VN Ren'Py A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition [v0.8.0] [Hangover Cat]

[ItsNotUs]

not sure what you mean about the third option, if she loves him then she wouldn't cheat on him, this option exists in the original game as the family ending- where she continues to cheat with luca while harry never realizes.
again, your problem seem to be with ntr itself not the writing, the "love option" where mc allows hid women to fall is not ntr, it's called netorase, cuckolding.
there is nothing original about that, again it seems to have less complexity than ntr.
you define what original is based on how it ends but that not i think it should be defined because it narrows down many fictions and most would be identical according to this method.
the journey itself, the corruption of the heroine is what is original.
in that regard the aya version is completely different than Laura's version, and it's definitely not "magic big dick", apblu is definitely not like that unlike many works on this site.
there isn't a single scene where the heroine just sees luca naked and starts lusting over him as part of the corruption, it's mostly psychological.

What does netoras and cuckolding have to do with it? I said that MС’s choice means that the third ending is 50/50, he doesn’t know that she’s cheating on him and she loves him, but she also loves to go left! What does it have to do with likes and dislikes for NTR? I write about variability! About a new story! The variation in this story is that instead of Laura is Aya, that's it! If someone is happy about this, then the flag is in his hands!

If a cat doesn’t give a damn about 42 percent of the votes of his subscribers, he doesn’t even hesitate to talk about it on the forum and someone even welcomes it - that I don’t!

 

[ZUBiDAM]

What does netoras and cuckolding have to do with it? I said that MС’s choice means that the third ending is 50/50, he doesn’t know that she’s cheating on him and she loves him, but she also loves to go left! What does it have to do with likes and dislikes for NTR? I write about variability! About a new story! The variation in this story is that instead of Laura is Aya, that's it! If someone is happy about this, then the flag is in his hands!

If a cat doesn’t give a damn about 42 percent of the votes of his subscribers, he doesn’t even hesitate to talk about it on the forum and someone even welcomes it - that I don’t!

i still don't understand how are you not seeing that your definition of "story" is just the most simplified description of an ending.
you can do the same to many fiction works:
pretty much every super hero story- the hero defeated the bad guy.
most horror movies- main character survives
etc...
and this is a story for porn, which means it's further limited, you can expect it to involve relationships and sex.
if you look at the content itself and not just the simplified description of the ending then it's different than Laura's routes, besides simplifing it to "mc girlfriend (aya/laura) having sex with antagonist(luca) behind MC's back"- which is already a bit more complex than the usual on this site- "mc having sex"/"female mc being a slut"

 

[FoutL]

I dont even want a good end where Aya somehow ends up with Harry again but an ending where both Aya and Luca have some sort of karma would be good where Harry is also left with nothing.

 

[mizukixjoel]

Por favor, Android 7.3

 

[Chinel]

I don't really comment about the characters more because my opinions became clear last time.
If I would think about what should happen, well, basically murdering Harry because 'cuckboy' (that being the automatic reason for his murder) ensuring Luca, Laura and Aya take the fall, and putting in a way in which the state could not corrupt itself on 'saving them'.

They are all horrible.

 

[desmosome]

I don't mean the "love path"! Obviously this is not for this dev, he doesn’t know how to make "love"! Let the same have a "good ending", one of the bad ones, what's so bad about it?
I mean the variability and attitude of people towards Aya as a character - some treated or treat her much warmer than Laura!
Remembering the original story, Laura became simply unbearable after several endings, "people" stopped loving her - the hope for a more positive character fell on Aya’s shoulders, but...
The dev, as in the first game, trolled people (and among them there were his fans) with a good ending, he even did it in one of the endings, after such an attitude the desire to play his games simply disappeared! Now with his post about Aya, he’s doing exactly the same thing, and wait, maybe he’ll even do something similar in one of the endings if there are several of them!

I’m not comparing the game and reality, but even in real life, sometimes there is a way out of very difficult-hard situations, in his games there is no way out, just a small illusion! What then is the point - to look only at humiliation? 42% Voted for a good ending for Aya, will he make it at all, will he make it really good or again in his joke-troll form?

