Yeah I am. And just did.
I am not saying the tag system is perfect but I do think your point about moaning about content in a game when it is clearly tagged as that is invalid.
It was your choice to still play it.
Honestly, if I dislike a game because of it's fetishes I, delete the game recognise I wasted my time and move on.
I don't get all sanctimonious on a forum moaning about content that is clearly tagged before playing. There is no feedback to give here other than you took on the risk yourself with enough info to go by.
You are asking for sign next to river saying 'don't jump in you may drown'. It's asking for the obvious.
Do... Do you not know what a switch is? Do you think a switch has to be with another switch to be happy? I'm going to make this very simple for you since you are using words you don't understand and have poor reading comprehension. A switch is someone who enjoys both dominant and submissive roles, so rather than being hardlocked into either role, I prefer having a variety of content to enjoy.
When I say, "put on a committed path" what I mean is, it is common for many VNs to have a single choice that makes every scene going forward either dominant or submissive. You make the one dominant choice, and your character is "Alpha McTop" for the rest of the story. Conversely you make one submissive choice, and your character is a spineless bottom for the rest of the story. This story is promising both submissive and dominant content in the same playthrough, which a switch like myself would enjoy. I'm don't specifically need every character in the harem game to be switches to enjoy it. I can enjoy submissive content with one character and dominant content with another.
If anything I prefer it this way as giving the individual characters preferences helps define them as characters with personalities.
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"A Breathtaking Encounter" is REDACTED in the Data screen. Did I miss something and failed to unlock it, or is it just removed for now?
so these looks like linear game with one main ending and choices mainly being about optional content right?
Great so far, enjoyed it, good luck with development! And I don't see how this is femdom, all scenes so far were pretty tame considering the girls never seen a cock before
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I'm on the opposite side to you, I don't like femdom or maledom.
Glad you liked it.
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Out of all places we've posted games to, this place is the only one that gets weird about it. A girl is on top for a fairly vanilla scene and people seem to grumble for pages and pages here...
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But to clarify, the "vibe" in-game more like Zero-two from Darling in the Franxx or like Season1 of High School DxD (Akeno, Rias Gremory). There are some playful-assertive personalities or love interests who have a bit more life experience than the MC. There's no very kinky BDSM play, no whips, no chains, no collars. A tiny amount of optional "bedroom roleplay" is still possible if there's big demand for it. But it is our intent that "harem" content will be quite tame. The MC is the new rookie joining an experienced team of adventurers who tease or "toy" with him a bit. We know not everyone can imagine themselves in that role, but it's just the route already picked.
As the MC comes out of his shell a bit, learns about the world, there will be a few submissive love-interests down the road. Until then, we wouldn't be able to do those romances proper justice if it suddenly came out of the blue while he's still dealing with his major "issues" in the first act.
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You have to understand that many maledom fans are incredibly insecure and will lash out if they so much as see a girl taking the lead during a sex scene. You just have to ignore them, they'll eventually get tired of whining and go play one of the hundreds of generic maledom harem games on this site.
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it's in the game and more fluff than anything else - think back if something involved breathing during meeting a certain someone
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overall I really enjoyed what I saw so far
the little animations, the way you are choosing your name (not just "enter name here" but actually with an in-universe reason), the way new characters get there own little intro scene etc -as a first experience for someone who is interested and trying the game out it shows the dev cares about the project and makes me exited for what's to come
there is not much content yet but what I saw I liked
I enjoy the aspect of "giving up power" in femdom and taking on a passive role while being "used" or toyed with by the other party - not a fan of hardcore content like BDSM, piss and stuff like that and judging by the comment by the author above we won't see that
a certain hero who likes to touch fluffy tails showed me the joy of falling prey to monsters tho - so I'm kind of looking forward to accidentally getting caught by some of them here
in the beginning I hoped to see the "milking" process but I guess we have to wait for content with that faction for now
guess it makes sense not to show it if the protagonist isn't even conscious I guess
not really a critic but more like confusing was that the first 2 scenes where animated, the 3rd one wasn't
will not all scenes be animated or or this case because of some rework and will be fixed later?
and a final question about the "switch" dynamic for characters - will the player have a choice for scenes what role he wants to take (when it makes sense of course) or will scenes involving a switch play out depending on what the dev decides / what fits the moment?
I understand that giving a choice for those scenes would require separate animations to play which means more work - so I can understand if that will not be the case.
nevertheless
a promising start and I wish you good luck with the project
I'll definitely follow it
I just want to ask . Saying there being monster girls as a theme, I dont actually see any that showcase the main characters. ? Like if I look at the banner, its just a cast of humans.
