Unity Taffy Tales [S1 Redux] [UberPie]

[Count Morado]

They wanted to let us know that, yes, the project was completely deleted, but they also deleted the reason listed on their systems as to why it was deleted.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale if anyone who buys that wants to buy something else.

So far i finish playing newest update which is 1.07.3c, and also play the older version. I got quick question. When going save tiffany at Fox club, how to i unlock violent gangbang scene?

There is no such thing.

For Violet, there is an optional pimping out scene in the bathroom at the Fox Club (if you haven't seen, it's at 16:30 in the video listed here: 25,441.

 

[BlaBlaCat]

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale if anyone who buys that wants to buy something else.

Hi. Do I understand correctly that you don't believe them? Although many projects have been removed from Patreon without much explanation of the reasons. I read the thread a long time ago and saw that you found quite competently and in detail where they might have violated Patreon's rules, but the problem is that most of the top projects violate those rules. Is this another conspiracy theory and is uber hiding something terrible again lol?

 

[Count Morado]

Hi. Do I understand correctly that you don't believe them? Although many projects have been removed from Patreon without much explanation of the reasons. I read the thread a long time ago and saw that you found quite competently and in detail where they might have violated Patreon's rules, but the problem is that most of the top projects violate those rules. Is this another conspiracy theory and is uber hiding something terrible again lol?

I do not believe what Uberpie is saying, no. Patreon would not delete why the account was closed, that makes no business or legal sense.

As for your contention that most of the top projects violate the rules, if that is the case then those creators should fix their content to be in compliance. Uberpie was a top 20 adult game creator on Patreon and that didn't stop the site from taking action. Several other creators have met a similar fate in the past year. It's only a matter of time, and creators should expect to be held accountable to their agreement with Patreon TOS and community guidelines.

 

[tretch95]

No FAQ #93432 written yet on the topic?

 

[BlaBlaCat]

I do not believe what Uberpie is saying, no. Patreon would not delete why the account was closed, that makes no business or legal sense.

As for your contention that most of the top projects violate the rules, if that is the case then those creators should fix their content to be in compliance. Uberpie was a top 20 adult game creator on Patreon and that didn't stop the site from taking action. Several other creators have met a similar fate in the past year. It's only a matter of time, and creators should expect to be held accountable to their agreement with Patreon TOS and community guidelines.

Patreon hasn't offered such an option for a long time, it's very strange that you're accusing him of not removing something (as opposed to deleting the entire project). You seem to have access to the developer threads where they talk about their conversations with support and how useless that is. Why are you piling even more onto the victim? (as I said before - most of the top projects violate those rules ?) It’s basically your word against the words of people in the industry.

He is a rather strange guy with strange and not always successful decisions, of course, but here it’s just pure exaggeration. From the very beginning, he wrote that he tried to negotiate, but they gave him an ultimatum.

You follow this and other projects quite closely and thoroughly, and I agree with much of your criticism, but here it makes no sense at all.

 

[BlaBlaCat]

Sorry I didn't read your response very carefully. My main point is that everyone gets punished, and they are no longer given the opportunity to fix anything. Or at least, they are not always given the chance, and no one talks much to them. It’s like a cursed roulette where someone just gets unlucky. Is there any need to look for a second hidden, scary meaning here?
This guy just got very unlucky.

 

[BlaBlaCat]

Another question. Is NTR update here a separate game from the beginning or a continuation of story?

 

[Rotily Forcioli]

Enough with the teasers, a date please

 

[Count Morado]

Sorry I didn't read your response very carefully. My main point is that everyone gets punished, and they are no longer given the opportunity to fix anything. Or at least, they are not always given the chance, and no one talks much to them. It’s like a cursed roulette where someone just gets unlucky. Is there any need to look for a second hidden, scary meaning here?
This guy just got very unlucky.

What "second hidden, scary meaning" are you referring to? This is the second time you have brought this up. Please be clear in what you are asking - if you are scared for some odd reason to bring it up in a public forum - message me, because this is ridiculous. Your tinfoil hat is showing. Calling him "victim" is silly. And your whataboutism saying other "top projects" is weak. Patreon works on a spot-check and reporting system to review creator content. Uberpie isn't the only "top project" to have been removed in the past year due to issues with content.

Uberpie already was on his "second chance" since 2018 when "Family Tales" became "Taffy Tales" and relationships changed in order for Uberpie to have a Patreon account.

