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Don't know where to report this but

BUG : so I somehow had the 'Go to Kirlic' option when the barn hasn't yet been renovated, no horse nor carriage. and this the repeat version as well 5.9.7 test

welp just with the flow the Old Boar prompts interactions are buggered as well

does anyone have a link to their discord if its available to non-subs?

Letter can be changed to make her your half sister if you so want and the story will accommodate for it (changing not only Marcus background story but other elements as well) as mentioned above and among other discussions here on the same topic.
Patreon itself doesn't allow incest content so you won't see it otherwise.

Kinda worrying seeing the dev working into late hours during the weekend, especially after the delays in release the past 2 weeks.
wasn't there an option in the early versions of the game years ago? I vaguely remember this.
 
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When that is done I'll directly begin with working on Imawyn's bonusscene. It is fitting that this is now about her, since I will make use of that to also add Bianca to the feast scene at the camp. I don't know how long this scene will take me, probably depends on how much I add on top... for example I really really wanted to update Imawyn's armor.... all her older dialog images (which I just saw again during the tests) need an update. But that would then also mean that I have to update her images at prison, during emily's kidnapping... just so you get an idea. But I think it would be worth it and is a good preparation for her future update.
Looks like we'll be waiting quite a while for the cult update.
That said, Chyos seems to be in better spirits and enjoying the work on these in betweens and happy with the results so I guess we can expect some nice results.
I was a little sad I had advanced my main save with Ugotha's route when I saw he added Snikka's in but it looks like we have quite a bit to explore in the goblins village.
 
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Chii

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BUG : so I somehow had the 'Go to Kirlic' option when the barn hasn't yet been renovated, no horse nor carriage. and this the repeat version as well 5.9.7 test
Give it another go in the latest 6.0 version.
Chyos will come from time to time in here and act on bugs reported, and it's also possible it was reported already to him already.
 

exazubi

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Are we still doing this? Relationship changer is the real incest and the story is irrelevant to whether the Marcus is the mc's father or not. There's no change in the story one way or the other and no indication that it's going to change. And there i no indication that the mom's husband is going to be anything more than a passing reference acknowledging they exist. Incest being off by default is kind of irrelevant since that's the case with every game on this site where the dev uses patreon. Even on games where it's batantly obvious what the true relationships are.



He's acknowledging that, but basically saying it's not canon since you have to edit the letter. And that the non incest version is the "true version" just because it's the default.
If it doesn't matter in the end, why are you all so upset?

The topic has been talked to death in this thread for years. Any further discussion should be held with forums admins. But I doubt that they will change the forum definition because of something like that. What there is to say about this has been said here, more than once.

In any case, I don't really care about the relationships. This is the same pointless discussion in other threats, "is it real cuckold or not? or "is it real NTR or not?" There are only extreme opinions left, real discussions and exchanges of knowledge no longer take place. And the people who shout the loudest, usually certain haters, are usually the people who have the least idea what they're talking about. It's unbearable to have to see again and again that some people just can't stand not getting their way. Things are sometimes worse here than in many schoolyards. I actually thought this was an adult forum?

I like this game exactly as it is. I don't care which tags are there and which aren't. If I like a game, I follow it for a long time, sometimes permanently, and make up my own mind. I only read the tags superficially. I have had the experience more than once that they are only partially true. And so the topic is now settled for me.
 

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Honestly I don't remember the letter function or just didn't realize the letter part, all I remeber is Emily telling the MC that Frisha is most likely Giron's at one point, think it's during one of the bed talks. I might be wrong here but at least for me it always seems to happen but maybe thats cause I always somehow activate incest mode?
I remember that Dialogue too... it was like v0.4.9.0 something? Emily tells you that Frisha was probably Giron Daughter while they both were cuddling her bed, but a lot has changed since then.
 
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storm1051787

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If it doesn't matter in the end, why are you all so upset?


Because you blatantly insisted without any proof that one version is canon over the other and one player's choice is wrong.