Will the MC actually get some monster girls as main characters of the story with him ? or is the game just going to treat them as enemies ? Hell fhave to fight every so often ? It did sound like in the preview and info, that he would make bonds with some ?
Will the MC actually get some monster girls as main characters of the story with him ? or is the game just going to treat them as enemies ? Hell fhave to fight every so often ? It did sound like in the preview and info, that he would make bonds with some ?
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To be honest, and I say this as someone who doesn't mind the content at all and will be giving this game a look, he's 100% right on this aspect of how nuanced the tagging system is on here.
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Either way, all the best to dev, I'll be giving the game a look, but most users would appreciate a bit of a heads up that the girls are all going to be aggressive "at first" and MC will have character development as the story advances. That MC will grow as a character is my cup of tea in particular. Being able to turn the tables on at least a few of them would be nice too.
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How do you get the breath taking encounter achievement? It still has a question mark but says redacuted, so idk if it's unlockable
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using the search function is never easy I see
even if the answer is less than 5 comments above you
even if the answer is less than 5 comments above you
or if you need an even clearer answerit's in the game and more fluff than anything else - think back if something involved breathing during meeting a certain someone
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Thanks I didn't even think about the breathing option lol
And rip finally got a search function comment used on me. I usually use it too for the games I play on here but didn't look this time and got caught lacking
Disclaimer: In no way am I saying the creator has to do "this" or "that", it's merely my opinion based on my own experience creating NSFW games. The creator can do whatever they want in the end, obviously.
I wanted to share my thoughts regarding the femdom stuff, as a fellow developer. Mainly that, in my opinion, you're missing out on a large audience by not allowing player agency when it comes to a contentious tag such as femdom. Let me explain in more detail, because it's not so black and white, and I'm not saying any and all devs should just cater to everyone no matter what.
If you're making a BDSM game, bondage—the whole works—then yeah, obviously, the game is what it is. People trying to change it away from that would just be making no sense. This is contrasted by this game's situation, where the only real contentious tag is femdom.
The reason why the response "against" femdom is so strong is because, as pointed out by others, the tag when used on F95 is useless on its own and needs more details. It is used both for games that have a single scene that constitutes 0.1% of the total game, games where it's completely optional, and games where it is the focus and unavoidable. Also the reason why you get more pushback here compared to something like itch, is because this is a forum dedicated to talking about the game(s), and a forum userbase is naturally more inclined to say anything in the first place. (My personal itch.io, although it gets daily comments, is nothing compared to the F95 thread, both good and bad.) Don't forget people are so passionate about it, because they care. It's because they want to like and enjoy your game. (Completely toxic and non-constructive people aside. I don't think they're worthy to discuss.)
So anyway, my point here is by not allowing the user some agency to avoid femdom, you're losing out on a chunk of people who would've otherwise loved the game. But that one contentious tag is a killer for that audience (in its unavoidable form).
But what do I mean by that? "Just change your game to cater to as large an audience as you can and destroy your vision for your game, muahaha!"? Yes! Just kidding, of course not
I am saying, from a development standpoint (although of course still an opinion based on my own experience), that there are multiple ways to make femdom optional while "costing" a reasonable amount of development work for what you create.
Let me give examples from off the top of my head:
To re-iterate, the only reason I think this is viable is because it can be done with a reasonable amount of work for a chunk of players that can now also enjoy your game. Don't forget that 99.9% of players never say anything and just play the game. Many of such supporters would also benefit from user agency, both the ones that go from being unable to play it, and the ones who play despite not being a fan of femdom. Of course, femdom players are eating good regardless, as what they get is completely untouched.
If there is no chance of flexibility here, I would really recommend a very clear message in the OP (typically written in yellow on F95) stating something akin to "Femdom is a major theme and is unavoidable." I'd even suggest adding it to the startup splash or as a warning when starting a new game, simply for clarity, as it is not stated anywhere else from what I could see on your various pages (F95, itch.io, Patreon Subscribestar). That'll deter all of the ones who just don't like femdom to not try the game at all, and as such being disappointed about it being unavoidable is now on them—even more so for the people who might mistakenly donate to something that later will include content they would not want to monetarily support. Gotta make sure people are informed as much as possible, eh?
All that aside, I really enjoyed the quality of the game. Congrats on the (re-?)release. I wish you success in your endeavours.
I wanted to share my thoughts regarding the femdom stuff, as a fellow developer. Mainly that, in my opinion, you're missing out on a large audience by not allowing player agency when it comes to a contentious tag such as femdom. Let me explain in more detail, because it's not so black and white, and I'm not saying any and all devs should just cater to everyone no matter what.
