Unity Taffy Tales [S1 Redux] [UberPie]

[jayphi45]

This is what I'm thinking.
Yes I get the game had an NTR route planned, however they've strayed away from that for years and that now most likely made majority or their supporters anti-NTR.

Adding NTR content is one thing, but making a whole route this late for it into production?
It's just odd to do that when Uber's whole model behind TT over the course of its life cycle is giving what the majority want and again I doubt majority of his supporters are for this update.

I'll say this one more time, the best way to determine how many people actually are giving support for an NTR route is creating a poll after this update just available for patrons.
Personally I just don't doubt it being close of 50% of patrons being in favor of this.

Vanilla fans are almost surely the majority but that’s not the point of the update right now.

NTR has been planned since day 1. Uber himself has wanted there to be an NTR path since the beginning. In the beginning updates he was even mixing the paths leading up to the decision to split personalities or not (where the old NTR route and vanilla path would split). He hasn’t ever “strayed” from this idea but has more caved to the incessant whining from the very loud parts of the vanilla community. The very same that come here and can’t shut the fuck up about how much they hate NTR as if it being in a porn game has crippled them in real life.

The plan was then made to focus on the vanilla path to appease these people and almost surely the majority of patrons. He stated explicitly that the NTR updates would come much later and it’s been like 3-4 years of main plot updates. He hasn’t haphazardly thrown this in last minute, it’s been the plan for years. He’s also personally said he wants to do this route a couple times iirc. It’s not going anywhere and despite the whinging the vanilla guys can handle one NTR update.

On a personal note you seem to be part of the vanilla group, so you asking so incessantly to do a poll to basically take years of planned content out of the game puts you in a poor light. I don’t care about NTR but I love the art and want as much as I can get, so when you and others ask for content to be cut to seemingly appease your fetish it’s super cringe.

Also asking for a poll here does nothing, the only staff member here anymore is lostraven and he only stops in to laugh at our constant squabbling like this.

Edit: Just saw your other post and something I wanted to point out. The only reason we even have a split update right now is because after YEARS of main plot updates the vanilla fans couldn’t stop crying that A single NTR update was coming. The bitching did nothing but cause the split of the game that has everyone scared and extend the release time to work on the main story side. For the group that hates cuck shit they sure do a good job cucking themselves and everyone else out of the game.

 

[spittlespattle]

Soo harry is definitely gonna become a maid lmao

 

[ZUBiDAM]

These are solid points, but is it maintainable pleasing both sides for that long with their current team?

there is a different writer for the ntr route, the first update needs to be big to get the story to a decent progress.
but they can update the ntr route with smaller updates along with the bigger normal route updates.
maybe the ai uber uses could make it possible to release a lot more proper art in a shorter time

 

[Count Morado]

Then why don't we find out how many NTR patrons there is through a patreon poll?
It's the best way to determine how many fans it truly has and if it's worth the trouble continuing a whole route for them. I'm not saying it needs to be over 50%, but what I was saying is I doubt it gets anything close to that if the poll were to happen.

From your earlier post, I didn't ignore I just saw the other guys reply first.
What I can gather is while yes I know an NTR update will increase supporters from that front, but I believe it will also greatly diminish the number of supporters who have been there for years waiting for main route updates.

In the long run this might be troublesome considering the wait times between updates. This is why they're making a main route update alongside the NTR one, however that won't be something they'll be able to maintain for long considering how stretched out the team seem to be now.

This whole argument is moot and, in fact, illogical. The netorare content was meant from the beginning and, is obvious that Uberpie has wanted in his game. Yes, Uberpie conceded the development after the initial release to only work on the main route because of a very vocal minority group of people who weren't netorare fans. Now he wants to get back to developing the netorare route which has been deserted for a long time because of appeasing that vocal minority of people who aren't netorare fans. Not saying that the all non-netorare fans are the minority - but that the vocal anti-netorare people are a minority.

1. It's Uberpie's game, and he will do with it as he wishes
2. He's wanted to develop the netorare route since day one
3. In order to appease the very vocal minority group of the non-netorare fans which can't even endure having optional routes in their gameplay, there will be at least 2 separate versions of this game so that they don't have to worry about it
4. The main route has attracted a lot of fans
5. The netorare route will add more fans who are most inclined to enjoy the new route
6. Eventually, the third route that has been planned from the beginning, the sharing route (friendship route) will also be be added and will add more fans

Here's the thing - since the initial days of development, because Uberpie has neglected developing the netorare route he has alienated a portion of his fanbase that has been waiting 5 years for content. He's wanting to give that fanbase the content they have been asking for for years. He's not alienating his main route fanbase because he's still developing it. So instead of the idea that he's wasting his time - in fact - he is looking to build his fanbase.

