Maybe you have the same prob with me ,have you completed the contract mission?
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I was just going to say that you might need to start over.
Thankfully it's not too far in!
I've added the WT guide for the 2 missions, to my post, above. Hope that's some use.
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I'm sorry I can't contain myself look at my baby look at my baby
just look at my motherfucking baby
I call this one here comes the motherfucking bride
cough thank you and goodnight
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s stands for start, p starts for painter, r is for residential, t is for tavern, R is the ruined houses and above are in order the church and the cemetary.
You have to do things in order for the things to happen. Indeed, if you go to the church at the fountain before you talk to the painter there won't be any perception checks.
So, in summary, go to the painter, interact, ask about the old man and the young lady, go to the tavern, interact then threaten, go to the fountain, pass the check, go east, interact, look around, things will happen, do not steal the painting,
go the church, interact, the priest will confess, then you can go to the cemetary and explore. Exactly as outlined in the guide. Then go to the paitner, interact, go to the ruins, confront the young lady, go to the painter again, interact and things will happen.
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ooh you want cute I'll give you cuteThat lil' embarrassed pout, in the bottom pic! So fucking cute!
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Oh you're right. My bad. Thought I had collected it, but it seems I didn't.
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One suggestion for HopesGaming
Please consider replacing the hard requirements with die rolls for the stat checks in the Contract Missions.
As it stands now, many posters have expressed that it feels like a grind, and TBF it is. Grind money to get gear, get gear to grind more money to get better gear to get more money and so on.
For example: In Nimble Fingers, house on the left.
A player goes into there with no prior knowledge. Fails the sneak. Fails mission.
Goes and buys beanie, tries, fails again.
Goes and buys pants, tries, passes.
There is no thrill, anticipation or sense of accomplishment to it. Hard checks take that away.
A die roll/random num generator (say of 0.5 increments to max 3) would give a person with just the default 1 stealth 1/6th of a chance to pass (while those with pants/beanie will still have 100% chance). One may even attach rewards to it ala pass 4 stealth checks above your level adds 1 stealth to your stats permanently or something. This would make the contracts akin to a D&D text game and encourage riskier play over rotte play.
An analogy might be an MMO or RPG. Imagine if they made it a restriction that you can never defeat a monster that is a higher level than your PC. The game would get boring real quick. Beating a monster/clearing a cave etc. that is at a higher level to yourself via luck or skill is where the "yee hah!" moments lie - and makes things fun rather than pure grindy.
Just a suggestion for consideration.
Please consider replacing the hard requirements with die rolls for the stat checks in the Contract Missions.
As it stands now, many posters have expressed that it feels like a grind, and TBF it is. Grind money to get gear, get gear to grind more money to get better gear to get more money and so on.
For example: In Nimble Fingers, house on the left.
A player goes into there with no prior knowledge. Fails the sneak. Fails mission.
Goes and buys beanie, tries, fails again.
Goes and buys pants, tries, passes.
There is no thrill, anticipation or sense of accomplishment to it. Hard checks take that away.
A die roll/random num generator (say of 0.5 increments to max 3) would give a person with just the default 1 stealth 1/6th of a chance to pass (while those with pants/beanie will still have 100% chance). One may even attach rewards to it ala pass 4 stealth checks above your level adds 1 stealth to your stats permanently or something. This would make the contracts akin to a D&D text game and encourage riskier play over rotte play.
An analogy might be an MMO or RPG. Imagine if they made it a restriction that you can never defeat a monster that is a higher level than your PC. The game would get boring real quick. Beating a monster/clearing a cave etc. that is at a higher level to yourself via luck or skill is where the "yee hah!" moments lie - and makes things fun rather than pure grindy.
Just a suggestion for consideration.
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A lucky win can be good, it may be a relief and a surprise, but there's no talent on my behalf involved, so nothing for me to pat myself on the back for.
A skillful win, which you worked to gain the necessary stats, worked out the plan and executed it perfectly? Absolutely.
Don't think these 2 can be conflated, though.
As an ex-player of many mobile games that employ it, I can honestly say that I absoluely detest RNG as a game mechanic.
For me, it's not an achievement to gain something, if it's simply a random occurrence.
It generally only feels good, because you've done the same thing x50 and got frustrated/disappointed with receiving garbage, before it decided to randomly award the item you want/need.
I view it as an achievement to work towards something, build our stats high enough & devise a strategy to conquer it, then beat it.
I earned that. That's satisfying. It's within my control. Not a random die roll gave it to me.
It's really not that big of a deal, here, anyway. The analogy you gave is for something extremely difficult. This is really not.
Completing a couple of objectives in the 1st contract only requires the purchase of a hat and trousers, which you can afford from the start.
You can run the 1st contract a few times, just with the 2 stealth thefts & this will give you enough to buy equipment and gain a promotion.
When you have earned enough for better equipment, you can then earn more from the mission, by completing more of the objectives due to the increased stats.
n.b. You also increase your stats by completing Side Missions, for the girls.
Isabel's grant Charisma.
Gracie's grant Intelligence.
Luna's grant Agility.
I thik it's a total of x3 points for each stat, from the girls.
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That's the thing though. There is absolutely no strategy involved in the missions. It's pure pass or fail based on a defined number, so what you are describing is the definition of grind to win.
It's like playing snakes and ladders where the guy who shows up with the nicest jacket always gets ladders while the other guy will always get snakes. Not that fun I'd imagine.
I think what is meant is
Having a fixed stats for success
But if the stat is not high enough it will call a dice as an extra way to gain success based on rng.
The closer you are to the real stat the higher the chance will be. Untill 100% that is.
Having a fixed stats for success
But if the stat is not high enough it will call a dice as an extra way to gain success based on rng.
The closer you are to the real stat the higher the chance will be. Untill 100% that is.
Hmm, I think it makes people more willing to go for opportunities they normally know they would fail otherwise.
Also, it would give the MP stats a better meaning as know you don't fail it 100% of the time but have a chance to succeed.
Not saying I am adding it or not. Just trying to think of all the possibilities.
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Yeah, I get it as something to say it's not Y/N, it's closer to Y depending how close to the threshold you are.
Seems like quite a bit of work for limited gain.
Expect/hope that most people will just see that they need X amount, so go and gain X amount.
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For this bit, specifically, I guess I play games differently.
I simply saved, before a new contract, noted what the skill checks required, then reloaded & worked to earn them by doing other contract requirements and side missions, until I had enough & knew I would not fail.