Depending upon the content that is in question, Patreon may or may not give developers time to fix a game... if the content is too proliferated throughout the game or the content is too extreme (i.e. such as too young, which is not the factor of this game) or a developer is noncommunicative or has already been given a second chance in the past... there are a variety of factors. Bottom line is that it is easy to see with various content examples Uberpie included ran afoul of Patreon TOS/community guidelines - TOS/guidelines which had not changed in substance since before Uberpie started work on the game.

If you are strictly taking Uberpie on his word for what Patreon says, then that's on you. It's his side of the story only - with nothing showing to back that up. Simply his word. If you trust him that much, fine. If what he says fits your world view of an evil, malicious and capricious corporate Big Brother trying to stomp all over the little guy, that's your prerogative, too. But for me, I'm not believing jack when I'm only told one side and that one side makes themselves look like an innocent little angel who only ever does the right thing and is only thinking of their fans.

Look, I feel I'm repeating a lot of things I've already gone over here. If you have something direct you want to ask - start a private convo with me.

Enough with the teasers, a date please

Not going to happen.

First, the developer, Uberpie, hasn't communicated on here in 6 years. He communicates in his Patreon with updates and sometimes on his Discord. He's not even going to see your demand.

Second, Uberpie sucks at estimating release dates. Anything more than 2 weeks out for an estimate and he'll blow the date by a long shot.

Third, it's at least a month, if not two months (or even 2025), before whatever they are calling "Season 1" will be sent to Steam for consideration.

So I would recommend just relaxing and finding something to do during the wait.

Another question. Is NTR update here a separate game from the beginning or a continuation of story?

The Netorare (NTR) route is supposed to be an alternate route from nearly the beginning. However, the only part that has been implemented as part of the first half of "Season 5" (v1.07.3).

 

[bobofthebush]

What "second hidden, scary meaning" are you referring to? This is the second time you have brought this up. Please be clear in what you are asking - if you are scared for some odd reason to bring it up in a public forum - message me, because this is ridiculous. Your tinfoil hat is showing. Calling him "victim" is silly. And your whataboutism saying other "top projects" is weak. Patreon works on a spot-check and reporting system to review creator content. Uberpie isn't the only "top project" to have been removed in the past year due to issues with content.

Uberpie already was on his "second chance" since 2018 when "Family Tales" became "Taffy Tales" and relationships changed in order for Uberpie to have a Patreon account.

Depending upon the content that is in question, Patreon may or may not give developers time to fix a game... if the content is too proliferated throughout the game or the content is too extreme (i.e. such as too young, which is not the factor of this game) or a developer is noncommunicative or has already been given a second chance in the past... there are a variety of factors. Bottom line is that it is easy to see with various content examples Uberpie included ran afoul of Patreon TOS/community guidelines - TOS/guidelines which had not changed in substance since before Uberpie started work on the game.

If you are strictly taking Uberpie on his word for what Patreon says, then that's on you. It's his side of the story only - with nothing showing to back that up. Simply his word. If you trust him that much, fine. If what he says fits your world view of an evil, malicious and capricious corporate Big Brother trying to stomp all over the little guy, that's your prerogative, too. But for me, I'm not believing jack when I'm only told one side and that one side makes themselves look like an innocent little angel who only ever does the right thing and is only thinking of their fans.

Look, I feel I'm repeating a lot of things I've already gone over here. If you have something direct you want to ask - start a private convo with me.
Not going to happen.

First, the developer, Uberpie, hasn't communicated on here in 6 years. He communicates in his Patreon with updates and sometimes on his Discord. He's not even going to see your demand.

Second, Uberpie sucks at estimating release dates. Anything more than 2 weeks out for an estimate and he'll blow the date by a long shot.

Third, it's at least a month, if not two months (or even 2025), before whatever they are calling "Season 1" will be sent to Steam for consideration.

So I would recommend just relaxing and finding something to do during the wait.
The Netorare (NTR) route is supposed to be an alternate route from nearly the beginning. However, the only part that has been implemented as part of the first half of "Season 5" (v1.07.3).

I would broadly agree with the view that what Uberpie put out about the correspondence from Patreon is untrue. the TOS/guidelines for Patreon are largely to bring them in with compliance with the law in the countries that they operate in to mean they can't be held for distributing, or assisting in the production of, illegal material. To not keep a paper trail of their actions to show that they did something to protect themselves from possible legal action is unlikely.

In terms of the update, I thought the update before this one said they were in playesting, which makes me think it is closer than that, but I may have mis-read

 

[Count Morado]

In terms of the update, I thought the update before this one said they were in playesting, which makes me think it is closer than that, but I may have mis-read

It takes them at least one month, sometimes 2 or longer to play test, based upon past releases. Once it took them about three and then required a full month of bug fixes after that.