This argument has been going in circles now for a couple of pages because it's been premised on a polar concept that by adding one thing, Uberpie is taking away from another. That is not the case. Both still exist. Both are still getting content updates. It may or may not be a win/win - but it's not about one side getting a large piece of the pie... its about making a larger pie.

And in the end, there are hundreds of millions of adult video game players in the world. If he's lucky, maybe 1% know of his game at this time. The simple idea that Uberpie will destroy his marketshare by working on netorare content, as well as the harem content, is ridiculous. There is a vast, untapped wealth of potential players still out there and as long as Uberpie continues to develop, he will continue to attract fans.

 

[lostraven]

"play testing the game" suuure

For the record,
I'm not writing anything per-essential for the script rn,
I'm writing random interactable dialogues with characters.

A= "Nice weather today isn't it?"
B= "No, it's shit."

I have no idea about how the actual play-testing is going or whatever, not my department.

For additional clarification* I do sometimes get asked to amend things in scripts pretty much at anytime during production. There's no metric for me to know when an update is *out* or close to being out till I'm told otherwise by Uberpie and co. I can literally be altering stuff for them 24 hours prior to a release.
- I did *used* to do play-testing myself, but since the team got increased and jobs got shuffled around, I no longer handle that.

 

[Count Morado]

For the record,
I'm not writing anything per-essential for the script rn,
I'm writing random interactable dialogues with characters.

A= "Nice weather today isn't it?"
B= "No, it's shit."

I have no idea about how the actual play-testing is going or whatever, not my department.

Now that's hot. The weather, that is.

Thanks lostraven. Now get ready for a bunch of people to ask the usual questions.

You come in here just to stir the pot. I know how you do.

 

[lostraven]

You come in here just to stir the pot. I know how you do.

It's a tough job, going from dev stressed out at anything and everything to shitpost lord, but someone's got to do it.


I will do everything in my power to try slip this song into the game for no other reason other than it's a quirky mystery irl.

 

[kiribito]

For the record,
I'm not writing anything per-essential for the script rn,
I'm writing random interactable dialogues with characters.

A= "Nice weather today isn't it?"
B= "No, it's shit."

I have no idea about how the actual play-testing is going or whatever, not my department.

For additional clarification* I do sometimes get asked to amend things in scripts pretty much at anytime during production. There's no metric for me to know when an update is *out* or close to being out till I'm told otherwise by Uberpie and co. I can literally be altering stuff for them 24 hours prior to a release.
- I did *used* to do play-testing myself, but since the team got increased and jobs got shuffled around, I no longer handle that.

I do be curious at how the other guy's writting is going to compare to yours. What if people love his stuff so much you go under?!

 

[lostraven]

I do be curious at how the other guy's writting is going to compare to yours. What if people love his stuff so much you go under?!

 

[Artist271]

Then why don't we find out how many NTR patrons there is through a patreon poll?
It's the best way to determine how many fans it truly has and if it's worth the trouble continuing a whole route for them. I'm not saying it needs to be over 50%, but what I was saying is I doubt it gets anything close to that if the poll were to happen.

From your earlier post, I didn't ignore I just saw the other guys reply first.
What I can gather is while yes I know an NTR update will increase supporters from that front, but I believe it will also greatly diminish the number of supporters who have been there for years waiting for main route updates.

In the long run this might be troublesome considering the wait times between updates. This is why they're making a main route update alongside the NTR one, however that won't be something they'll be able to maintain for long considering how stretched out the team seem to be now.

You seem really entitled, what's worth the trouble is Uber's vision. And more hyperbole, it ain't decreasing the supporters all that much that it will make a dent in his wallet LMAO not while taffy tales is one of the best and highest quality porn games out there, the majority are gonna stick around for a quality awesome porn game.
And keep up with the updates, Uber has communicated with us that his development and writing for the game has been faster than ever before due to improvements on it, based on the last update that told us we will be having way more content than ever before even if the ntr route isn't to be added. What I mean is, the main route is gonna have way more content than the last big big update it had.

