exazubi

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You're missing the step where you tell Thomas to stop blackmailing her.
Do the waitress mini-job (I don't remember if you need to fail but do it just in case) then after midnight listen in on their convo and step in and tell Thomas to stop it once and for all. You'll then make your relationship official by telling Claire and be able to continue her quest (including having her dance to you).
Someone recently reprimanded me for why I was focusing on the older content in my walkthrough ans start the new stuff after that (and not quite voluntarily working with an outdated version) instead of getting the latest game version straight away and concentrating on the latest content. And once again I see someone here who is not yet familiar with the old stuff.
I think that answers the question. :sneaky:

And as I often notice, in the new game version there seem to be bugs in the code that affect the old content. Well, in my old version the old stuff works. And I am familiar with the bugs that exist in it. :cool:

In any case, both encourage me to keep going. The day will come when I'll be done with all the old stuff and can continue with tons of new stuff. And hopefully there will be various bugs been fixed, especially the one with John's forge
 
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Ntrsugar

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the incest is still only MC half sister if i recall correctly? no biological mother of the MC introduced yet?
No , we need to return to Main Story before that "CAN" even happen.
Chances are slim , it's upto Chyos if he introduces MC's mom as alive & chances to have her as a LI is even more slim due to the bitch ass faggut dik sucking patreon rules.

But I really really hope Chyos brings MC's Real Mom in the picture with her being a LI.
I Really really hope that Chyos can make it work somehow.
Her mother can also create such an interesting character for the story too.
 
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the incest is still only MC half sister if i recall correctly? no biological mother of the MC introduced yet?
Well... Mira is not MC half sister. Marcus was not MC father. I believe the Incest Tag is for Julia/Yasmine, Kate/Claire and Frisha/Emily.

Possible future content (if ever voted on) may include Mira/Emily, Mira/Frisha, Mira/Frisha/Emily, Tia/Katherine, Gavina/Bianca, Julia/Dave/Giron, Melissa/John, Dave/Yasmine, Arianna/Roderic, Rick/Arianna, Verena/Rick, Verena/Arianna, Dasan/Nyra, Helena/Sophie, Umah/Bolgan, Liandra/Aidalin (not so sure on last one, pretty sure Liandra complained that she became heir to Kirlic after her brother Aidalin took religious vows), and any new options from new content in new areas (Ophilia and her father maybe?).
 

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No , we need to return to Main Story before that "CAN" even happen.
Chances are slim , it's upto Chyos if he introduces MC's mom as alive & chances to have her as a LI is even more slim due to the bitch ass faggut dik sucking patreon rules.

But I really really hope Chyos brings MC's Real Mom in the picture with her being a LI.
I Really really hope that Chyos can make it work somehow.
Her mother can also create such an interesting character for the story too.
a patch can easily solve the patreon issue, im sure everyone think will be awesome if that happens
 

johnyakuza1

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On a separate note, what exactly do people like about this game? The CG isn't attractive, the women look all weird, the body proportions are all over the place, the art is DAZ I presume but the quality of the renders looks outdated by 10 years—it's no wonder the game has over 41K images because the dev can pump out 720p renders frequently without much effort.

Is it the roleplaying aspect of it? Freedom of choices? There's 1800+ pages of discussion so it must be doing something right after all.
 
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XSelLint

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the incest is still only MC half sister if i recall correctly? no biological mother of the MC introduced yet?
Not sure if you consider Mira and Frisha to be MC's Half-Sister when they aren't even blood related. MC has his own dad and mom, not Marcus. I heard that the Original Script of Mira is MC's sister, and Marcus is MC's Dad was scrapped due to Patreon or something rules so the Story was changed, but players can still change it back by reading Marcus's letter twice for some Alabama action.
 

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a patch can easily solve the patreon issue, im sure everyone think will be awesome if that happens
Rumor has it the paywalled Discord server contains a definitely unofficial patch, posted by someone who is definitely not a Chyos sockpuppet, that unofficially restores a lot of the Patreon no-nos like
the incest is still only MC half sister if i recall correctly? no biological mother of the MC introduced yet?
I think the "incest" tag is only present because Kate (the waitress) is ambiguously Thomas's (innkeeper) stepdaughter. Other than that, it's a precaution, because there are a lot of scenes where the MC and a girl are observed by the girl's sister or mother, and a few "harem" scenes where the women are sisters or mother/daughter but don't do anything with each other.
 

