I deeply regret playing this game too early; I should have waited until it was fully released. It's really a shame. I can't help but wish there was a memory eraser.
If you check the first post, hit "Genre", and check "Planned", it'll show that "Harem" is one of the planned tags for this game. There's just no harem in the game, currently.
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To elaborate on this, it's also good to curb ones expectation a tad because harem doesn't automatically mean all of them. Might just mean that one of them is fine with having another woman in the situationship.
F95 is a bit lacking in more specific tags for shit like this.
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That is a good point there. Just because you can "bed" all the love interests, doesn't mean you will end up with all of them at the end. Some paths will close while others open and so on. I think Bare Witness have something like that?
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Yup, there's a trio ending for Bare Witness, and since f95 are lacking more specified tags, situations like that end up under 'harem' even though it isn't technically harem.
On F95 no, MC cheating would fall under the 'cheating' tag. NTR tag on F95 is generally only for netorase/netorare games.
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expect that is what the cheating tag is for not NTR so that would still incorrect.
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Huh, didn't know that and honestly I am a bit surprised given that it really doesn't give any indication that a harem would be a possibility at all. They're all essentially polar opposite of eachother in the most extreme ways and the MC isn't exactly a levelheaded individual.
It'll be interesting to see how that'll be implemented in a believable way and not just in a "haha porn gud" way.
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It is literally indicated in the main post here
But i agree, harem is never truly believable unless the game world and lore are build up for it (like Desert stalker for example).
Games like Wildcats, Eternum and other similar, you just have to disconnect your brain about it. There is just no way that many woman would be ok with this, that easily and with no drama.
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Either way, personally i like the game so far and I am curious how MC will convince Fiona to join. Is gonna be interesting to see that.
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Not gonna lie, I think I either didn't look at that or entirely forgot about it.
Yeah, that's very true, but it's also why I was caught offguard as Wildcats seemingly is aiming to be a bit more grounded and realistic than something like Eternum or other games, I just didn't see harem being in the cards for this game.Meabe37 said:
Well, guess time will tell on how it turns out, I hope it won't be too egregious as it just feels bad to have a decently serious game only to have it wreck your suspension of disbelief with one of the routes.
I guess I'll have to make a separate save to check that out as I currently just have everyone friendzoned to hell and back.
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I'm not saying that to bash on harems, i like them, it was just a fact. But you/we should not think to much about it, on how and why^^
Probably gonna be the same dumb trope any other AVNs does. "Girls are in love but not ready to commit - MC have therefore "free pass" (because the girls are "technically"not his GFs) and won't feel bad to date everyone (like romantic expectations are not a thing that exist lol) - Girls find out : "Oh wait you are seeing all the girls? Oh well no biggy. Actually we don't mind at all ! We actually all loves it so much ! It was our dream YAY ! ". I'm almost only half joking here lmao
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Man, i tried this game cos of the no incest warning, was thinking there's a hot mom or sister so players keep asking for incest or something. MC's family is not even in the picture, wtf lol.
But the game is really good. Been avoiding it cos of the school setting and sports theme, most in the genre are trash harem collector. Plus volleyball ain't my thing. This one actually has a good story, characters and a somewhat realistic depiction of university/school life.
But the game is really good. Been avoiding it cos of the school setting and sports theme, most in the genre are trash harem collector. Plus volleyball ain't my thing. This one actually has a good story, characters and a somewhat realistic depiction of university/school life.
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OK, so this I guess was originally an early project. Was thinking it was kinda odd that they would have a Bad Ending choice earlier on for a Side Story, but this makes sense now. Still, kinda a shame nothing came from it as it was actually kinda fun. Anyways, thank you so very much for this!!!
I honestly really don't like when harem games try and write some massively contrived mental gymnastics excuse for why the girls would be ok with being in a harem in some pointless attempt at believability. Just have the girls say they don't mind and call it a day. This is a genre that is inherently not realistic so attempting to stretch logic to make it more believable is redundant as it will never actually work and all it does is waste time that could be better served on actually developing the game in other ways. Some harem games can be downright exhausting with how much effort they spend in trying to justify the harem that they end up not having as much time for the actual harem.
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I mean.. I think it depends entirely on the game and the context of it. If it's a game that is generally on the more serious and realistic side, having like 17 women just go "nah this is fine" would be a pretty jarring turn of events and honestly would put me off the game entirely.
Harems aren't exactly something that you can just throw in and just not give a fuck about or just ignore justifying because it is a fetish, and just yeeting it into a game that might not do it well or just not justify/explain it properly and you'll piss of the harem fetishists AND the non-fetishists who are now confused as to why it's even there to begin with.
This game is a perfect example of how there needs to be a real good build up or justification for a potential (supposedly full) harem ending, because everything thus far has pointed towards a much more grounded and realistic approach to a game and none of the personalities seem even remotely compatible with eachother, the MC or ones that would go "nah it's cool" if they find out that the one they're interested in is fucking their other team members.
Pretty much any harem games I've seen on this site the issue with buying the harem doesn't really ever prop up. It's not exactly difficult to just say the game doesn't work under real world logic. To me it's about as asinine as complaining about a fantasy story being unrealistic because it has magic. The only thing that has ever mattered with things like this is internal consistency. If anything it becomes MORE jarring when games try to establish that usually a girl wouldn't be ok with being in a harem because you set that rule only to break it yourself justifying it with insane leaps in logic. If you never actually try and say that it's normal to be against a harem in the game's setting then you never have the issue with setting up the harem in the first place because without that explanation you can just assume it runs on it's own logic where harems are more ok.
Devs are literally creating a problem themselves and then working backwards to add in the solution to it. Can you not see how redundant that is? If you want to make a realistic story then maybe doing a harem isn't the best genre to dabble in. Sure it's possible to make it work but you're just adding in more work and it requires a lot more skill in writing to pull it off in a way that's actually worth it which I've only see a few games actually pull off. This game can have a harem fine just so long as it avoids the characters having realistic feelings towards harems. Don't do that and you don't need to explain anything. Internal consistency.
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That's.. a bit nonsensical. Having characters be against a harem when it pops up isn't somehow artifically creating drama for no reason, because who on earth would bring up harems in casual conversation?
How often have you discussed the intricacies of harems with your significant other? I'm guessing not that often, and I would bet that he/she/they would be real confused and apprehensive if you all of the sudden bring it up in all seriousness, like a lot of games tend to do.
I think your main issue is that you're viewing this as "this story only exists to enable harem" and not "these characters exist to enable the story".
This game, again, is a perfect example of us not having any idea that it would have harem potential in it without the dev note and him talking about it, because it doesn't come up in any capacity and nothing about this game points towards that being a possibility.
That also brings in the issue where what you're suggesting would completely brick internal consistency, because the game does take itself seriously and focuses on very realistic interpersonal relationships, for the game to all of the sudden throw out a harem ending without basing it on realistic feelings or even delving deeper into it would be an actual mistake. It would genuinely be antithetical to how the dev is currently portraying and building these characters and what the game focuses on, which are the interpersonal relationships.
You aren't playing a volleyball coach RTS game, the characters and how they act are the game.
Like I don't know how to tell you that needing justification to bring a pretty extreme relationship twist (given that open or polyamorous relationships are very rare even in modern society) is the bare minimum here. You can't just build an entire cast of characters, a narrative and then go "and then they all fucked, the end".