Ren'Py Abandoned Vis [v2.0] [Mad King Games]

[Cartageno]

its not a tip jar,what are you smoking? Those are not donations but subscriptions for updates,content and above all for the completion of games,its a kickstarter,they get money for the games,its no donation

Let me stop you right there because at least for Patreon you don't need to smoke anything. Unless explicitely promised otherwise by a creator, Patreon indeed is a tip jar in a way, not directly connected to any tangible results (even though without any results people would of course unsubscribe in droves), it is not connected to any completion of a project - many of the projects on there don't even have anything you could call completeable. It is precisely a donation that fans give creators so that they can continue their work without having to worry about sales or catering to algorithms or similar. It is completely different from Kickstarter in that regard.

 

[JJJ84]

Stealing money is always serious,you cant say that and not be lying or delusional,its always the fault of those who make the demand not those who supply them,the fans are to blame,if you cant see the bigger picture then dont talk,sueing them IS NOT pointless cause they need to answer for any kind of fraud,its not a tip jar,what are you smoking? Those are not donations but subscriptions for updates,content and above all for the completion of games,its a kickstarter,they get money for the games,its no donation,even if so this system can be easily abused and IS abused. Milking is very real,if you rather put your hand in the sand and keep spending like a good sheep then dont blame us for not wanting that,this goes beyond just one update,again no awareness for the bigger picture.2 years is overboard for you sheep?

lol you seriously need to learn (or re-learn) what is Patreon and how it works.

This is literally the first thing which pops up when it's searched in google:



So it's not like a contract where if he doesn't deliver the update dev has a legal obligation to deliver.
Onus is entirely on the Patron to whether support (or continue to support. They may decide to stop supporting the dev and decide to support another dev who they think is more worth supporting) the said dev or not.

 

[Karl Speidel]

You are only reinforcing my point that the fans are to blame,they take off with your money and you defend them to your last cent,hmm,maybe you deserve it. What a vicious cycle but im sure the 100th time the dev wont run away with money.

 

[riasgremoryloveher]

such good well written vn comes to an end ..there will hardly anything close to vis lvl this days

 

[Daastaan007]

Dev started a new game after abandoning it and it's prequel too.

 

[TrenciJack]

Shit, man. This was one of the good ones. All three games I remembered and checked are abandoned. WTF?!

 

[Cyan_z]

So I guess this game is officially over, isn't it? The last time I saw a comment from the dev, he said he wouldn't abandon this game but he would focus on Highway to Hell for a while, but now even that game seems abandoned too lmao. He even closed all his accounts? What a shame.

 

[Deleted member 7872389]

It’s just a shame we never got to fuck Morrigan.

 

[AwsHen]

Shit, man. This was one of the good ones. All three games I remembered and checked are abandoned. WTF?!

I feel you dude , many incredible games that I've bookmarked also have been abandoned, and the infuriating thing is the good ones are being abandoned while mediocre games are being continued, like, WTF!!!, ideally it should be the complete opposite but I don't even know why its the opposite of that in reality.

It’s just a shame we never got to fuck Morrigan.

yes I've been looking forward to it a lot but what a letdown

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I feel you dude , many incredible games that I've bookmarked also have been abandoned, and the infuriating thing is the good ones are being abandoned while mediocre games are being continued, like, WTF!!!, ideally it should be the complete opposite but I don't even know why its the opposite of that in reality.

yes I've been looking forward to it a lot but what a letdown

It kind of goes back to the old cliché about sex selling. But when you're comparing games or AVNs with sex to others that also have sex, the more accurate thing to say would probably be that mediocrity sells. There are some really great games / AVNs that also do very well. But those aren't the lion's share of what succeeds, sadly.

If you pay attention as you go around the site, you'll see a lot of posts whining that there's not sex in the first release of a game — the first release, like buildup, story building, and character establishment aren't important. "Just get to the sex already!" As often as you see that is an indication of where culture unfortunately is: consume and move on, consume and move on. Few folks appreciate good storytelling, realistic development of relationships between characters, and having a payoff. The outcome is that developers who otherwise might keep working hard on their projects become disheartened, or even forced out by reality.

 

[Eliza12]

I feel you dude , many incredible games that I've bookmarked also have been abandoned, and the infuriating thing is the good ones are being abandoned while mediocre games are being continued, like, WTF!!!, ideally it should be the complete opposite but I don't even know why its the opposite of that in reality.

yes I've been looking forward to it a lot but what a letdown

Many western eroge devs are simply too lazy to finish their games, while others just see it as an easy and quick bucks, and ditch when they realize it's not. This is why I mainly play Japanese eroge, even the shittiest ones are still at least finished.

 

[storm1051787]

Many western eroge devs are simply too lazy to finish their games, while others just see it as an easy and quick bucks, and ditch when they realize it's not. This is why I mainly play Japanese eroge, even the shittiest ones are still at least finished.

