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yes, but that's only because of the patreon rules...and I mean it's a big brother game... of course you expect an incest patch.
I don't know that the dev would have made it that way even without Patreon's rules, and Patreon has already hassled him over the patch that was on this site before thanks to some vindictive asshole that reported his page for no reason.

The game is being written as if they're not related anyway so better to just not worry about it.
 
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Full disclosure regarding any patches - as I tried to explain to Patreon staff it's a RenPy game, which is basically open source, so everyone with any minimal knowledge on how it works can modify it and create patches. The main issue for them was that there is a patch that didn't comply with their rules in the first post and my Patreon page was also liked in the same post. I had to chose if I ask the staff of F95 to remove the patch or I would be forced to change my Patreon alias so it was no longer whatever was linked here which would basically cut off any support for the game. The nice people at F95 agreed to remove the patch from the first post together with any "incest" tags from the game page, so it doesn't violate their rule of not having an incest patch in the same post as the link to my Patreon page. Anything else below that is out of my control.

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If this is how they run their business, I guess I'm better off dealing with Patreon.
 

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a patch would make it look more natural. so it would be nice if someone could do something like that
The only change would be MC refering to Ann as mom. There would be nothing natural, if original game replaces mom with more neutral noun to please censors. Ann would continue to refer to MC by his real name. In my world only mother, father and grand parents deserve to be called not by name. Brothers, sisters or children are called by their names and almost never given their relative status in talks.

Patch won't be inventing extra dialogs where MC tells to his sisters, aunt or mom that there is nothing wrong with what they are doing. Such dialogs would be out of place in non-incest game.

It is big brother game. Five adults live in same location. Two are older than other three (not old enough to make some Colorado residents proud). Some still go to school, but they all are older than 18 (don't fact check me on that). The only things that would make them more related is for them to start referring to themselves as brother/sister/mom/aunt and MC move to live in basement. Your head can assume that they are related and dev can have plausible deniability by not referring to them in that way in any place in game.

Or you want to be like those other Twichies that keep asking for Android.
 
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is there damn NTR or not?? it's unclear cuz in 1 line there is and under genre there isn't
it all depends if Ann is your GF/Wife when Eric is boning her? And by what definition you want to use for NTR, I mean in this this version she is just the ship captain I think and not related but you do not start the game in a relationship with her.
 
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yes, but that's only because of the patreon rules...and I mean it's a big brother game... of course you expect an incest patch.
I believe you (and others) are misinterpreting "Big Brother" by taking it too literally.

That phrase in the title (as well as the name of the shadow organization by that name in the game) is a reference to an IRL "reality" TV show by that name, which in turn is a reference to the authoritarian leader in the dystopian novel 1984 by George Orwell. Big Brother in 1984 is a self-proclaimed benevolent dictator (technically a dictatorial ruling class) who watches over everyone and is aware of pretty much everything everyone does, and more or less provides for everyone, but is also a strict disciplinarian... sort of like a literal "big brother" who is protective and also a bully. Another example of the "Big Brother" concept is the movie The Truman Show, where the billionaire show creator/producer Christof, and the show's control room staff who work for him, are collectively "Big Brother".

The reference really has nothing to do with incest in the literary sense that is the intended meaning.
 
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it all depends if Ann is your GF/Wife when Eric is boning her? And by what definition you want to use for NTR, I mean in this this version she is just the ship captain I think and not related but you do not start the game in a relationship with her.
Yep, Max is not in a relationship with anyone and doesn't even want to share a room with Lisa at the start.
Ann was the wife of the ship's captain, so she was definitely not single before the game starts.

I believe you (and others) are misinterpreting "Big Brother" by taking it too literally.

That phrase in the title (as well as the name of the shadow organization by that name in the game) is a reference to an IRL "reality" TV show by that name, which in turn is a reference to the authoritarian leader in the dystopian novel 1984 by George Orwell. Big Brother in 1984 is a self-proclaimed benevolent dictator (technically a dictatorial ruling class) who watches over everyone and is aware of pretty much everything everyone does, and more or less provides for everyone, but is also a strict disciplinarian... sort of like a literal "big brother" who is protective and also a bully. Another example of the "Big Brother" concept is the movie The Truman Show, where the billionaire show creator/producer Christof, and the show's control room staff who work for him, are collectively "Big Brother".

The reference really has nothing to do with incest in the literary sense that is the intended meaning.
Yeah, that's definitely what the dev is going for in this game.

I guess adding some extra backstory to each of the characters would put this to rest for good, like saying they all have different families etc. Obviously don't need to go any further than that (unless it's a flashback or something) since they're the only humans in the game.

Then again we get people asking questions that were asked and answered like ten posts up so probably not lol.
 

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Passed version 0.6.2 along path "Alpha" and I'm too lazy to re-pass choice "Omega". How many original quests does "Omega" have, which are not in "Alpha"?
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Yep, Max is not in a relationship with anyone and doesn't even want to share a room with Lisa at the start.
Ann was the wife of the ship's captain, so she was definitely not single before the game starts.


Yeah, that's definitely what the dev is going for in this game.

I guess adding some extra backstory to each of the characters would put this to rest for good, like saying they all have different families etc. Obviously don't need to go any further than that (unless it's a flashback or something) since they're the only humans in the game.

Then again we get people asking questions that were asked and answered like ten posts up so probably not lol.
I one of the other remakes (or a fan art thread - I honestly don't remember) I've seen a comment that it is in fact Eric that's being NTRed by Max and it makes sense - he's the one in a relationship with Ann :ROFLMAO:.

