Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[firetemplar415]

Download the 0.06.1. Fresh install. Use the laptop and see if that helps.
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I installed that update and did the quests from 4 updates ago to the new ones. Now the event wont trigger.
Or do you mean to install the update again and start from the last save? (which is still stuck on that quest.)

 

[HopesGaming]

Download the 0.06.1. Fresh install. Use the laptop and see if that helps.

I installed that update and did the quests from 4 updates ago to the new ones. Now the event wont trigger.
Or do you mean to install the update again and start from the last save? (which is still stuck on that quest.)
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The laptop contains a new bugfix section

 

[mahmouedsamy]

The DeLuca Family [v0.05] [HopesGaming] - Original Size: 1.51 GB yep

 

[firetemplar415]

I installed that update and did the quests from 4 updates ago to the new ones. Now the event wont trigger.
Or do you mean to install the update again and start from the last save? (which is still stuck on that quest.)

The laptop contains a new bugfix section
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It worked. thank you for clearing up this issue.

 

[Minion_of_Luna]

Ugh!! What's taking so long with the next update? It's been a whole week already! Darn these slow Devs and their quality content.

 

[spellbreaker]

What/Who will the next update focus on, has it been announced?

 

[HopesGaming]

Venoma
Thank you for your review but I have to add something as it keeps irking while reading it.
Firstly, thank you for taking your time to review and make it so in-depth. This is in no form or shapes a way to discredit your review or want you to change the rating of it.
But but but.
Your whole premise of the game review is based on what a porn game in a porn site is supposed to be. And with that thought, you are completely right on your analyses of a porn game.
One BJ scene after so much story content is never acceptable. How could it be? The main focus is the porn.
There is just one minor detail tho;
My game is not a porn game, it's an adult game. In adult games, sex is not always the main focus (Especially not in this one).
I have made the game based on that and that is what most expect. And hence the confusion with you remark on the 200 reviewers. They didn't review the sexual content. They reviewed the adult game for what it was meant to be.

About the site being a porn site? That is wrong as well. Otherwise, my game would have been removed long time ago. They wouldn't have added so many games that have no sexual content nor even add a 'no sexual content' tag. Why would a porn site allow none sexual content on their site? Only an adult game would add such a thing.

To make it more clear;

Porn; Focus is sex. Be it soft-core or hard-core, sex is the focus.

Adult; This is a bit wider. Usually games with heavy nudity and heavy adult stories (violence, drama or/and sexual stuff). Adult games can also contain sex, however. But is not obligatory.

Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that. Thanks for the review.

Ugh!! What's taking so long with the next update? It's been a whole week already! Darn these slow Devs and their quality content.

I am ashamed of myself!

What/Who will the next update focus on, has it been announced?

I haven't really announced it probably.
There are planned new gameplay elements (the whole mission board system has gotten a revamp)
The whole thing has been paid for (well, not technically, but I will soon pay him. If you see this mr. coder don't worry) as I would rather have a proper coder do it. It is also done (the framework, not the content nor the gui).
But but but, not sure if I even use the new gameplay even if it has been paid for.
Have to see if people will like it and if it not too much of a timesink. Story and game is still the main focus.

Eiza is also a focus. That I can say.

More after the small update.

 

[MonkeyLord]

To be fair, HopesGaming, I'm sure this is not the first time and won't be the last you, me or someone else keep having to repeat the lines: "Adult game isn't the same thing as porn game. And this site is for adult games and contents, not porn games specifically." This last 7 days alone I've already had to repeat it twice and now you have to say it once in the last 10-15 pages of the thread. People are still going to make that assumption for... reasons, and we're doomed to keep repeating the lines like a broken record.

Like seriously, the "About us" of the site has 0 mention of the word "porn". People just think "adult" = "porn" for some reasons...

 

[Venoma]

Venoma
Thank you for your review but I have to add something as it keeps irking while reading it.
Firstly, thank you for taking your time to review and make it so in-depth. This is in no form or shapes a way to discredit your review or want you to change the rating of it.
But but but.
Your whole premise of the game review is based on what a porn game in a porn site is supposed to be. And with that thought, you are completely right on your analyses of a porn game.
One BJ scene after so much story content is never acceptable. How could it be? The main focus is the porn.
There is just one minor detail tho;
My game is not a porn game, it's an adult game. In adult games, sex is not always the main focus (Especially not in this one).
I have made the game based on that and that is what most expect. And hence the confusion with you remark on the 200 reviewers. They didn't review the sexual content. They reviewed the adult game for what it was meant to be.

About the site being a porn site? That is wrong as well. Otherwise, my game would have been removed long time ago. They wouldn't have added so many games that have no sexual content nor even add a 'no sexual content' tag. Why would a porn site allow none sexual content on their site? Only an adult game would add such a thing.

