ItsNotUs

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I like the interactive! Does it affect the plot or just the dialogues?

Is it possible to see the raw pack here or is it exclusively for patreons?

Can girls make decisions without the influence of the potion if MC go down the "bad" path?
 

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I like the interactive! Does it affect the plot or just the dialogues?

Is it possible to see the raw pack here or is it exclusively for patreons?

Can girls make decisions without the influence of the potion if MC go down the "bad" path?

It affects both dialogues and the storyline (in the future).


The RAW-pack is essentially a collection of rejected artworks that didn’t make it into the hot-scene. To generate a single high-quality image, AI needs 10-20 attempts. As a result, I end up with dozens of decent images that are available only for Tier IV as behind-the-scenes material, etc.


Yes, the girls have a corruption variable, and by accumulating it, they can independently start different "relationships" without the Pusher. By the way, the Pusher can not only make them more depraved but also the opposite. After all, you will have control. For example, you can refuse to take off clothes in a scene, and so on.
 
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xXwankerXx

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The RAW-pack is essentially a collection of rejected artworks that didn’t make it into the hot-scene. To generate a single high-quality image, AI needs 10-20 attempts. As a result, I end up with dozens of decent images that are available only for Tier IV as behind-the-scenes material, etc.
So, paywall galore till the end, huh ??:cautious: No offense, but that's a very a bad idea for a first game, where the whole point of sharing it on sites like F95 and interacting with your fans and potential new fans is to attract as many subscribers as possible so you can work full-time on the project, a thing you probably can't afford to do at the moment.

Not only that, but in a game like a this one, where the MC was, is and probably still will be till the end of the story a spineless beta retard acting all butthurt about all the bullying he went through cuz of those three bitches but without actually doing anything to turn the tables on them and get his sweet ass payback when a golden opportunity like the one in that town presents itself, the better and safer option would be to make as much content and as less sandbox/free roaming as possible, IMO.

I'm pretty sure most non NTR/romance fans won't even bother to give the game a go when they see the "loser" part of the title under formerly known as and read the overview, lurking a lil bit in the thread and reading some of your replies regarding the stuff that'll happen in the story won't do any positive PR for you either, which means you'll start right off the bat with a small audience compared to what you could've had if the MC changed or kept his beta bitch attitude depending on what choices the player makes and if you didn't remove those scenes from the game so only tier IV subscribers can have access to them.

This is my personal opinion on this matter that you should take with a grain of salt and not consider harsh criticism, but again, personally, I don't really get why you'd remove those spicy scenes with the girls only to paywall them when this is a decision a lot of users have a problem with in other threads and it's more counterproductive than financially beneficial at the moment and in the long run.:unsure::WaitWhat:

the girls have a corruption variable, and by accumulating it, they can independently start different "relationships" without the Pusher. By the way, the Pusher can not only make them more depraved but also the opposite. After all, you will have control.
This sounds great in theory, but with an MC this unlikable and wimpy that's still treated like shit by Bianca and Tori, it won't change too many opinions about the story and the events unfolding there.
 

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So, paywall galore till the end, huh ??:cautious: No offense, but that's a very a bad idea for a first game, where the whole point of sharing it on sites like F95 and interacting with your fans and potential new fans is to attract as many subscribers as possible so you can work full-time on the project, a thing you probably can't afford to do at the moment.

Not only that, but in a game like a this one, where the MC was, is and probably still will be till the end of the story a spineless beta retard acting all butthurt about all the bullying he went through cuz of those three bitches but without actually doing anything to turn the tables on them and get his sweet ass payback when a golden opportunity like the one in that town presents itself, the better and safer option would be to make as much content and as less sandbox/free roaming as possible, IMO.

I'm pretty sure most non NTR/romance fans won't even bother to give the game a go when they see the "loser" part of the title under formerly known as and read the overview, lurking a lil bit in the thread and reading some of your replies regarding the stuff that'll happen in the story won't do any positive PR for you either, which means you'll start right off the bat with a small audience compared to what you could've had if the MC changed or kept his beta bitch attitude depending on what choices the player makes and if you didn't remove those scenes from the game so only tier IV subscribers can have access to them.