This dude looking for love in NTR games lol. A true cuck indeed.

 

[HangoverCat]

- The emotions people feel are always valid.

Nop. Most people are retards, and you cannot survive as a developer by listening to what everybody wants. I have my vision. I will write my stories in a way where I think it best elevates the kink, and if it fails, it fails. That's what we call capitalism. Lots of people here don't understand NTR and the arguments they are trying to make are laughable to anyone who understands the kink.

 

[ItsNotUs]

This dude looking for love in NTR games lol. A true cuck indeed.

This mfker A true cuck indeed - Did you look in the mirror? You don’t have to answer, and it’s clear that you’re! Sweating from the humiliation that MС is experiencing / xd
Enjoy and make sure your mom doesn’t scold you for stains on your pants!

 

[Terix3]

Sky is falling means Aya must have humiliated Harry putting nail to ntr.
And who would it be if not mr "I play ntr for good ending" leading the charge.

 

[Zasor]

Imagine growing attached to netorare characters you start demanding shit.

 

[abirvg]

Nop. Most people are retards, and you cannot survive as a developer by listening to what everybody wants. I have my vision. I will write my stories in a way where I think it best elevates the kink, and if it fails, it fails. That's what we call capitalism. Lots of people here don't understand NTR and the arguments they are trying to make are laughable to anyone who understands the kink.

You mix 'emotions' with 'arguments'.
- Emotions are valid.
- Arguments not so much.
You just use what you think is useful - but not more. Never. Obviously.

And it's not even because 'people are retards'.
If you have ever played competitive games - be it video games or IRL - there's a good lesson on how people consistently become better at something in a competitive market:

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But you saying how "people don't understand NTR" reminds me of Ridley Scott's interviews about his 'Alien' sequels.
I think we both will agree that Ridley Scott knows how to write an Alien-type movie better than millions of fans who were screaming at him from the internet. He is one of the best directors on the freaking planet.

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[Muabdi]

Watch out!!!! The 32-bit executable has viruses!!!!!!

 

[Chinel]

I think people wanna see a type C NTR case for Aya.
She has sex, is raped, but does not fall in love for Luca. There are NTRs like that, they don't end up with FMCs in love with their rapists.

That said, type C NTR doesn't also need to have MC be with FMC after villain is taken out, but MC will be seen as cruel, then again it would have a bit of "things will never be the same, 'cuck' MC that got your woman raped, weak weak. You should be the rapist instead."

I mean, at least if the spirit current present in this work carries ahead.

 

[ItsNotUs]

Imagine growing attached to netorare characters you start demanding shit.

Judging by you words, you just come into such VN projects to jerk off, plot of the game itself, the characters, their personalities do not interest you at all! Lol

Я же говорю, мозги прочисть даунито!

 

[Galentein]

He just should make two ending, NTR and not. Period.

 

[BL45T]

Anyone got the OST list of this and the previous game?

 

[BGINaN]

He just should make two ending, NTR and not. Period.

dev should just say he doesn't want to bc it takes too much time or some shit wtf is all this arguing more content is never bad esp when it's avoidable not doing so is either bc you don't have the time, resources, or don't know how to. Ppl have been losing interest on this one for months on here now it seems so listening to patreon makes sense ig don't particularly care too much for it either way would pref more but don't expect it from this my expectations have only dwindled with every update

 

[Tyyyr]

I think we're long, long past the point of no return for a "good" ending.
Other than maybe everyone dying in a big explosion.

 

[Diegoz]

thx

 

[abirvg]

He just should make two ending, NTR and not. Period.

He should do what he likes. Period.
We - on the other hand - should read what we like.

I understand that it's such a waste of rarely encountered good writing skills - but you also can't just order him to like what you like. If he doesn't like 'good endings', it's not even his choice - it's just his tastes. He didn't 'choose' these.

Voice what you feel about the game. Preferably with arguments that can be used.
But don't order. Just ordering him around won't change literally anything.