 

[TaslionVekk]

I need this new update so bad

 

[soyjari]

I look forward to an update soon

 

[DoyouknowwhatIamsaying]

1. Eventually, the third route that has been planned from the beginning, the sharing route (friendship route) will also be be added and will add more fans

Ohhh! I didn't even know that's gonna be a thing in the future, looking forward to it

 

[SGGG]

This whole argument is moot and, in fact, illogical. The netorare content was meant from the beginning and, is obvious that Uberpie has wanted in his game. Yes, Uberpie conceded the development after the initial release to only work on the main route because of a very vocal minority group of people who weren't netorare fans. Now he wants to get back to developing the netorare route which has been deserted for a long time because of appeasing that vocal minority of people who aren't netorare fans. Not saying that the all non-netorare fans are the minority - but that the vocal anti-netorare people are a minority.
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Yes, for this reason I also subscribed at the beginning (until today) that it should be a Netorare content. Okay, there should be some variety, but that there were only two scenes (especially with Mary, this scene gallery doesn't exist and only as a GC gallery?

But I can understand how you described about the "anti-Netorare fans", I can't understand myself either. There were options in the course of the game (like in the gay scene with Danny) that you didn't want!

I hope a fans of Netorare there should be more.

 

[Stil996]

Ohhh! I didn't even know that's gonna be a thing in the future, looking forward to it

We don't know if this will be a thing, it was something that was planned/hinted at, but with the decision tosplit in the game it seems unlikely now IMO since it doesn't fit either route. But like always time will tell, we won't know until it's done.

 

[Stil996]

...But I can understand how you described about the "anti-Netorare fans", I can't understand myself either. There were options in the course of the game (like in the gay scene with Danny) that you didn't want!

I hope a fans of Netorare there should be more.

You should really use the full words here, sure "fan" is derived from "fanatic", but "fan" has positive connotations now, and there is nothing positive about the "anti Netorare Fanatics". A real Fan will simply choose the options that lead to their preferred content, those fanatics aren't capable of that kind of reason. I never could tell if that inability stemmed from lack of intellect, lack of emotional maturity or some kind of psychological trauma (being cucks in real life causing some kind of PTSD reaction).
Though I guess there is nothing mutually exclusive about any of these states (I imagine many women have affairs/leave because their husbands/boyfriends are Intellectually/Emotionally deficient)

 

[DownTheDrain]

A real Fan will simply choose the options that lead to their preferred content, those fanatics aren't capable of that kind of reason. I never could tell if that inability stemmed from lack of intellect, lack of emotional maturity or some kind of psychological trauma (being cucks in real life causing some kind of PTSD reaction).

Frankly, your attempts at armchair psychology aren't any better.
There's no point in bitching about NTR in Taffy Tales, as that angle has been hinted at from the very beginning, but I don't need to be emotionally stunted or mentally handicapped to dislike fetishes that make my dick shrivel.

 

[Stil996]

Frankly, your attempts at armchair psychology aren't any better.
There's no point in bitching about NTR in Taffy Tales, as that angle has been hinted at from the very beginning, but I don't need to be emotionally stunted or mentally handicapped to dislike fetishes that make my dick shrivel.

Looks like you've misunderstood my post (considering you are spitting my position back at me)
My point was you have every right to enjoy or dislike any fetish without being attacked for it (that's called being a fan). What I was defining as a fanatic, are the freaks who try to bully Devs into tailoring their games to them and kink shaming anyone who disagrees.

People who can't deal with NTR being in the game even though it was clearly advertised and the options were clearly marked, absolutely are "emotionally stunted or mentally handicapped". Nothing I said about fanatics was directed at fans who choose not to play NTR routes, only those who whine about the fact they exist.

 

[DownTheDrain]

People who can't deal with NTR being in the game even though it was clearly advertised and the options were clearly marked, absolutely are "emotionally stunted or mentally handicapped".

You were doing so well up until that point.

I could probably say the same about people that feel the need to try to force their fetish into random games where it was never mentioned and doesn't fit the theme (you know, the other half of NTR connoisseurs) but then I'd look just as silly.

 

[Stil996]

You were doing so well up until that point.

I could probably say the same about people that feel the need to try to force their fetish into random games where it was never mentioned and doesn't fit the theme (you know, the other half of NTR connoisseurs)

Again you spit my position back at me like I'm arguing against it.

The Fetish is irrelevant, attempting to bully the Dev is what's relevant, if "Pro NTR Fanatics" exist I rate them no differently from "Anti NTR Fanatics".

Here is a simplified version of my stance

• The Dev should dictate what content is and isn't in his/her project. Those projects are like trains, if you don't like where one is going, don't just sit there and whine, get on another that is going where you want to go.
• No Dev should ever cater to idiots, those who can't figure out that options with !!!NTR CONTENT!!! might lead to "NTR" (feel free to substitute NTR it with any fetish), it is almost as contemptible as catering to the kind of "emotionally stunted or mentally handicapped" runts who throw tantrums over the presence of clearly advertised content.