To make it more clear;

Porn; Focus is sex. Be it soft-core or hard-core, sex is the focus.

Adult; This is a bit wider. Usually games with heavy nudity and heavy adult stories (violence, drama or/and sexual stuff). Adult games can also contain sex, however. But is not obligatory.

Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that. Thanks for the review.

Fair enough from a technical difference standpoint. Although in my own head at least and in the process of labeling it such there really wasn't much of perception difference tbh. Adult game. Porn game. Regardless what it's supposed to be fairly classified as here anything I do download is done with the same exact core intent behind it, like most others coming here to do similar I assume. Which again, don't get me totally wrong there either as I do respect the trying to be more about story then the other games out there, and which as I pointed out in that respect you are succeeding in spades.

But speaking of spades, at the end of day it also is what it is from my pov. For as much as you want to make it about the story, it's still the expectation of sex that is the driving force at the heart of your game and all it's lead characters. Since without that I think it is more then fair to say that you don't have a game a lot of those patrons are helping to pay for, much less one here that is sitting at those 200+ reviews if the expectation that they'll get their opportunity to at least have sex with their gal of choice wasn't there in the end.

So with my edit changing the porn game label to adult game, I still respectfully believe my review and from the intended perspective it was written holds up. I do sincerely apologize if my too casual use of the porn label did offend your efforts though.

 

[MonkeyLord]

Fair enough from a technical difference standpoint. Although in my own head at least and in the process of labeling it such there really wasn't much of perception difference tbh. Adult game. Porn game. Regardless what it's supposed to be fairly classified as here anything I do download is done with the same exact core intent behind it, like most others coming here to do similar I assume. Which again, don't get me totally wrong there either as I do respect the trying to be more about story then the other games out there, and which as I pointed out in that respect you are succeeding in spades.

But speaking of spades, at the end of day it also is what it is from my pov. For as much as you want to make it about the story, it's still the expectation of sex that is the driving force at the heart of your game and all it's lead characters. Since without that I think it is more then fair to say that you don't have a game a lot of those patrons are helping to pay for, much less one here that is sitting at those 200+ reviews if the expectation that they'll get their opportunity to at least have sex with their gal of choice wasn't there in the end.

So with my edit changing the porn game label to adult game, I still respectfully believe my review and from the intended perspective it was written holds up. I do sincerely apologize if my too casual use of the porn label did offend your efforts though.

Literally in the FAQs section of the OP:

And the warning is repeated like every few pages that fans of the game are here because of the story and writing, not so much the sex. I don't think anyone's recommended this game, in its entire existence of nearly 2 years, for the sex. Because, well, it didn't even exist prior to 0.06.

 

[zero942]

this update is focus in who?

 

[MonkeyLord]

this update is focus in who?

And you couldn't have just scrolled up like a few post to see the same question getting answered before asking it?

 

[Venoma]

Literally in the FAQs section of the OP:
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And the warning is repeated like every few pages that fans of the game are here because of the story and writing, not so much the sex. I don't think anyone's recommended this game, in its entire existence of nearly 2 years, for the sex. Because, well, it didn't even exist prior to 0.06.

And given what I already stated in the previous post....that ultimately changes or discredits what exactly in my review?

Or I guess maybe I'm just not translating that out as the same automatic "get out of jail free card" within my review's own perceived lack of "stimulating" gameplay given the fairly ample amount of time I invested into playing through it (without money cheats too btw, and fwiw would of been a great place imo to include some optional side character action to bridge that gap i referred to). I mean at the end of the day you almost make it sound like I'm missing some "Blueball" tag in that very generalized description of the game given there, which for the record also arguably implies more of an equal split of story and adult at that.

Like I said before...from my perspective it is what it is. Everybody has different tastes and expectations in their adult games. Some are going to play through 6 hours of that and be perfectly happy with the story aspect. Some love their super slow burns and will conclude with a "damn I can't wait to bang Luna in a future update". Others, like myself, are going to find the adult to story ratio here in an adult game as a notable overall con.

My review is my own personal take on that latter.

 

[MonkeyLord]

And given what I already stated in the previous post....that ultimately changes or discredits what exactly in my review?

Or I guess maybe I'm just not translating that out as the same automatic "get out of jail free card" within my review's own perceived lack of "stimulating" gameplay given the fairly ample amount of time I invested into playing through it (without money cheats too btw, and fwiw would of been a great place imo to include some optional side character action to bridge that gap i referred to). I mean at the end of the day you almost make it sound like I'm missing some "Blueball" tag in that very generalized description of the game given there, which for the record also arguably implies more of an equal split of story and adult at that.

