VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

I have to please my fans. It's a shame that I can't talk more about the SG topic, anyway, knowing my best Ocean, he's capable of anything, and I say that because there were scenes that weren't anything special and he removed them, so I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of S1 from WIAB, many scenes changed or were removed, by the way how are you my old friend? I really liked your theories.

I'm good, still theorising

My gut being a weirdo suggest that WiaB is safer from reworks. Ultimately though, Ocean releases whatever he releases. He put work into the first 3 chapters, and it's very improved over the old one where the MC changed hairstyle three times in one scene. I feel that not enough is mentioned that throwing away renders is equivalent to throwing away moments of your life. Ocean spent time on all the the things he changed, ultimately we either trust his story over the next 25 chapters for WiaB or we don't. I'll keep my eyes open, knowing that he does want to creat impressive immersive experiences, and he will get better at it - SG was the first fully commercial release, but WiaB is his first love, he is less likely to compromise on this (which is why he restarted when it began to look crap as he progressed) than on SG. Having said that, I'm pretty sure he's going to focus on driving the deal know, and using the steam sales to negotiate better contracts... so he can spend time agonising over the renders Good looking Katie, Miru and Dapne are worth the wait.

All that needs saying.

Well, yes. This deserves a react ...and I am fresh out. They have us on rations I tell ya!

 

[Maviarab]

Good looking Katie, Miru and Dapne are worth the wait

All that needs saying.

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And to everyone else, please, enough with the jokes and bitching. This is perfectly safe from the SG issues. Don't bring the fucking drama of that over here please.

 

[Winterstale]

Well, after delving deep into the older version of WIAB until its very limits, I must confess... I'm downright relieved about the remake. While the storyline and concept managed to hold my interest, the characters were as aesthetically displeasing as a frog in a blender. Now, I see why Miru received such disdain initially, but in the rework, she's undergone a stunning metamorphosis from an unsightly caterpillar into a breathtaking butterfly

Skipping past the dated visuals, the core concept and narrative of the old version held a captivating allure. Now, I'm curious about the depths the rework will plunge into...

Guess it's time to dive back into the new WIAB and cleanse my vision...

 

[Maviarab]

Well, after delving deep into the older version of WIAB until its very limits, I must confess... I'm downright relieved about the remake. While the storyline and concept managed to hold my interest, the characters were as aesthetically displeasing as a frog in a blender. Now, I see why Miru received such disdain initially, but in the rework, she's undergone a stunning metamorphosis from an unsightly caterpillar into a breathtaking butterfly

Skipping past the dated visuals, the core concept and narrative of the old version held a captivating allure. Now, I'm curious about the depths the rework will plunge into...

Guess it's time to dive back into the new WIAB and cleanse my vision...

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Enjoy and yes, more need to understand that this is a very, very different beast and story to SG.

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

Guess it's time to dive back into the new WIAB and cleanse my vision...

+1 have a great time and enjoy

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well, after delving deep into the older version of WIAB until its very limits, I must confess... I'm downright relieved about the remake. While the storyline and concept managed to hold my interest, the characters were as aesthetically displeasing as a frog in a blender. Now, I see why Miru received such disdain initially, but in the rework, she's undergone a stunning metamorphosis from an unsightly caterpillar into a breathtaking butterfly

Skipping past the dated visuals, the core concept and narrative of the old version held a captivating allure. Now, I'm curious about the depths the rework will plunge into...

Guess it's time to dive back into the new WIAB and cleanse my vision...

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I actually think it's going to be more intense. Maybe not the same plot points, but imagine the prison scenes with OCean's current renders... I'd be boiling not being able to lift a finger. Leia already has far more 'teeth', the family dynamic actually feels like the house is lived in and you can feel the tensions. And when people are crying it actually has gravity. So yeah, I'm a big fan of what we've got now.

 

[Maviarab]

damn it's a nice avn, but compared to SG too short also Katie & MC is a "light" version of Bella & MC

Light version?

 

[Raynare69]

I actually think it's going to be more intense. Maybe not the same plot points, but imagine the prison scenes with OCean's current renders... I'd be boiling not being able to lift a finger. Leia already has far more 'teeth', the family dynamic actually feels like the house is lived in and you can feel the tensions. And when people are crying it actually has gravity. So yeah, I'm a big fan of what we've got now.

What were the prison scenes like in the old version? I never did check it out but am curious if you could give me the full run down / spoilers and all, if you don't mind!

 

[ToxicMelody1]

Oh no your gf is hot now after the update....so now I can't just willy nilly let the guys in prison fck her because I thought she was ugly asf!!!

 

[Maviarab]

What were the prison scenes like in the old version? I never did check it out but am curious if you could give me the full run down / spoilers and all, if you don't mind!

There were actually very few 'prison scenes'...but they mostly consisted of dealing with one of the guards (you could fuck her) and the boss man with Miru from memory (if you used Miru to appease him for protection). There were a number of ways of progressing through that and getting out either injured or uninjured (which then affected things with Katie).