Uberpie did announce that 25 Jul. However neither of the next 2 updates mention anything about how play testing is going.

 

[Numbleddddd]

Anyone know how to unlock the gallery

 

[BlaBlaCat]

What "second hidden, scary meaning" are you referring to? This is the second time you have brought this up. Please be clear in what you are asking - if you are scared for some odd reason to bring it up in a public forum - message me, because this is ridiculous. Your tinfoil hat is showing. Calling him "victim" is silly. And your whataboutism saying other "top projects" is weak. Patreon works on a spot-check and reporting system to review creator content. Uberpie isn't the only "top project" to have been removed in the past year due to issues with content.

Uberpie already was on his "second chance" since 2018 when "Family Tales" became "Taffy Tales" and relationships changed in order for Uberpie to have a Patreon account.

Depending upon the content that is in question, Patreon may or may not give developers time to fix a game... if the content is too proliferated throughout the game or the content is too extreme (i.e. such as too young, which is not the factor of this game) or a developer is noncommunicative or has already been given a second chance in the past... there are a variety of factors. Bottom line is that it is easy to see with various content examples Uberpie included ran afoul of Patreon TOS/community guidelines - TOS/guidelines which had not changed in substance since before Uberpie started work on the game.

If you are strictly taking Uberpie on his word for what Patreon says, then that's on you. It's his side of the story only - with nothing showing to back that up. Simply his word. If you trust him that much, fine. If what he says fits your world view of an evil, malicious and capricious corporate Big Brother trying to stomp all over the little guy, that's your prerogative, too. But for me, I'm not believing jack when I'm only told one side and that one side makes themselves look like an innocent little angel who only ever does the right thing and is only thinking of their fans.

Wow, I tried to be extremely polite, but it's useless with you. You're quite primitively twisting the conspiracy theory—this is about you, don't put your tinfoil hat on me. I believe his words and the words of other developers, while you just have a rather strange resentment and simply don't believe them. You don't have the other side of the conflict that reflects your opinion, my aggressive, overly confident (without clear reason) friend. Is Uber lying? Are other developers complaining about the same support issues lying? Is the Earth flat? It's quite amusing how you try to reduce your thoughts to the idea that everyone is lying except you (or Patreon? Maybe you asked them?).

All this is generally quite normal, and everyone has their own opinion, but you are a moderator and speak with such aplomb as if you have secret knowledge and are lecturing others. Will you delete this message of mine or answer what your ironclad confidence that everyone is lying except Patreon is based on? Maybe you'll argue that other developers' works have no fewer Patreon rule violations, but they stay afloat, and all checks and deletions are some kind of roulette? Nobody talked about angels, yet another amusing twist lol. So, will you answer, my friend? What makes you think you know better how Patreon support works? What makes you think Uber is lying, and why would he do that? I think he would be happy to remove the red flag content and continue working.

Please don't delete this comment and lay out on the table why we should believe you and not the developer and others like him. They are in the industry, and you are just a literate, attentive moderator on the forum. Don't be offended; there's nothing personal here, really.

 

[BlaBlaCat]

He communicates in his Patreon with updates and sometimes on his Discord. He's not even going to see your demand.

Second, Uberpie sucks at estimating release dates. Anything more than 2 weeks out for an estimate and he'll blow the date by a long shot.

He replies in subscribestar, and yes - he sucks at estimating release dates. That's true.

 

[Sanda Bidge]

Hey guys I stopped right before the AI shenanigans. Is there any progression in Tiffany, Priscilla and Stacy routes? And does Ryoko show up again?

 

[BlaBlaCat]

Hey guys I stopped right before the AI shenanigans. Is there any progression in Tiffany, Priscilla and Stacy routes? And does Ryoko show up again?

In version 0.95.7, there was quite a lot with Priscilla and Tiffany. Then, there seemed to be a bit more, but I'm not sure. In the teasers of the new update, there was a hot scene with Priscilla in a BDSM mask and Danny (or his sister, I didn't quite get it), but after the Patreon ban, they seemed to have switched to Steam. At first, he used AI very awkwardly (as well as 3D and photobashing), he was learning. But now everything seems really cool. Though it’s a matter of taste, I find Daz3D annoying, but people like it. I don’t know about Stacey.

 

[bobofthebush]

It takes them at least one month, sometimes 2 or longer to play test, based upon past releases. Once it took them about three and then required a full month of bug fixes after that.

Uberpie did announce that 25 Jul. However neither of the next 2 updates mention anything about how play testing is going.