Like I said before...from my perspective it is what it is. Everybody has different tastes and expectations in their adult games. Some are going to play through 6 hours of that and be perfectly happy with the story aspect. Some love their super slow burns and will conclude with a "damn I can't wait to bang Luna in a future update". Others, like myself, are going to find the adult to story ratio here in an adult game as a notable overall con.

My review is my own personal take on that latter.

Wasn't trying to discredit you in anyway. Was just pointing out two misinformed assumption you made:

1. Most people downloaded the game wanting the sex more than anything else. If people read the FAQs and the repeated warnings, or the reviews, they'd already know the sex is next to non-existence. And you should not download if that's purely what you're looking for in a game.

2. Adult means sex. As it has been repeatedly explained. Adult is an umbrella term for sex/lewd, and so much more, examples being torture, violence, abuse, etc. And this is classified as an adult game more because of other "adult factors" such as violence, abuse rather than just sex. Even now you're still using "adult" as another word for "sex". After reading Hopes' explanation, you only change "porn" into "adult", but still use the term like it's just an interchangeable term for "porn" rather than understanding it for what it really is, an umbrella term to describe anything not meant for children's consumption.

 

[c3p0]

Fair enough from a technical difference standpoint. Although in my own head at least and in the process of labeling it such there really wasn't much of perception difference tbh. Adult game. Porn game. Regardless what it's supposed to be fairly classified as here anything I do download is done with the same exact core intent behind it, like most others coming here to do similar I assume. Which again, don't get me totally wrong there either as I do respect the trying to be more about story then the other games out there, and which as I pointed out in that respect you are succeeding in spades.

But speaking of spades, at the end of day it also is what it is from my pov. For as much as you want to make it about the story, it's still the expectation of sex that is the driving force at the heart of your game and all it's lead characters. Since without that I think it is more then fair to say that you don't have a game a lot of those patrons are helping to pay for, much less one here that is sitting at those 200+ reviews if the expectation that they'll get their opportunity to at least have sex with their gal of choice wasn't there in the end.

So with my edit changing the porn game label to adult game, I still respectfully believe my review and from the intended perspective it was written holds up. I do sincerely apologize if my too casual use of the porn label did offend your efforts though.

To add my own two cents here, as others have done it before. I also concure with MonkeyLord and HopesGaming: Adult is not a synonym to porn it is rather an umbrella term of porn. As such an adult game can have porn in it, but don't must have porn in it to be classified as an adult game.
If on this site most adult games are also porn games then it is so, but that don't mean that it can't have adult games with none or only few porn content in here. For what all what's it worth this game is proper labeled and in the first post it is also decleared what this game is. And I believe, that since we have this - tags and the statement on the first post - it should be clear what kind of game this one is.

So to be blunt, if you don't like this game because it has no porn in it and are not happy with it, then you have only yourself to blame for. For me it looks like I'm going in a Apple shop and only because allmost all mobile phone shops have Android phones, I'm unhappy that I don't find an Android phone in this Apple shop.

Also as I'm one of his supports, small one but one, I disagree with another statement of you.
I would and will support HopesGaming as long as he is stay to true to his own believes and develop the game. If the porn comes not until update 0.20 then so be it. I rather wait than feels like the porn is forced in the story - that and I'm sure Wilfred and Gottardo would kill me otherwise.

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I am ashamed of myself!
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Sure, shame on you. After we all have some much time, I was certain the next update will be on the first next month.

 

[HopesGaming]

To be fair, HopesGaming, I'm sure this is not the first time and won't be the last you, me or someone else keep having to repeat the lines: "Adult game isn't the same thing as porn game. And this site is for adult games and contents, not porn games specifically." This last 7 days alone I've already had to repeat it twice and now you have to say it once in the last 10-15 pages of the thread. People are still going to make that assumption for... reasons, and we're doomed to keep repeating the lines like a broken record.

Like seriously, the "About us" of the site has 0 mention of the word "porn". People just think "adult" = "porn" for some reasons...
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I know, and it will always be the case. But I just have a 'bad' habit of wanting to reply to everything

Fair enough from a technical difference standpoint. Although in my own head at least and in the process of labeling it such there really wasn't much of perception difference tbh. Adult game. Porn game. Regardless what it's supposed to be fairly classified as here anything I do download is done with the same exact core intent behind it, like most others coming here to do similar I assume. Which again, don't get me totally wrong there either as I do respect the trying to be more about story then the other games out there, and which as I pointed out in that respect you are succeeding in spades.

But speaking of spades, at the end of day it also is what it is from my pov. For as much as you want to make it about the story, it's still the expectation of sex that is the driving force at the heart of your game and all it's lead characters. Since without that I think it is more then fair to say that you don't have a game a lot of those patrons are helping to pay for, much less one here that is sitting at those 200+ reviews if the expectation that they'll get their opportunity to at least have sex with their gal of choice wasn't there in the end.

