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Numerous reasons...then the dev decided to start a new game. Take that as you will.
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no no no no no no SHIT why what Happened MAD KING you Give 100 Hopes and Toke it ALL why
I Trusted your Talent, I trusted That you Won't Give it Up I'm Sad that you Let the Light of Great story & Plot sinking Like a Fish with No arms & Tail
I Trusted your Talent, I trusted That you Won't Give it Up I'm Sad that you Let the Light of Great story & Plot sinking Like a Fish with No arms & Tail
Dev said he felt burnt out so he stopped the game to develop a new one. Personally I feel like a remake if this game is more likely than him continuing it at this point.
Hi all!
Thank you for your messages! First, Vis is not abandoned, at least not for me. F95 moderators have set the tag.
The plan is that after Highway to hell, I will return to Vis and upgrade it. That means an improved story, graphics, and features to enhance the experience as it should have been. I made mistakes, but I plan to fix them, and Highway To Hell is a break for me to deliver something good (at least how I see it) and prepare the Vis upgrade.
To all those who are saying that I will abandon my games, I have two words:
Yours,
MK
Thank you for your messages! First, Vis is not abandoned, at least not for me. F95 moderators have set the tag.
The plan is that after Highway to hell, I will return to Vis and upgrade it. That means an improved story, graphics, and features to enhance the experience as it should have been. I made mistakes, but I plan to fix them, and Highway To Hell is a break for me to deliver something good (at least how I see it) and prepare the Vis upgrade.
To all those who are saying that I will abandon my games, I have two words:
Yours,
MK
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I'll keep my mouth shut and not accuse of anything, but hope you prove them wrong... cause you had a lot of greatness going on with Vis...fucked it up... tried to make it into something it's not... and now it's sitting here stale.
Vis was the first game I ever developed, and yes, maybe I let my passion be above my experience and I thought I could make it more than a VN because I wanted to deliver the full experience that I had in my mind. In the end, I will make things right.
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I hope so... this was really good. You were on the right path. You should at least be proud of that.
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I have to agree with GetOutOfMyLab! Vis was already great and still you wanted what a studio full of coders and designers consistently fails to do. Something like Skyrim, Mass Effect or Dragon Age (the first and second ones). Even Skyrim took years of modding to reach what it is today...
Believe me, it was a sad day for me when you announced it was stopping. I told you then it was one of my all time favorites and still is. My "personal" hall of fame has around 25 titles, most of them finished, from hundreds of AVNs I played, and Vis has a solid seat there.
I really wish you get back to it and hopefully I'll be here to see it completed and support you to get there.
While waiting, I'm watching Highway to Hell with interest.
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Like others, kinda sad when I saw that Abandoned tag. This became a "must play" for me and sincerely, I don' t think it needs an upgrade and just updates, but I guess you as Dev must feel pleased by your product too. Don't let this die, you have something good going on here.
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Lets be honest, that right there is years of work just to get to where it already is in the story.
No one wants "features", they just want a solid story and decent renders.
No one is clamoring for sandboxes, mini-games , quick-time-events or any other crap.
Just doing a decent story/plot and decent renders is already years of work for one person.
Just do those two core things well is all anyone really wants.
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It won't happen anyway. No matter how much work there is.
His other game, Vis Origins, was put on hold so he could finish Vis first then return to Origins.
Now this is put on hold so he can focus on Highway to Hell but he'll finish Vis once that one is finished.
Sensing a pattern? He can't complete one. He puts it on hold, starts another, puts it on hold, etc etc...
I give it a year or two before we hear that Highway to Hell has been put on hold until he finishes New Game Name.
Which is a shame. I really enjoyed Vis.
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Playing through 1.6 now and I don't really see much that needs to be changed. Story and prog seem top notch, perhaps maybe just animations?
Were you thinking character models or some such?
Unpopular opinion but I actually prefer sandboxes over vns. Kind of makes them feel more like a game and give a lot more freedom when it comes to presuing love interests. VNs often force you to sit through scenes involving characters you don't care about just to get to ones you do. The only issue I have with them is that a lot of devs don't know what to do with the sandbox so they just add a bunch of grind in order to prevent you from progressing to fast.
Like minigames are fine, but the player shouldn't be forced to do them in order to progress.
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Yes, it is an unpopular opinion and there are very good reasons for that.
No.
A sandbox VN is just a glorified scene selector with a bunch of wasted clicking for zero gain.
You're clicking location icons on a map, most of which have nothing going on at any given point in the story, in stead of just making a decision that leads directly into the next scene like a normal VN does.
It is functionally the same as making a list of currently available scenes and letting the user click on them, except you waste time clicking around locations with nothing going on.
Then it goes worse when some idiot decides that not only should you click location icons but then also only at a specific time of day would a scene be available.
It only feels like a 'game' to people who lack critical thinking skills.
Wrong, you're confusing VN with KN.
VN is the digital version of a CYOA book with images that paint the scene behind the text.
KN is what you're describing, where you don't have choices, it's just a story with images.
There is nothing that a sandbox achieves that can't better be served by a standard VN choice/decision system.
There is a reason why sandboxes are universally unpopular.
You'll see many requests for a non-sandbox remake but you'll never see people wishing that a Vn was a sandbox, except as a joke.
Even in the best sandbox VNs, like Love of Magic, the sandbox is tolerated, not lauded.
Also even in a VN like that with loads of content and that is now finished, the majority of locations have nothing new going on most of the time.
No VN has ever been improved because it turned into a sandbox, the reverse is almost always true though.
The reason why sandboxes are insanely unpopular is because too many of them are grindy as fuck. Sandboxes done write are pretty popular which is why some of the msot popular games on this site are sandboxes. And no I'm not confusing visual novel with kinetic novel. Sandboxes often let you peruse any love interest you want in any order. Vn force you to sit through content your not interested in or characters your not that interested in just to get to ones you are. Your only option in most of those vns at best to avoid that content is to simply do something that cuts off all future content with that character instead of just not wanting a scene with them at that moment. Sandboxes feel more like an rpg with character quests and side quests.
As for clicking locations on that map. I really don't see what's wrong with that. Or really understand your points. Very and I mean very few sandboxes actually had moments where you click a location and nobody is there. Most sand box games always have a character that at a certain time and the map is basically just click to go to a persons house. Most games either tell you where a person is at a certain time and when somebody is there or rarely have the characters go more than like two locations(usually just their job and their home).
There has never been a time when I'm just looking around clicking trying to find something. And that goes back to what I was saying about having more freedom with perusing love interests. Map says that Cindy is in the part I'm going to click on the park and see if I can advance her storyline.
Really most of your complaints about sandboxes have never applied to most of the sandbox games I've played. Maybe one or two crappy ones but far from the majority. And honestly that complaint isn't even that bad. I hated the sandboxes that forced you to repeat content over and over again to get something new more than I have ever hated having to use a map to get around.