practically no NTR in this game at all. Moreover, for some reason, dev is going to do the stupidest thing - to release the same game, but among two different routes. To do such a thing is like indulging those cretins who demolish monuments to Columbus or J. Washington.
Well Dr. :sneaky:... I don't think that inner struggle has completely disappeared, meaning Red has not actually won really if you look at it both sides are changing and gradually merging into one being. That is how I see it up until a certain point. Because of the time slip nature of the game though these things can be tricky to track. As far as your last statement I just don't think the two things compare. I do think having two iterations of the same game is unneeded though.
 
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Well Dr. :sneaky:... I don't think that inner struggle has completely disappeared, meaning Red has not actually won really if you look at it both sides are changing and gradually merging into one being. That is how I see it up until a certain point. Because of the time slip nature of the game though these things can be tricky to track. As far as your last statement I just don't think the two things compare. I do think having two iterations of the same game is unneeded though.
Hmmm... You are so tolerant. Perhaps, as the famous LastRaven wrote here, Red and Blue should complement each other, but in fact, on the second day of the game, MC comes to the store at night to calmly fuck Natalie. Such is the struggle of opposites in fact.
 
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