As for the backstory - everything I wanted to give is already in the prologue, make of that what you will. I mean Ann is even still wearing her wedding ring ffs! RenPy games are fairly easy to modify, so if anyone wants they can add "backstory", make her Max's "landlady" or whatever. The only thing it will miss are consistent renders since those depend on my Daz library, but hey - it's backstory, so characters will be younger and it's expected for them to look at least a little bit different. If you can draw 2d stuff, it's even possible to add different style for the images - after all it will be some kind of "flashback" so anything goes there sylewise.
 
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I one of the other remakes (or a fan art thread - I honestly don't remember) I've seen a comment that it is in fact Eric that's being NTRed by Max and it makes sense - he's the one in a relationship with Ann :ROFLMAO:.
I'll definitely support a character being NTR'd in this case :ROFLMAO:
I know Eric is willing to share but uh, I'd much rather share Ann with Kira or anyone else other than him lol.

But I'm sure that will happen after he's gone so I'll be waiting patiently for that.

I'm glad there are more allies against him in this game, I'm sure "Big Brother" (or Karen heh) will be a big help if he does something stupid lol. Though just with what he's let Max do so far Ann would probably flip out.

I really do wonder if he's been getting all his info on "human behavior" from the original Big Brother game, would be hilarious.
As for the backstory - everything I wanted to give is already in the prologue, make of that what you will. I mean Ann is even still wearing her wedding ring ffs! RenPy games are fairly easy to modify, so if anyone wants they can add "backstory", make her Max's "landlady" or whatever. The only thing it will miss are consistent renders since those depend on my Daz library, but hey - it's backstory, so characters will be younger and it's expected for them to look at least a little bit different. If you can draw 2d stuff, it's even possible to add different style for the images - after all it will be some kind of "flashback" so anything goes there sylewise.
Yeah that's fine.
People would just twist it all in knots trying to fit their need for "that" into it anyway.

Saw what you said about Patreon, completely absurd but nothing can be done so yeah better to just go with it.
 

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Alright, here it is - the renders for the new Kira's event are done and... I'm starting to fix those that need to be fixed. Like the image above which has a clipping issue between your feet and the floor :(. Even though I should be used by now, I still feel stupid that I didn't notice it before rendering.

Also the fact that these are actually two images that need to be re-rendered (one with Kira's wet skin and one with dry skin) that are combined to result in Kira being covered in drops only from the shoulders down, does actually make it even worse...
 

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I've always found it strange how late in the game the yoga event with Ann came into play in the original BB. Whatever the reasons for this, in BBIS things will be done differently. It's absolutely possible to have some event with Ann doing yoga (plus some additional stuff if she's under the influence of the drug), so I've decided to do it. Of course you shouldn't expect much since your relationship with her is not there yet, but it's a start.

As for the change of plans - I think you'll like it. I've decided to split the release of 0.7 in two. Since it will contain mostly that one big Halloween event and a few new events and extensions of existing events, it makes no sense to make you wait for the end of October to play though those. So I'm going to release a new not-so-minor (7 events with over 130 new images and animations) update at the end of August with all the smaller events and then I'll start working exclusively on the big Halloween event.
 

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if an IC patch is an issue .. then why not make an option to rename roles in start of game .. so we can fill in their roles ourselfs .. i see that a lot in games and there would not be an issue on patreon either ?
 

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if an IC patch is an issue .. then why not make an option to rename roles in start of game .. so we can fill in their roles ourselfs .. i see that a lot in games and there would not be an issue on patreon either ?
I see that a lot of games here that have the 'incest' tag as well, so it's not about what is in the game or not, it's about what someone decides to report. I am not going to overcomplicate my code, just to make it somehow work for all the different "relationships" anyone can think of.
 
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I've always found it strange how late in the game the yoga event with Ann came into play in the original BB. Whatever the reasons for this, in BBIS things will be done differently. It's absolutely possible to have some event with Ann doing yoga (plus some additional stuff if she's under the influence of the drug), so I've decided to do it. Of course you shouldn't expect much since your relationship with her is not there yet, but it's a start.

As for the change of plans - I think you'll like it. I've decided to split the release of 0.7 in two. Since it will contain mostly that one big Halloween event and a few new events and extensions of existing events, it makes no sense to make you wait for the end of October to play though those. So I'm going to release a new not-so-minor (7 events with over 130 new images and animations) update at the end of August with all the smaller events and then I'll start working exclusively on the big Halloween event.
Oh, nice!
A smaller update is definitely better than having to wait, and from the sound of it that Halloween event is gonna be a lot of fun.

The yoga scenes have a lot of potential for fun as Ann gets closer to Max (and especially once Eric is gone, which I'm sure no one will ask about when that update releases /s).
It's always fun to see how the characters act differently while on the drug (especially Alice lol), so even if it's not much I'm still looking forward to it.

I hope at some point (maybe while on the drug or at least once she's open to the idea of fucking) Ann starts talking to Max like she talked to herself during that voyeur scene, like telling him if she was him she'd want to fuck her too.

I see that a lot of games here that have the 'incest' tag as well, so it's not about what is in the game or not, it's about what someone decides to report. I am not going to overcomplicate my code, just to make it somehow work for all the different "relationships" anyone can think of.
Yeah, it's more work, AND if someone is vindictive enough to report you over a patch you didn't make and had nothing to do with being in the OP of a forum thread they'd definitely do it for that too.

Which is ridiculous, but what can you do?
 
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