It's not laziness so much as most western devs have no idea what they're doing. The majority of western games on this site come from first time devs with no coding experience or writing experience and often underestimate the amount of work involved in making these games. Most also have a real job on top of developing the games since It's usually either a quick cash grab that gets abandoned after 2 or 3 updates because they realize the amount of work that goes into these games isn't worth the little bit of pay you'd get from patreon/subscrubestar , or it's just a passion project that the dev started on the side without much planning and that keeps going until one of 3 things happens. The dev keeps working on the game until they get burnout and loose interest in the project and abandon it, 2 they have no idea where they are going with the story and just keep adding update after update like it's a sitcom until they get tired of it and make a rushed update that ends kind of abruptly, or 3 they don't have time to work on the game and do real life stuff like they're actual job since only like 5% of western devs make enough doing this to work on it full time


The first one is pretty much what happened here. The dev expressed several times that the felt burn out and lost his passion for the project and started High way to hell because of that, then quit once he noticed he was losing subscribers.

 

[COOLMASTER]

FUCK YOU BANDONED HIGHWAY TO HELL YOU ABANDONNED v0i0s a magnific game

FUCK GET YOU YOU FUCKING AS AND FINISH VIS.

 

[Avaron1974]

FUCK YOU BANDONED HIGHWAY TO HELL YOU ABANDONNED v0i0s a magnific game

FUCK GET YOU YOU FUCKING AS AND FINISH VIS.

I can see you are angry but was there any need to curbstomp grammar like that?

What did it ever do to you?

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

FUCK YOU BANDONED HIGHWAY TO HELL YOU ABANDONNED v0i0s a magnific game

FUCK GET YOU YOU FUCKING AS AND FINISH VIS.

Just so I'm interpreting your post correctly...

It sounds like you're upset that the game's been abandoned. (Just a wild guess here.)

 

[c3p0]

I can see you are angry but was there any need to curbstomp grammar like that?

What did it ever do to you?

The grammar nazi wasn't nice to him.

 

[JJJ84]

FUCK YOU BANDONED HIGHWAY TO HELL YOU ABANDONNED v0i0s a magnific game

FUCK GET YOU YOU FUCKING AS AND FINISH VIS.

lol Given English is also my second language I won't roast you much on your grammar (cause we all need to start somewhere).

But having said that, you really thought throwing a fit like this towards the dev who literally erased almost all traces of himself on this site, (which includes his Patreon, Twitter, Instagram, Discord etc etc) and up and left for good will make a difference (other than you.... venting)?

Good luck with that

Post like this, literally just reminds me of this scene;

Spoiler: lmao

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[-CookieMonster666-]

Any recommended that is similar to this game where you can choose being Good Or Evil Ruler?

FYI, you shouldn't be asking for recommendations of other games on this game's thread, something that is against Site Rule #2.4 — even for games long abandoned. Rather, you should ask that question over on the Recommendations and Identification forum, set up specifically for that. If there isn't already one over there, you can start a new thread. If you do so, I'd suggest linking to the OP of this game so those seeing it can see the game you're asking about.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Sometimes I come back here and cast an emotional glance at this grave, and say to myself : it was nice all the same, too bad he left too soon. I think this AVN had a real charm and great potential, but it's a shame that the dev crashed all his projects.

Didn't he launch a new AVN fairly recently ? I thought I'd seen him on another game. I remember the dev stood up to someone on that other game thread and said he was 100% going to finish this new game and that VIS was definitely not abandoned in the long run, whether he was sincere or not at the time is a bit ironic. And I saw that he almost deleted all his accounts.
So I guess he's either gone or for good, or he's decided to change his identity on the net and publish other games under a different pseudonym.

-CookieMonster666- Don't forget, if you'd like, applications for the site moderator job are open You already seem to be doing that job here on this thread, so I suggest you apply. ^^

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Sometimes I come back here and cast an emotional glance at this grave, and say to myself : it was nice all the same, too bad he left too soon. I think this AVN had a real charm and great potential, but it's a shame that the dev crashed all his projects.

Didn't he launch a new AVN fairly recently ? I thought I'd seen him on another game. I remember the dev stood up to someone on that other game thread and said he was 100% going to finish this new game and that VIS was definitely not abandoned in the long run, whether he was sincere or not at the time is a bit ironic. And I saw that he almost deleted all his accounts.
So I guess he's either gone or for good, or he's decided to change his identity on the net and publish other games under a different pseudonym.

-CookieMonster666- Don't forget, if you'd like, applications for the site moderator job are open You already seem to be doing that job here on this thread, so I suggest you apply. ^^

I'm not trying to be a moderator and don't even remotely want to become one. It's shocking how many people aren't even aware this is in the site rules. I'm only trying to inform people so they will know. I've seen posts on several threads get deleted for violating that rule, and I've heard of (but cannot confirm) there have been warnings issued to some folks, too. I assume everyone in these threads wants to keep using the site and avoid issues.

I do find it hilarious how many people actually get upset that I'm trying to help them out. "Don't you dare tell us that someone could report our post and get us in trouble!" A good deed never goes unpunished, apparently. I couldn't actually give a rat's ass if someone gives an angry reaction to my post, though. If you get upset that someone offers advice, that sounds like a you problem.

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