This is my personal opinion on this matter that you should take with a grain of salt and not consider harsh criticism, but again, personally, I don't really get why you'd remove those spicy scenes with the girls only to paywall them when this is a decision a lot of users have a problem with in other threads and it's more counterproductive than financially beneficial at the moment and in the long run.:unsure::WaitWhat:
What was removed?
 

xXwankerXx

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What was removed?
Dev's response on this is literally two posts above yours.

Just want MC to taste Zoes chocolate ring.
Stick to 'booty', man. Don't give the dev any wrong or right, depending on how you look at it, ideas.

I completely agree tho. Would love to fuck Zoe in the ass real hard, balls-deep too and make the MC shove his dick down Bianca's slutty throat afterward or something sweet like that for the money shot.:sneaky:
 

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So, paywall galore till the end, huh ??:cautious: No offense, but that's a very a bad idea for a first game, where the whole point of sharing it on sites like F95 and interacting with your fans and potential new fans is to attract as many subscribers as possible so you can work full-time on the project, a thing you probably can't afford to do at the moment.

Not only that, but in a game like a this one, where the MC was, is and probably still will be till the end of the story a spineless beta retard acting all butthurt about all the bullying he went through cuz of those three bitches but without actually doing anything to turn the tables on them and get his sweet ass payback when a golden opportunity like the one in that town presents itself, the better and safer option would be to make as much content and as less sandbox/free roaming as possible, IMO.

I'm pretty sure most non NTR/romance fans won't even bother to give the game a go when they see the "loser" part of the title under formerly known as and read the overview, lurking a lil bit in the thread and reading some of your replies regarding the stuff that'll happen in the story won't do any positive PR for you either, which means you'll start right off the bat with a small audience compared to what you could've had if the MC changed or kept his beta bitch attitude depending on what choices the player makes and if you didn't remove those scenes from the game so only tier IV subscribers can have access to them.

This is my personal opinion on this matter that you should take with a grain of salt and not consider harsh criticism, but again, personally, I don't really get why you'd remove those spicy scenes with the girls only to paywall them when this is a decision a lot of users have a problem with in other threads and it's more counterproductive than financially beneficial at the moment and in the long run.:unsure::WaitWhat:



This sounds great in theory, but with an MC this unlikable and wimpy that's still treated like shit by Bianca and Tori, it won't change too many opinions about the story and the events unfolding there.
For me, a paywall is when a part of the content is taken and locked behind paid access. The RAW pack is not content in itself—it’s not part of the story, it’s not cut content. It’s a byproduct that still holds artistic value, and I’m sharing it with fans.
To create 10 images for Zoe’s bar scene, it took me two days, while the AI-generated materials for that scene were done in two hours. Would it be easier for you if I just deleted the rest of the images? You should be interested in the game getting more support—after all, the more gigabytes of video memory I have, the more possibilities open up, right?

About our character's personality… You're trapped by the title of the game, which I changed a few updates ago. They're teenagers, and their relationships are complicated. Only a few days have passed in the game. Relationships don’t change that quickly or suddenly — at least not here.


But thanks for the feedback!
 

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It affects both dialogues and the storyline (in the future).


The RAW-pack is essentially a collection of rejected artworks that didn’t make it into the hot-scene. To generate a single high-quality image, AI needs 10-20 attempts. As a result, I end up with dozens of decent images that are available only for Tier IV as behind-the-scenes material, etc.


Yes, the girls have a corruption variable, and by accumulating it, they can independently start different "relationships" without the Pusher. By the way, the Pusher can not only make them more depraved but also the opposite. After all, you will have control. For example, you can refuse to take off clothes in a scene, and so on.
For me, a paywall is when a part of the content is taken and locked behind paid access. The RAW pack is not content in itself—it’s not part of the story, it’s not cut content. It’s a byproduct that still holds artistic value, and I’m sharing it with fans.
To create 10 images for Zoe’s bar scene, it took me two days, while the AI-generated materials for that scene were done in two hours. Would it be easier for you if I just deleted the rest of the images? You should be interested in the game getting more support—after all, the more gigabytes of video memory I have, the more possibilities open up, right?

