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Amen. This can be summarized to one thing... don't presume to know what you don't know. Cause, in the end, it is just that. Your presumptions.

Apparently, I have a clone running around, as I don't recall where, when, how, and why I confirmed anything about anything. I saw someone said "Main LI is gone!" Who said this? Where they said it? When they said it? Cause it sure as fuck wasn't me.

Who said Lyria is main LI? If it isn't from me, then it is false and misinformation. As I told in conversation with people, who are actually civilized enough to ask me like a normal human being. Yes, she gets back in Elleria 3.


2nd topic of this fucked up thread. Silas.

I remember in the start, when people complained about black screens... and how they're unaware of half the things that go in the background, not giving them enough info on story itself. Hence, Silas was made. As a spyglass, that allows the player to see how main character knows things A, B, C and why he would perhaps do D, E, F afterwards.

Then I expanded on his role and gave him a different purpose, cause, I said, why the hell not. It could be fun. But... here's the thing... when, where and who said this won't be skippable starting Book 2? When did I ever claim or confirm that you can't skip his part ( but then you won't know half the shit ) ? Never. Ever.


3. "If the answer is to sit +3 years of development for character to come back." Right, this is one of the reasons I rarely visit this place anymore, yeah, talking to you, you entitled little fuck. Are you paying for this? Am I taking money off of anyone here on monthly basis from patreon, subscribestart, etcetera? No.

I'm not. I have no support platforms. You know why? Precisely because of this. My money, my rules. Don't like it? Take a fucking hike. Think you can do better? Go ahead, render and write 12 hours a day every day for a full fucking year to finish something. Be my guest. And then see how it feels when someone shits on you for something that they didn't even pay for, but you printed out almost 12 hours of content in a single year.

Fucking ridiculous behavior.


I can understand a lot of shit, and I try to be as reasonable as I can. I don't recall ever turning down anyone who came to my discord, and told me they can't afford the game... I give em access for it for nothing. Cause... why wouldn't I help out if they're in some pesky financial situation?

And then... there's people like you. Encouraging me to be an absolute fucking asshole, cause if I give a hand you want an arm.




No. I just geared down on writing speeds, and I dedicate more time into it. Which... comes at a different price but yeah. I also got an Editor in case of emergency fires, so stuff doesn't end up butchered like CH1 and 2 were.


That's about that. Rest of shit isn't even worth answering and I won't. As for everyone else... if you don't know something, then ask me. But ask me in a normal way, like a normal fucking person. And I'll give you a normal fucking answer.

P.S: Some of you say Eliot is an asshole.. yeah, yeah he is in scenes where he has to be. But even Eliot can't compete with some assholes in this thread, you top him up.
will we have Lyria back quite soon?? and sry to say this, but a character that says to MC that she will be his soulmate for life and is part of a big part of chapter 1, well i consider her a main LI for sure.
 

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will we have Lyria back quite soon?? and sry to say this, but a character that says to MC that she will be his soulmate for life and is part of a big part of chapter 1, well i consider her a main LI for sure.
Lyria's character is more flawed then you make her to be, she isn't perfect. If anything, she relatively forces these feelings and cultural differences onto main character.

Did he accept? Course he did, cause that's kind of the type he is. But Lyria was very self-centered, focused and selfish in terms of her overall feelings. And she made em a burden for him. But, that's fine, cause that's how it was meant to be and was supposed to be.

And no, as I said. She was initially written for 3rd Elleria to come back. She has an appearance in second one, by my plans anyways.

But she does send occasional letters through the whole thing to Eliot and keeps in touch. So here and there, there's a scene when he reads her letters and what's she's up to, and where she is etcetera.
 

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Lyria's character is more flawed then you make her to be, she isn't perfect. If anything, she relatively forces these feelings and cultural differences onto main character.

Did he accept? Course he did, cause that's kind of the type he is. But Lyria was very self-centered, focused and selfish in terms of her overall feelings. And she made em a burden for him. But, that's fine, cause that's how it was meant to be and was supposed to be.

And no, as I said. She was initially written for 3rd Elleria to come back. She has an appearance in second one, by my plans anyways.

