VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.5.1] [digi.B]

[Onibaku]

Oh come on now. You aren't exactly new around F95. With just about every high quality game around here, if a release date estimate does not include an explicit release date, take it with a huge grain silo of salt.

There was an explicit date 24 Dec Christmas. I expected a delay but not a 1/4 of a year delay. Maybe i just had to much faith in digi.b of actually fulfilling what he said himself. If i was just pirated the game i probably would not give to much of fuck. I did cancel my pledge and will wait here for the update

 

[Cabin Fever]

There was an explicit date 24 Dec Christmas. I expected a delay but not a 1/4 of a year delay. Maybe i just had to much faith in digi.b of actually fulfilling what he said himself.

Fair enough. I must have missed that post. Ignore me then. Move along. Nothing to see here...

 

[xapican]

Inpatience, exitation apart, I fail to see why the Update frecuency, is so important? more so if it was handled openly from the Developer, and his most closest comunity.
We're are bashing the cycles now for almost a few months, did it change anything ? improve the render quality ? the script ?
and I'm not talking about those members who voice their opinion once, to be clear here.

 

[katabasi]

soon tm?

 

[Rehwyn]

Fair enough. I must have missed that post. Ignore me then. Move along. Nothing to see here...

To be clear, digi.B never promised a Christmas release or said they "will" release for Christmas, just that they were estimating a Christmas release and were trying their very best to hit that target. I've commented on this before a previous time it came up.

Obviously delays are no fun and this one has been pretty long, but at no point did I get the impression digi.B has broken their word or not delivered on something they promised. And as it started to become apparent in November that it would likely take longer, they were transparent that they probably weren't going to hit that estimate rather than waiting until the last minute.

 

[Cabin Fever]

To be clear, digi.B never promised a Christmas release or said they "will" release for Christmas, just that they were estimating a Christmas release and were trying their very best to hit that target. I've commented on this before a previous time it came up.

Obviously delays are no fun and this one has been pretty long, but at no point did I get the impression digi.B has broken their word or not delivered on something they promised. And as it started to become apparent in November that it would likely take longer, they were transparent that they probably weren't going to hit that estimate rather than waiting until the last minute.

Ok thx that's closer to what my remaining 2 brain cells could remember.

 

[slick97]

Inpatience, exitation apart, I fail to see why the Update frecuency, is so important? more so if it was handled openly from the Developer, and his most closest comunity.
We're are bashing the cycles now for almost a few months, did it change anything ? improve the render quality ? the script ?
and I'm not talking about those members who voice their opinion once, to be clear here.

Update frequency is a good metric for gauging whether it's worth it to support a developer on their project. If you release an update with 2k+ renders every year it's harder to interpolate if someone still enjoys the content enough to continue support; whereas splitting that same update into 1k+ renders every 6 months gives supporters a better idea.

As for the quality of the renders and story... It's definitely one of the better projects out there. Digi.B has maintained consistency in character personalities, subplots, and quality of renders. I personally feel he's a bit too ambitious given the flashy animations and allowing player's to shape Artemis' personality, but those are entirely subjective opinions.

 

[Onibaku]

To be clear, digi.B never promised a Christmas release or said they "will" release for Christmas, just that they were estimating a Christmas release and were trying their very best to hit that target. I've commented on this before a previous time it came up.

Obviously delays are no fun and this one has been pretty long, but at no point did I get the impression digi.B has broken their word or not delivered on something they promised. And as it started to become apparent in November that it would likely take longer, they were transparent that they probably weren't going to hit that estimate rather than waiting until the last minute.

But what you forget in the same post you mention he also said

So I try not to mention unless I'm sure of the date and I'll be doing my very best to try and make this a Christmas release.

He did mention a date Chrismas so he must have been sure of it. He did say in later post that he probably wont be able to make it but a 3 month delay is just bullshit. I expected a delay but not a 3 month delay

 

[drifter139]

But what you forget in the same post you mention he also said He did mention a date Chrismas so he must have been sure of it. He did say in later post that he probably wont be able to make it but a 3 month delay is just bullshit. I expected a delay but not a 3 month delay

his mother died. he's dealing with things

 

[Rehwyn]

But what you forget in the same post you mention he also said He did mention a date Chrismas so he must have been sure of it. He did say in later post that he probably wont be able to make it but a 3 month delay is just bullshit. I expected a delay but not a 3 month delay

Regardless of how sure he stated he felt about it, the post still explicitly called it an estimate of Christmas and that they were trying to hit it. That's very different then saying Christmas is the release date and they are confident they will hit it. I always assume an estimate is going to change until it's no longer called an estimate, particularly if that estimate is months away.

Agreed that 3 months is a longer delay than I expected (I mentioned a few weeks delay in my older post). But again, never did I think it was a promise of Christmas.

 

[xapican]

Update frequency is a good metric for gauging whether it's worth it to support a developer on their project. If you release an update with 2k+ renders every year it's harder to interpolate if someone still enjoys the content enough to continue support; whereas splitting that same update into 1k+ renders every 6 months gives supporters a better idea.

You got a point, there, agreed, although, my post was written out of the sight of someone who is on/off patreon, and unconditional fan, I know that this might be a flaw in my personality, but If I enjoy something I don¡t care the frequency, and tend to feel, some critics as unfair and feel atacked.
As for forging the personality of Artemis I feel that he got the right path more so since in recent times voices, of players have been louder wanting to have more control over the personality of their Heros.

 

[Igetby]

I personally feel he's a bit too ambitious given the flashy animations and allowing player's to shape Artemis' personality, but those are entirely subjective opinions.

Could not have put it better myself. With the render quality warning in chapter 1 aside.

 

[Maccabbee]

Could not have put it better myself. With the render quality warning in chapter 1 aside.

Since when do you get to tell an artist how to create their art. Either enjoy it or do something else. There's no shortage of AVNs available.

 

[slick97]

You got a point, there, agreed, although, my post was written out of the sight of someone who is on/off patreon, and unconditional fan, I know that this might be a flaw in my personality, but If I enjoy something I don¡t care the frequency, and tend to feel, some critics as unfair and feel atacked.

I don't think it's a flaw if you're able to enjoy a project regardless of how long a development cycle takes. It's a rather nice trait to have as it doesn't unintentionally spoil your enjoyment of a new update

As for forging the personality of Artemis I feel that he got the right path more so since in recent times voices, of players have been louder wanting to have more control over the personality of their Heros.

It's a tough balancing act developers face with their projects in terms of player agency. My philosophy has always been that devs should make games they would want to play as that's when you get to experience some truly memorable moments.

I personally enjoy having the ability to shape Artemis' personality. If Digi is able to pull it off then it'd be the first example I've seen of a truly dynamic character.