That's why I actually care about. I don't care at all whether you like incest or not or play the game with incest or not. It's the insistance you have that the other option isn't a valid option, and again you seemly did that for no other reason than it's not the default, when it literally can't be the default legally. If Chyos ever continues the mom's storyline I'm pretty obvious that her husband is only going to be mentioned in passing regardless of whether you have incest turned or not, and that the mom is the one that's actually important in any sort of way.


This is the same pointless discussion in other threats, "is it real cuckold or not? or "is it real NTR or not?" There are only extreme opinions left, real discussions and exchanges of knowledge no longer take place. And the people who shout the loudest, usually certain haters, are usually the people who have the least idea what they're talking about. It's unbearable to have to see again and again that some people just can't stand not getting their way. Things are sometimes worse here than in many schoolyards. I actually thought this was an adult forum?

It's not at all similar to that, there is pretty blatantly incest content in the game, just like there is blantanly anal content in the game and blantant cheating content. The "is it real cuckhold" debate has always been more about the fact that different people have different definitions of what is and isn't ntr. Here it's pretty blatantly says that Mira is the mc's half sister with incest turned on, so there is no real debate on whether or not there is incest content unless we get into a "canon" debate like you are doing now. The rest of your comment is really irrelevant and doesn't really have anything to do with what's been disucssed
 
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You're all wrong.
Marcus was MC's gaurdian & MC's real mom is still alive and we'll meet her in future as a possible LI.
That's the canon plotline.
Everything else is just for people to enjoy as they like.
 
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Because you blatantly insisted without any proof that one version is canon over the other and one player's choice is wrong.


That's why I actually care about. I don't care at all whether you like incest or not or play the game with incest or not. It's the insistance you have that the other option isn't a valid option, and again you seemly did that for no other reason than it's not the default, when it literally can't be the default legally. If Chyos ever continues the mom's storyline I'm pretty obvious that her husband is only going to be mentioned in passing regardless of whether you have incest turned or not, and that the mom is the one that's actually important in any sort of way.
What I think Chyos can do, to avoid risks with patreon is only one thing. If the player has the switch deactivated, the mother will not be the mother, but the classic mother's friend. Or a normal woman. With whom at the end to start something in a different way (Or it's simply dead and whoever has the switch deactivated therefore loses a possible additional relationship in the game. But I don't think so, because in that case some people would then complain about it). For those who have the switch active, instead the mother will still be the mother and therefore there will be an incestuous relationship.

I think the best choice for Chyos is to create two versions. A patreon and a Subscribestar. Where one has very specific content and the other enables content that patreon does not want. It shouldn't be that difficult for him or cause him any more commitments. Because in one he will not insert that particular context. While in the other he will have to insert it. For me this is the only real alternative. Because by doing so, he will bring new users to Subscribestar and will understand that that fetish brings a lot of extra earnings. Since in that way he can add more relatives in the game, without bothering anyone.
 

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You're all wrong.
Marcus was MC's gaurdian & MC's real mom is still alive and we'll meet her in future as a possible LI.
That's the canon plotline.
Everything else is just for people to enjoy as they like.
How do you figure that MCs mom is still alive? Marcus talks about her like she's dead and who would know better than him.
 
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storm1051787

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You're all wrong.
Marcus was MC's gaurdian & MC's real mom is still alive and we'll meet her in future as a possible LI.
That's the canon plotline.
Everything else is just for people to enjoy as they like.
There is no canon plotline. Both Marcus being mc's father and not being his father are valid.
What I think Chyos can do, to avoid risks with patreon is only one thing. If the player has the switch deactivated, the mother will not be the mother, but the classic mother's friend. Or a normal woman. With whom at the end to start something in a different way (Or it's simply dead and whoever has the switch deactivated therefore loses a possible additional relationship in the game. But I don't think so, because in that case some people would then complain about it). For those who have the switch active, instead the mother will still be the mother and therefore there will be an incestuous relationship.