But she does send occasional letters through the whole thing to Eliot and keeps in touch. So here and there, there's a scene when he reads her letters and what's she's up to, and where she is etcetera.
well.. i think she was better than you describe her...really, seems like you hate her..and she was gorgeous , expecially in her first look, with tattoo and pink hairs....hope she maybe become more understanding regarding The night goddess that is bound with MC , that's for sure...so she can be with her love for ever soon enough.thanks
 

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well.. i think she was better than you describe her...really, seems like you hate her..and she was gorgeous , expecially in her first look, with tattoo and pink hairs....hope she maybe become more understanding regarding The night goddess that is bound with MC , that's for sure...so she can be with her love for ever soon enough.thanks
I don't hate any character I create. I like some more, some less. Yes. But hate? None. Never. And I also dislike playing favorites, if I don't remain neutral in this field, one character would always have more screen time over another. Which... is bad.

Also, if that statement was true I'd ditch her and she'd never be seen again. Or I'd kill her off in 1000 different ways I can conjure in my head.
 

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Isn't a kinetic novel, by definition, a story with no choices at all?
In a dictionary or some such shit anyway. Here? Who's to say, definitions are here whatever the fuck the loudest people want. So, given some very annoying and loud people.

I've slapped a kinetic on it. Cause, apparently, if "hurr durr I can't pick who I fuck and who I don't fuck" means it should be kinetic! So, there we have it. Yes. Its kinetic.
 
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Naturally. As Eris mentioned, despite it being long time, they're both in good and healthy condition. He just needs to catch up on stuff! :D

And he's a busy bee, but answer is a resounding YES. Don't worry about it!
So she's back......but not back....sigh lol. Could have said she wasn't going to be a main Li or even stick around
 
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So she's back......but not too stay.....sigh lol. Could have said she wasn't going to be a main Li
What can I say, I like drama. Point is, she comes back, eventually, and then she stays. But till then? She serves the story purpose she serves. And when she makes a return again, she'll serve her purpose as she did before. But, she won't leave.

That's the only and best answer I can give, honestly, this particular topic has been hammered to the death.
 

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Isn't a kinetic novel, by definition, a story with no choices at all?
True, but most people here play for the girls not the story, (well the loudest anyway, if not the most). So, I actually like the honesty of the Dev to put that tag on so people know the girls are forced.

It's a lot better, than some devs that throw in a single choice in the entire game whether to put on your left shoe or right shoe first so they can avoid the Kinetic Tag. I'm exaggerating of course, but fake choices happens far to often just to avoid the tag.
 

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Getting an error right after the MC accepts the contract from the misterious priestess at the start of the game and finds Lyria sleeping at the Inn.

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "01Chapter1.rpyc", line 726, in script
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 2557, in execute
    Say.execute(self)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 615, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\exports.py", line 1493, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1376, in __call__
    what = self.prefix_suffix("what", self.what_prefix, what, self.what_suffix)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1290, in prefix_suffix
    return (sub(prefix) + sub(body) + sub(suffix))
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1270, in sub
    return renpy.substitutions.substitute(s, scope=scope, force=force, translate=translate)[0]
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 368, in substitute
    s = interpolate(s, kwargs) # type: ignore
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 86, in interpolate
    raise e
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 78, in interpolate
    value = renpy.python.py_eval(code, {}, scope)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1209, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "<none>", line 1, in <module>
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 310, in __getitem__
    raise NameError("Name '{}' is not defined.".format(key))
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

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Thu Feb  6 21:30:32 2025
 

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Funny how what one person may find annoying, another finds interesting. I for one am very fond of those philosophical dialogues between MC, the Queen, etc. The flow of the dialogue could be better, more "natural", sure, but the ideas being presented are really thought provoking and insightful.
 

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Getting an error right after the MC accepts the contract from the misterious priestess at the start of the game and finds Lyria sleeping at the Inn.

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "01Chapter1.rpyc", line 726, in script
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 2557, in execute
    Say.execute(self)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 615, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\exports.py", line 1493, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1376, in __call__
    what = self.prefix_suffix("what", self.what_prefix, what, self.what_suffix)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1290, in prefix_suffix
    return (sub(prefix) + sub(body) + sub(suffix))
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1270, in sub
    return renpy.substitutions.substitute(s, scope=scope, force=force, translate=translate)[0]
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 368, in substitute
    s = interpolate(s, kwargs) # type: ignore
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 86, in interpolate
    raise e
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 78, in interpolate
    value = renpy.python.py_eval(code, {}, scope)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1209, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "<none>", line 1, in <module>
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 310, in __getitem__
    raise NameError("Name '{}' is not defined.".format(key))
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

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Thu Feb  6 21:30:32 2025
And that is why I told uploader to calm the fuck down, and I told them to give me time to patch game before they leak it.

As I patched this problem today on Steam. But, hey, don't listen to me.
 
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