About our character's personality… You're trapped by the title of the game, which I changed a few updates ago. They're teenagers, and their relationships are complicated. Only a few days have passed in the game. Relationships don’t change that quickly or suddenly — at least not here.


But thanks for the feedback!
Off-topic question - have you worked with Flux?
 

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Dev's response on this is literally two posts above yours.



Stick to 'booty', man. Don't give the dev any wrong or right, depending on how you look at it, ideas.

I completely agree tho. Would love to fuck Zoe in the ass real hard, balls-deep too and make the MC shove his dick down Bianca's slutty throat afterward or something sweet like that for the money shot.:sneaky:
Don't be a smart ass, I was asking a legit question. You're saying he doesn't include rejected art to non subscribers is paywall? A lot of creators give extras like that to subscribers.
 

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Don't be a smart ass, I was asking a legit question. You're saying he doesn't include rejected art to non subscribers is paywall? A lot of creators give extras like that to subscribers.
I didn’t see your question right away. Nothing is cut, nothing is shortened — neither in terms of the story nor the sex scenes.
 
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Tried this for the first time. I like the visuals and the story. I'd appreciate a checklist for sexy scenes though, I think I tried 3 playthroughs with different choices and not much changed. You only get 2 scenes with Helena and if you drug Zoe you get a rapey scene at the end during her shift ? The Tori foot massage talk comes up twice but nothing about it I think, or maybe I just made the wrong choices, and nothing with Bianca either aside from the wet tower scene that you get regardless of your choices ?

Pretty short story so far but I'm looking forward to future updates.
 

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Not only that, but in a game like a this one, where the MC was, is and probably still will be till the end of the story a spineless beta retard acting all butthurt about all the bullying he went through cuz of those three bitches but without actually doing anything to turn the tables on them and get his sweet ass payback when a golden opportunity like the one in that town presents itself, the better and safer option would be to make as much content and as less sandbox/free roaming as possible, IMO.

I'm pretty sure most non NTR/romance fans won't even bother to give the game a go when they see the "loser" part of the title under formerly known as and read the overview, lurking a lil bit in the thread and reading some of your replies regarding the stuff that'll happen in the story won't do any positive PR for you either, which means you'll start right off the bat with a small audience compared to what you could've had if the MC changed or kept his beta bitch attitude depending on what choices the player makes and if you didn't remove those scenes from the game so only tier IV subscribers can have access to them.

This is my personal opinion on this matter that you should take with a grain of salt and not consider harsh criticism, but again, personally, I don't really get why you'd remove those spicy scenes with the girls only to paywall them when this is a decision a lot of users have a problem with in other threads and it's more counterproductive than financially beneficial at the moment and in the long run.:unsure::WaitWhat:



This sounds great in theory, but with an MC this unlikable and wimpy that's still treated like shit by Bianca and Tori, it won't change too many opinions about the story and the events unfolding there.
MC took revenge on the trio a number of times during high school (physically and verbally). It was more a fight between them, than being bullied. The dev has already admitted the title was misleading and fixed that.

I've played the romance and both corruption paths and Tori and Bianca are not treating my MC like shit (apart from a few outbursts, that you would expect as enemies move into friends). In fact on romance paths it is clear Tori already likes him, and Bianca is starting to think about it. My MC is not acting wimpy and is not taking crap from anyone.

The sandbox/free roam is not very much and I definitely wouldn't call it grindy.

And, there is no scenes or story behind a paywall. It's all there. Only special renders are restricted, which is no different to 100s of other devs.
 

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This thing about them driving around in the car and always stopping in the same city reminded me of the series From, only here there aren't those monsters.
 
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There is no sandbox tag in the tags nor future tags either. Why is that?

There's no sandbox tag because, at the moment, this feature is in its early stages. And even when I finish it, it won’t be a sandbox. You'll simply be able to move freely within the starting district of the city (where we are now), and the story will no longer teleport you between the bar and home. You'll decide whether to go and haul boxes at the bar or pay Ian for food and lodging in some other… uh… way.