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On a separate note, what exactly do people like about this game? The CG isn't attractive, the women look all weird, the body proportions are all over the place, the art is DAZ I presume but the quality of the renders looks outdated by 10 years—it's no wonder the game has over 41K images because the dev can pump out 720p renders frequently without much effort.

Is it the roleplaying aspect of it? Freedom of choices? There's 1800+ pages of discussion so it must be doing something right after all.
You have explained it in the last line. The game has a great immersion, and the choices actually matter. It is also frequently updated with new content (both with and without ntr).
 

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On a separate note, what exactly do people like about this game? The CG isn't attractive, the women look all weird, the body proportions are all over the place, the art is DAZ I presume but the quality of the renders looks outdated by 10 years—it's no wonder the game has over 41K images because the dev can pump out 720p renders frequently without much effort.

Is it the roleplaying aspect of it? Freedom of choices? There's 1800+ pages of discussion so it must be doing something right after all.
Models could be better but I've seen worse and there are plenty of actual good ones like Verana. Most of the storylines are also really well written and the game lends itself to the rpg format better than most games on this site so it actually comes off like an actual game.
 
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storm1051787

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Rumor has it the paywalled Discord server contains a definitely unofficial patch, posted by someone who is definitely not a Chyos sockpuppet, that unofficially restores a lot of the Patreon no-nos like

I think the "incest" tag is only present because Kate (the waitress) is ambiguously Thomas's (innkeeper) stepdaughter. Other than that, it's a precaution, because there are a lot of scenes where the MC and a girl are observed by the girl's sister or mother, and a few "harem" scenes where the women are sisters or mother/daughter but don't do anything with each other.
This is not correct. The incest tag is there because Mira is the mc's half sister. Incest has to be manually turned on by changing the relationship in Marcus letter. If you do that then Mira becomes the mc's half sister and the dialogue changes to reflect this. In addition the it also changes it so that Frisha is Garon's illegitimate daughter so her scenes with Garon and Dave also become incest. Thomas is also not Kate's stepfather at all. He has no interest at all in Claire and both Clarie and Kate are only living at the inn because they work there.


There is no step father like relationship between Kate and Thomas. It's just an employer taking advantage of his employee.


Not sure if you consider Mira and Frisha to be MC's Half-Sister when they aren't even blood related. MC has his own dad and mom, not Marcus. I heard that the Original Script of Mira is MC's sister, and Marcus is MC's Dad was scrapped due to Patreon or something rules so the Story was changed, but players can still change it back by reading Marcus's letter twice for some Alabama action.

If you change the letter they are blood related. Mira being Mc's sister is just as canon to the story as if she wasn't. The letter is the incest patch basically but the game still makes sense storywise with or without incest
 
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znnrqp

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This is not correct. The incest tag is there because Mira is the mc's half sister. Incest has to be manually turned on by changing the relationship in Marcus letter. If you do that then Mira becomes the mc's half sister and the dialogue changes to reflect this. In addition the it also changes it so that Frisha is Garon's illegitimate daughter so her scenes with Garon and Dave also become incest. Thomas is also not Kate's stepfather at all. He has no interest at all in Claire and both Clarie and Kate are only living at the inn because they work there.


There is no step father like relationship between Kate and Thomas. It's just an employer taking advantage of his employee.
I had no idea about the Frisha-Giron connection but I took certain dialogues with [Kate's mom] to mean she was or had previously been involved with Thomas.
 

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After all we should embrace our respective kinks View attachment 3378354
what do you mean? bro I prefer playing as orcs and nonhuman races if possible you know why in most lores orcs are strong elfs got magic and bow but not smart as humans (cunning) and guess what I'm a human + I find playing as elf halfling and other roles boring so what is left you can't use orcs as ntr lovers I'm fine with you doing your thing but no I simply refuse! Please take your comment back
 

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Well... Mira is not MC half sister. Marcus was not MC father. I believe the Incest Tag is for Julia/Yasmine, Kate/Claire and Frisha/Emily.


Mira is the mc's half sister and Marcus is the Mc's father. The letter was always there since Mira got her update to enable or disable incest and the ccharacter was originally planned to be mc's half sister
 

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Mira is Marcus daughter with Emily.Im not sure what happen but Marcus have a relationship with MC mom before he & his son flee.MC mom probably dead tho.
 
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