 

[Raynare69]

There were actually very few 'prison scenes'...but they mostly consisted of dealing with one of the guards (you could fuck her) and the boss man with Miru from memory (if you used Miru to appease him for protection). There were a number of ways of progressing through that and getting out either injured or uninjured (which then affected things with Katie).

That actually sounds pretty interesting! Since the story is a bit different now, when exactly did this take place? I assume before the events of the current story? Since in the current story he said he wasn't able to come back sooner because he was in prison (but didn't go into detail about it)

 

[Maviarab]

That actually sounds pretty interesting! Since the story is a bit different now, when exactly did this take place? I assume before the events of the current story? Since in the current story he said he wasn't able to come back sooner because he was in prison (but didn't go into detail about it)

No this happened in the current (what was the current) timeline. He was really stiched up IIRC, whether he will do 'another stint' inside or not remains to be seen. The core of the story is the same but events are now largely different. How much will remain from the old plot we can only guess at, though the camping trip is still happening (where the old version stopped).

 

[BobTheDuck]

That actually sounds pretty interesting! Since the story is a bit different now, when exactly did this take place? I assume before the events of the current story? Since in the current story he said he wasn't able to come back sooner because he was in prison (but didn't go into detail about it)

I'll hide in spoilers, because even though old WiaB was restarted 3 years ago, some people don't know it and they won't want to hear it before/if it happens in new WiaB)

Willi either has sex with Donna Revera (who can get pregnant from it) while taking Lucas on a night out or encounters a girl called Ashley Treaster (from memory) who sets him up. in either case, he is accused of rape. Abigail knows it's fake, but has to send him to prison. The warden is corrupt and puts Willi in with the most violent inmates and makes sure they know he's a rapist. Uncle Joe is there and protects him. You can dominate one of the female inmates. But Joe is released, so you're left to decide to either beat up Abigails agent, get fucked up by the inmates because rapists are scum ...or offer the inmate's gang leader Miru when she visits, and he sends you videos of what he does to her.

This was probably about now in the story time wise - you hadn't learnt much more than in the new version by this point. A few other things had happened, but not really much more.

 

[Raynare69]

Thank you guys for the explanations! I think my own memory is pretty fuzzy of even the current state of the game, so I'm going to have to do a replay through here soon, since I just finished my recent SG replay.

 

[Maviarab]

Thank you guys for the explanations! I think my own memory is pretty fuzzy of even the current state of the game, so I'm going to have to do a replay through here soon, since I just finished my recent SG replay.

Always time for a new WIAB save

 

[Kakasan]

Thank you guys for the explanations! I think my own memory is pretty fuzzy of even the current state of the game, so I'm going to have to do a replay through here soon, since I just finished my recent SG replay.

I liked Old Prison for this reason:

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[murphy88]

Hi, I played chapter 3 beta, what is the difference with the full version? bug fixes only or is there more content?

 

[Maviarab]

Hi, I played chapter 3 beta, what is the difference with the full version? bug fixes only or is there more content?

Changelog...in the OP.

 

[Kakasan]

Hi, I played chapter 3 beta, what is the difference with the full version? bug fixes only or is there more content?

I only played the Beta, but from what they said there was a flashback in the full version

 

[BobTheDuck]

I'll hide in spoilers, because even though old WiaB was restarted 3 years ago, some people don't know it and they won't want to hear it before/if it happens in new WiaB)

Willi either has sex with Donna Revera (who can get pregnant from it) while taking Lucas on a night out or encounters a girl called Ashley Treaster (from memory) who sets him up. in either case, he is accused of rape. Abigail knows it's fake, but has to send him to prison. The warden is corrupt and puts Willi in with the most violent inmates and makes sure they know he's a rapist. Uncle Joe is there and protects him. You can dominate one of the female inmates. But Joe is released, so you're left to decide to either beat up Abigails agent, get fucked up by the inmates because rapists are scum ...or offer the inmate's gang leader Miru when she visits, and he sends you videos of what he does to her.

This was probably about now in the story time wise - you hadn't learnt much more than in the new version by this point. A few other things had happened, but not really much more.

Just to add to this:

The reason I find it interesting is that Donna is the FIRST person in the Oceanverse to get pregnant. Even if this is no longer canon, it has the impact that it is the very start of the Revera's allying with the Zane's - you can choose to protect Donna, so she can testify that it wasn't rape. It's the moment that she choses sides, and it's defined by a child, who is probably the Revera on the first team. We also have no idea if Donna is froma rich family, in both versions of the game she just seemed like an average person; so her social standing (ie being part of ZPR) could entirely be due to getting pregnant from Willi, and in gratitude for her choosing the Zane side in whatever happens.

This is even before we have an idea of when Ayua is conceived we don't even know if Ayua ISN'T the NTR child of a prisoner that WIlli raised in guilt for putting Miru through that whole situation where she sleeps with the prison gang boss to keep Willi safe.

I know these ideas are about info that's no longer canon, but it really is quite something to keep in mind about the direction of the game, and the kind of game Ocean's making, the kind of potential ideas that are floating around for Ocean's plot devics - it's really not a lightweight thing at all.