Future tags can't be added here because they might spoil the story. The game's script is designed so that the player never knows for sure what lies ahead — at least as much as possible. This sense of the unknown is an important part of the narrative.
 

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Tried this for the first time. I like the visuals and the story. I'd appreciate a checklist for sexy scenes though, I think I tried 3 playthroughs with different choices and not much changed. You only get 2 scenes with Helena and if you drug Zoe you get a rapey scene at the end during her shift ? The Tori foot massage talk comes up twice but nothing about it I think, or maybe I just made the wrong choices, and nothing with Bianca either aside from the wet tower scene that you get regardless of your choices ?

Pretty short story so far but I'm looking forward to future updates.
No, there won’t be any rape scenes or even sex at the end of Zoe’s first shift.


There won’t be any rape at all — not just because it’s apparently banned on Patreon, but also because if a client could just rape a girl, then what’s the point of all this corruption, potions…? And besides, if someone tried, Helena would come running at the first scream and shove the guy’s dick into a tentacle plant pot. Who would go for that?
 

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Don't be a smart ass
Me telling you the dev's answer to your question was two posts above yours is just a simple observation to avoid repeating what he already said in his reply, not a smart ass remark or tone policing.:rolleyes:

For me, a paywall is when a part of the content is taken and locked behind paid access. The RAW pack is not content in itself—it’s not part of the story, it’s not cut content. It’s a byproduct that still holds artistic value, and I’m sharing it with fans.
But that's exactly what you did there, canonical material or not, it's still content... wouldn't make sense to keep it for high tier patrons only if those renders were made just for practice and the lolz lol.

Look, I understand the development of a porn game takes a lot of time, resources and effort on the dev's part to get it done, I really do and have nothing but respect for all devs who give their best for their fans, but those 'raw packs' as you call them still have content, a good amount of content that could've been used as canonical material for the game.

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So, as you can see in these renders in the spoiler tag, there's quite a bit of useful stuff there. Ignoring the 1st and 4th, the 2nd and 3rd are sex scenes you can't exactly pretend are useless or just a random bonus, cuz that's exactly what paywalling is and why a lot of users hate it.

Now, I know someone wanting to jack off to them or just admire them 'artistically' only has to pay 12$ to get them, but this sets a precedent other ppl who'd otherwise be interested to subscribe might have a problem with it. Just a suggestion, you do you and what you think it's best for the game.

I've played the romance and both corruption paths and Tori and Bianca are not treating my MC like shit (apart from a few outbursts, that you would expect as enemies move into friends). In fact on romance paths it is clear Tori already likes him, and Bianca is starting to think about it. My MC is not acting wimpy and is not taking crap from anyone.
Lol, need I remind you they only came there to party and hookup and the MC is nothing more than a low-budget personal driver and chaperone ??

Bianca keeps bossing the MC around, looking down on him and making it abundantly clear she doesn't give too many fucks about him on a lot of occasions, but sure, if you consider the guy not wanting to play bellboy for her and screaming at the girls for not respecting him a sign that he left his past wimpy self behind, I can pretend I agree.

Just for context tho, in the spoiler bellow is what he actually looks like... draw your own conclusions, cuz I don't have any expectations from a guy looking like he belongs in a sissification simulator and am here just to see how all this supernatural stuff will impact the story and to get to the sex scenes with the girls, especially with Helena. Don't really care about this idiot of an MC or his fate, but will stick around for a few more updates to see how events unfold.
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Also, Bianca and the other two are forced to put up with him or 'like' him simply bcuz single women get abducted and taken to those infamous mines, where they get who-knows-what done to them. If they somehow could leave town, I'm pretty sure they'd do it without looking back and giving a shit about him afterward, probably steal the car and leave the poor idiot there. Just sayin', and I'm honestly not blaming them for not being attracted to a cringey idiot like him.
 
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Hi, this game looks amazing. I'm really interested in the workflow you used for these images, would you be willing to share what models and loras you used?
 
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