So with my edit changing the porn game label to adult game, I still respectfully believe my review and from the intended perspective it was written holds up. I do sincerely apologize if my too casual use of the porn label did offend your efforts though.

Again, I didn't want to make you change your review or have to make you feel like you need to defend yourself.

Just wanted to clarify; Your review is based on what you wanted from the game instead of what the game is supposed to be.
"it's still the expectation of sex that is the driving force at the heart of your game" Absolutely not. Not even close and I wouldn't have gotten patrons and supporters if that was the case. Remember, your expectations are yours and other people's expectations are theirs. It's a dangerous territory to try to make your own views and expectations upon others.
"Since without that, I think it is more than fair to say that you don't have a game a lot of those patrons are helping to pay for"
I don't believe that is fair to say at all. The overall consensus is that the story is what is the driven force and what they support the game for. Of course, the adult part is still something they look forward to.

"I do sincerely apologize if my too casual use of the porn label did offend your efforts though."

Not at all, just my dev biased mind that wanted to reply and clarify stuff, heh. Again, nothing wrong with your view or review.

Again, I am making an adult game. A game that focuses heavily on the story and where sex is not the main focus. The adult part involves nudity, the more sensual stuff such as fondling and kissing (porn usually do not consider this anything important). It can also be an update where there are almost none of those but where the adult consists of violence.

That will always be what I will make and what I will market it as. And also, using the reviews and comments as data, it is also what most people expect when downloading the game and hence they do not get disappointed.
Remember, the BJ scene got added this release. Prioer to this, there were nothing. And yet, many people still loved it.

 

[Game Bond]

Sad to hear you feel like that!
Tho something to add;

This was my own decision. I have never been affected (and never will be) by anyone. I will always make the game as I want it to be and Isabel netori has always been part of the plan.
Isabel is not least liked by the Family. She and Gracie just had a dispute. Nothing to do with the rest.
The MC 'perveted side' has always been on the talk. One of his 'flaws'. (Remember the talk with Jalen about being a perveted Demon?)
Isabel didn't cheat on Antonio. That was a micalculation from Gracie's side.
It's an option. So, you can choose to only be friends with her and all of the issues disspear. (For the people that go the netori route- they are the one in control)

About some of the less 'realistic' sitauations. That is where we have to add a bit of 'porn logic' in it. Yes, they can stay in the living room and mess around a bit. Even tho it's not totally realistic, I don't mind that part but understand it can be a dealbreaker for some.

As I said before I want this game to go by the script that Dev has planned and the future events should not be shaped by opinions of other people and Dev has finally proved that! I really appreciate Dev for going with the script, thank you.

 

[Larry Kubiac]

Just wanted to clarify; Your review is based on what you wanted from the game instead of what the game is supposed to be.
"it's still the expectation of sex that is the driving force at the heart of your game" Absolutely not. Not even close and I wouldn't have gotten patrons and supporters if that was the case. Remember, your expectations are yours and other people's expectations are theirs. It's a dangerous territory to try to make your own views and expectations upon others.
"Since without that, I think it is more than fair to say that you don't have a game a lot of those patrons are helping to pay for"
I don't believe that is fair to say at all. The overall consensus is that the story is what is the driven force and what they support the game for. Of course, the adult part is still something they look forward to.

"I do sincerely apologize if my too casual use of the porn label did offend your efforts though."

Not at all, just my dev biased mind that wanted to reply and clarify stuff, heh. Again, nothing wrong with your view or review.

Again, I am making an adult game. A game that focuses heavily on the story and where sex is not the main focus. The adult part involves nudity, the more sensual stuff such as fondling and kissing (porn usually do not consider this anything important). It can also be an update where there are almost none of those but where the adult consists of violence.

That will always be what I will make and what I will market it as. And also, using the reviews and comments as data, it is also what most people expect when downloading the game and hence they do not get disappointed.
Remember, the BJ scene got added this release. Prioer to this, there were nothing. And yet, many people still loved it.

The lack of sex is made up for by the story, erotic games are also needed to be a pornographic game. I know one who doesn't like it because of the lack of sex, tastes and colors are difficult to share...

 

[Larry Kubiac]

HopesGaming if you want to solve the translation problems on your game, you take what I did and apply it to all languages and the quests shouldn't have too many translation problems anymore.

 

[Minion_of_Luna]

So I was in the Twitterverse earlier and I noticed on HopesGaming 's page that some people were offering to provide a pretty nice EDC / gentlemen's carry blade so he could do a giveaway.
I wonder who the lucky person will be. I'd try for it myself but I already have that particular piece.

Oh and also I wonder how long until we learn more about our "contract" that the family has over us. And what will happen when it expires.