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Zeniks1895

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"The only person related to William (MC) is Leia."

I hope he means that in order for the non incestuous version of the game to make more sense he will make Leia the MC's sister, and for those who prefer to play with the patch he will still release patches. Hope springs eternal.
 

sorco2003

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"The only person related to William (MC) is Leia."

I hope he means that in order for the non incestuous version of the game to make more sense he will make Leia the MC's sister, and for those who prefer to play with the patch he will still release patches. Hope springs eternal.
How would it make more sense that Leia, with whom William fell in love and had libidinous encounters in his past, and who is an LI in his present, would be the sister for a version without incest? :unsure:
 

Zeniks1895

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How would it make more sense that Leia, with whom William fell in love and had libidinous encounters in his past, and who is an LI in his present, would be the sister for a version without incest? :unsure:
I mean, in general the non incestuous version of the game is weird and makes little sense (all the drama in the game looks at least bizarre if they aren't family). Making Leia the MC's sister will make the game make a little more sense, but in turn it won't appeal to those who prefer the non incestuous version of the game.
 
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weezal

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Nah I actually can’t stand Ocean tbh. The constant (sometimes unnecessary) changes is not a great business model. This guy needs a manager or something to stop him from going too far and to keep to the plan. Needs a bit of grounding.

Ocean has ruined Helen now. boo.
Hope there’s still patches or my disappointment will be immeasurable.
 

zandalari

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Nah I actually can’t stand Ocean tbh. The constant (sometimes unnecessary) changes is not a great business model. This guy needs a manager or something to stop him from going too far and to keep to the plan. Needs a bit of grounding.

Ocean has ruined Helen now. boo.
Hope there’s still patches or my disappointment will be immeasurable.
I won't go making strong statements like that myself, but the more time passes, the more it seems that he has no clue what the fuck he's doing. He has dropped the total number of chapters for each game before, which made me think the story was planned out earlier. Apparently not. How does the game being posted on other platforms suddenly mean the previous story decisions no longer make sense? I might be very fucking stupid, but this line
"How to publish WiAB on Steam/GOG and for the story, etc. to make sense?"
makes absolutely no sense to me. You either have the story mapped out, in which case it makes sense to you from the beginning. Or you're winging it all the way. In which case he perhaps needs a writer and he himself should stick to the visual aspect.

Though I dread the thought. Just imagine another rework "to make the story make more sense" a year from now. What a fucking mess. I have no one but myself to blame for liking his games.
 

weezal

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I won't go making strong statements like that myself, but the more time passes, the more it seems that he has no clue what the fuck he's doing. He has dropped the total number of chapters for each game before, which made me think the story was planned out earlier. Apparently not. How does the game being posted on other platforms suddenly mean the previous story decisions no longer make sense? I might be very fucking stupid, but this line

makes absolutely no sense to me. You either have the story mapped out, in which case it makes sense to you from the beginning. Or you're winging it all the way. In which case he perhaps needs a writer and he himself should stick to the visual aspect.

Though I dread the thought. Just imagine another rework "to make the story make more sense" a year from now. What a fucking mess. I have no one but myself to blame for liking his games.
Why would putting it on steam suddenly make the whole dynamic up to now impossible? How does making them adopted even improve anything? It’s really beyond me. I can only a suspect Ocean has no fucking clue what he’s gonna do.

Also this is a tangent but has anyone else noticed that there is basically no story in the whole game yet. Since william got the phone call from leia at the start nothing has really happened. There’s been conversations between characters and scenes but nothing is actually happening. I also think this is because Ocean genuinely has no idea what he’s doing until he does it.
 

Maviarab

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I keep thinking about the words used in the log. And I want to stop at the part of
"How to publish WiAB on Steam/GOG and for the story, etc. to make sense?"
As far as I know, Steam bans only a concept of AVNs, minors... That Leia and William have a love relationship established during those years would fall into that category... Monica would fall into that category....
How do you get this past Steam's censors?
Talking about it...knowing something may have happened in the past...is all fine. Just don't show it.


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As for the devlog itself...hmm....can't say I'm terribly impressed and makes no sense right now really, so we shall have to see how it pans out in the next few updates I guess.

As always, with Ocean, all we can do is wait and see.
 

RNasc4444

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Talking about it...knowing something may have happened in the past...is all fine. Just don't show it.


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As for the devlog itself...hmm....can't say I'm terribly impressed and makes no sense right now really, so we shall have to see how it pans out in the next few updates I guess.

As always, with Ocean, all we can do is wait and see.
Would you look at that, Mavi... Guess now we know why the gun was removed in SG, Ocean took it so he could endlessly shoot himself in the feet with it :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:


It's only a matter of time now until SG overtakes WiAB as the superior VN once again :LOL:
No amount of Katie is gonna save WiAB from the "everyone is adopted" retardation.

I vote for a new remake of both VN's with completely different backstories for all characters where no one is related from the get-go. And pray that whatever story Ocean originally concocted can still make a shred of sense...
 

Maviarab

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Would you look at that, Mavi... Guess now we know why the gun was removed in SG, Ocean took it so he could endlessly shoot himself in the feet with it :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:


It's only a matter of time now until SG overtakes WiAB as the superior VN once again :LOL:
No amount of Katie is gonna save WiAB from the "everyone is adopted" retardation.

I vote for a new remake of both VN's with completely different backstories for all characters where no one is related from the get-go. And pray that whatever story Ocean originally concocted can still make a shred of sense...
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yossa999

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“Rework! A new rework is coming! It's over!"
Gawd, there's a fucking dozen lines to change, he fixed more spelling errors in the last minute hotfix.
What is the fucking difference between roommates, old friends, and siblings? In the AVN world it's the same. Jeez.
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Kakasan

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If not even the Dev-Logs are coming out on the date, imagine the game then.
It's now that he's changing the story again, we already know that both games won't have an ending, much less it will reach the halfway point.

See yous again in 2026
When the update beta comes out
 

Jafo

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I wanted to know the differences between before and after rework and I was amazed. In the rework the graphics are far better, the characters are looking far better. And are candy eye for the player.

But in the rework you are really missing some scenes! There a lot of lewd scenes cut out to bring it to steam that it is almost criminal. For me personal it is a shame the dev did this. But he wants to earn money. For me it is really a degradation of this nice game. With all this lewd it has much more potention.

So if you want to see the goodies, just download the old stuff and enjoy!
 

txe320

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*Sigh*

Really?

I hope he'll change is mind, and I really hope it won't evolve into another remake, because I would be done with it.

So much potential and people told me how I needed to play this game and Summer's Gone because how amazing they are. And they are great game but, if he decides to remake it again, it's sadly not worth it to wait for this game anymore.:cry:
 
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