I think the best choice for Chyos is to create two versions. A patreon and a Subscribestar. Where one has very specific content and the other enables content that patreon does not want. It shouldn't be that difficult for him or cause him any more commitments. Because in one he will not insert that particular context. While in the other he will have to insert it. For me this is the only real alternative. Because by doing so, he will bring new users to Subscribestar and will understand that that fetish brings a lot of extra earnings. Since in that way he can add more relatives in the game, without bothering anyone.


You can't have a subscribestar version and a patreon version. The devs on this site that have done that have only managed to do so because they haven't gotten caught
 

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You're all wrong.
Marcus was MC's gaurdian & MC's real mom is still alive and we'll meet her in future as a possible LI.
That's the canon plotline.
Everything else is just for people to enjoy as they like.
There is no one wrong here. The game is a role-playing game. You have choices and tastes. It is up to the player to choose what he wants from what he doesn't want. Chyos, is doing exactly that. The problem is that the game is active on patreon and patreon does not want certain things on its site. Continuing to deny the thing, just because some people don't like it is just spreading misinformation. I take you as an example, if you don't like it, read the letter just one thing and live happily in your ideal game. I take myself as an example. I like it and I activated the switch. Because I find that in that context it is the canonical thing. I would like to remind you that in the Medieval Ages many families had the use and custom of starting incestuous relationships. So as to bring forward pure blood lines. I would like to mention a very important family that existed, the "Borgia" So honestly being shocked by this thing, I just don't understand it. There are tastes and tastes, there are those who like it and those who don't. You can then continue to believe that it is not so. The choice is only yours.
 

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You can't have a subscribestar version and a patreon version. The devs on this site that have done that have only managed to do so because they haven't gotten caught
What I mean is that on subscrivestar you have one version and on patreon another. You separate the two links and sell two active versions. On patreon you only bring the patreon version. On subscribestar the subscrivestar version. Legally so no one can say anything to him. Of course it would be clear that the most active earnings would come from patreon, since Subscribestar is not as famous as the other.
 
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What I mean is that on subscrivestar you have one version and on patreon another. You separate the two links and sell two active versions. On patreon you only bring the patreon version. On subscribestar the subscrivestar version. Legally so no one can say anything to him. Of course it would be clear that the most active earnings would come from patreon, since Subscribestar is not as famous as the other.
I know what you meant and you're not allowed to do that. The kinks that are banned from patreon are banned from all versions. If Patreon finds out you have an incest version on another site they can still claim it's a violation and take down your patreon page. Like I said devs get away with it only because Patreon hasn't discovered the subscribestar version. There is a lot of stuff on stuff on this ite that are against patreon's policies, but those dev's patreons are alright only because they managed to fly under the radar and avoid getting reviewed. In this game the incest content is hidden so to speak
 
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Frisha isn't Giron's daughter with incest turned off. With incest turns on Emily outright confirms that Giron is the father and that she made up the thing about a traveling merchant to save face when Giron left her for Yasmine.
Well again I didn't know about the new incest function, in a previous version I played which was around v.0.5.0.0 I don't remember the incest function and instead Emily would always allude to Giron being the father of Frisha. Saying something along the line that at the time she had to sleep with Giron as a means to survive. So back then it was pretty much "confirmed" that Frisha was Giron's daughter, since at least if we are going by genetics, brown or black hair are a dominant hair color while blonde isn't (which makes sense with Mira having brown hair) so normally both parents should be blonde for it to get inherited which in turn is why the amount of natural blondes in our world is actually decreasing year by year. It also sort of shows in the village with it having almost no blondes, at least in theory in some thousands years if humans are still around unless something changes like genesplicing or something then things like natural blue eyes and blonde hair will be a thing of the past.

Then again this is a world were the gods created the Demons and Elves at first and then the Orcs, with humans being Orcs transformed to look more appealing while also increasing their intelligence and then became known as humans though in fact I would say their still Orcs. So not sure if our human genetics would play a part here.

But anyway my point is that in an earlier version Emily would always hint at Frisha being Giron daughter and thus Dave's half-sister. But it has seemingly been changed by now to the full incest toggle.
 
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