I shall bow to your knowledge of how long, historically, the game has remained in playtesting. I had assumed, based on the finished product, that playtesting did not take too long. I can now only assume that, at the start of playtesting, the game does not even load.

 

[BlaBlaCat]

I shall bow to your knowledge of how long, historically, the game has remained in playtesting. I had assumed, based on the finished product, that playtesting did not take too long. I can now only assume that, at the start of playtesting, the game does not even load.

Yes, you're both absolutely right about this issue. Maybe they just chose the wrong name for this development phase? Something like - omg why the heck won't this damn thing start?

 

[reeroll]

Wow, I tried to be extremely polite, but it's useless with you. You're quite primitively twisting the conspiracy theory—this is about you, don't put your tinfoil hat on me. I believe his words and the words of other developers, while you just have a rather strange resentment and simply don't believe them. You don't have the other side of the conflict that reflects your opinion, my aggressive, overly confident (without clear reason) friend. Is Uber lying? Are other developers complaining about the same support issues lying? Is the Earth flat? It's quite amusing how you try to reduce your thoughts to the idea that everyone is lying except you (or Patreon? Maybe you asked them?).

All this is generally quite normal, and everyone has their own opinion, but you are a moderator and speak with such aplomb as if you have secret knowledge and are lecturing others. Will you delete this message of mine or answer what your ironclad confidence that everyone is lying except Patreon is based on? Maybe you'll argue that other developers' works have no fewer Patreon rule violations, but they stay afloat, and all checks and deletions are some kind of roulette? Nobody talked about angels, yet another amusing twist lol. So, will you answer, my friend? What makes you think you know better how Patreon support works? What makes you think Uber is lying, and why would he do that? I think he would be happy to remove the red flag content and continue working.

Please don't delete this comment and lay out on the table why we should believe you and not the developer and others like him. They are in the industry, and you are just a literate, attentive moderator on the forum. Don't be offended; there's nothing personal here, really.

He does lie an example is the change for the main route without prior notice nor explanation with just a teaser for a different route than announced.second he changed his overall creative direction for AI art + AI dialogues which aren't checked.
That's why you shouldn't take his speech for granted.
just take a look at his actions not the words to evaluate someone's honesty.

As for the ban I agree with you patreon does ban countless people and often for dumb reasons.But the fact he tells he wasn't told the reason is a bit suspicious,even if you are banned they always tell you the reason.Pixiv for example is Powertripping on double standard they will allow the most violent,morally wrong content for if you are japanese but if you are a NON-japanese you will get scolded even for nudity (censored penis which wasn't there prior)
kinda racist tbh

 

[BlaBlaCat]

He does lie an example is the change for the main route without prior notice nor explanation with just a teaser for a different route than announced.second he changed his overall creative direction for AI art + AI dialogues which aren't checked.
That's why you shouldn't take his speech for granted.
just take a look at his actions not the words to evaluate someone's honesty.

1. I don't quite understand what the lie is regarding the route change and what change you're referring to (is this a separate NTR project build?). How do you even imagine notifying about all changes in the plot? I'm not trying to exaggerate, I really just don't understand what you're talking about. And again, the word "lie" doesn't quite fit here.

2. Regarding AI, I’ll say right away - I agree that I am also not a fan of AI and how it has cluttered all the galleries, etc. There’s no point in talking about all the memes about AI artists either, since it's all quite amusing for now. But he never said he doesn’t use it (i.e., there was no lie).

However, as I see it, he is trying to apply it, first terribly clumsily, then a bit better, and now I really like how AI helps him in his work, although again not without mistakes (fingers lol). I generally don't always understand and see the question – is it AI or not? This means the approach works overall.

As I wrote above, the attitude towards AI now is approximately the same (although who am I kidding, it’s much worse since the threat to artists unwilling to adapt is much more serious) as it was to 3D tracing, rendering, and photobashing in its time. At first, everyone raged, then most artists in the industry started using it. It’s pretty much the same here. Apparently, Uber is afraid to directly say that he uses AI (but again, he’s not lying):
a) Because of the huge backlash in the community, which is really enormous
b) Because everything initially came out very clumsily, and that’s a fact he tries to hide and justify by redrawing unsuccessful experiments.

In other words, he is a controversial figure and inclined towards novelties and shortcuts. But he has never openly lied. In my opinion, his biggest sin is how he crudely photobashed and used references at the beginning of his career when his drawing skills were still weak.
I can't guarantee that he never lied, but I don't see any reasons for it. (Yes, I'm trying to justify again that he’s not my idol, lol).