If you're making a BDSM game, bondage—the whole works—then yeah, obviously, the game is what it is. People trying to change it away from that would just be making no sense. This is contrasted by this game's situation, where the only real contentious tag is femdom.
The reason why the response "against" femdom is so strong is because, as pointed out by others, the tag when used on F95 is useless on its own and needs more details. It is used both for games that have a single scene that constitutes 0.1% of the total game, games where it's completely optional, and games where it is the focus and unavoidable. Also the reason why you get more pushback here compared to something like itch, is because this is a forum dedicated to talking about the game(s), and a forum userbase is naturally more inclined to say anything in the first place. (My personal itch.io, although it gets daily comments, is nothing compared to the F95 thread, both good and bad.) Don't forget people are so passionate about it, because they care. It's because they want to like and enjoy your game. (Completely toxic and non-constructive people aside. I don't think they're worthy to discuss.)
So anyway, my point here is by not allowing the user some agency to avoid femdom, you're losing out on a chunk of people who would've otherwise loved the game. But that one contentious tag is a killer for that audience (in its unavoidable form).
But what do I mean by that? "Just change your game to cater to as large an audience as you can and destroy your vision for your game, muahaha!"? Yes! Just kidding, of course not
I am saying, from a development standpoint (although of course still an opinion based on my own experience), that there are multiple ways to make femdom optional while "costing" a reasonable amount of development work for what you create.
Let me give examples from off the top of my head:
- Alt dialogue. You can make a world of difference with how a scene plays out, depending on how the characters talk. For example, the Eris HJ scene would play very differently if the text was different when you aren't choosing the passive choices during that. Of course, that scene is animated to also be more on the femdom side with her facial expressions and her holding MC, which brings me to the second option.
- Minor animation changes. To use the same scene as an example, you won't be changing much overall. If you don't take the passive dialogue options, then have the scene play alt animations that are identical except very-easy-to-change things like facial expressions, and more-or-less static limb placement. For example, Eris has less of an arrogant/smug/whatever you want to call it grin, with the MC perhaps having less of a "completely under her control" face. (An argument could be made he'd make those at the start of the game, but quickly stop making those faces in scenes as he gets used to the stimulation I suppose, but better to just split them up under the choices for simplicity.) Limb placement would refer to, for example, how she is holding him up, and instead remove that and/or have MC do something more than passively having his arms by his side.
Again, I am talking simple things here as much as possible, I'm not saying to start having him grope her and all kinds of extra animations unless such things are viable with minimal effort—more so just static placement (that can also make use of body language). - Alt routes. I am not talking huge branches here, but very small ones. These are best used for when you have a femdom scene that is particularly difficult to make optional or modify to be non-femdom, in other words when the other options on this list are difficult to pull off. In such a case, you can make a tiny branch with alt content that as quickly as possible weaves back into the story.
- Avoidable scenes. If nothing else on the list is really an option, make it canonically avoidable (not skippable, where you just don't see it.) Personally I have yet to see any case where things cannot be written in a manner to make this possible in the worst case scenario, and that's without ruining the integrity of the game. Also remember, people who want to see the scene will see it, and those who don't just won't.
To re-iterate, the only reason I think this is viable is because it can be done with a reasonable amount of work for a chunk of players that can now also enjoy your game. Don't forget that 99.9% of players never say anything and just play the game. Many of such supporters would also benefit from user agency, both the ones that go from being unable to play it, and the ones who play despite not being a fan of femdom. Of course, femdom players are eating good regardless, as what they get is completely untouched.
If there is no chance of flexibility here, I would really recommend a very clear message in the OP (typically written in yellow on F95) stating something akin to "Femdom is a major theme and is unavoidable." I'd even suggest adding it to the startup splash or as a warning when starting a new game, simply for clarity, as it is not stated anywhere else from what I could see on your various pages (F95, itch.io, Patreon Subscribestar). That'll deter all of the ones who just don't like femdom to not try the game at all, and as such being disappointed about it being unavoidable is now on them—even more so for the people who might mistakenly donate to something that later will include content they would not want to monetarily support. Gotta make sure people are informed as much as possible, eh?
All that aside, I really enjoyed the quality of the game. Congrats on the (re-?)release. I wish you success in your endeavours.
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Thanks for the response, AureliusBlaze. Here is a bit of perspective from our side:
Also, the "strong" response is really just the same 4-5 user names that we recognize from other past game threads. Though we do reasonably understand some people are disappointed that it's not their cup of tea especially when custom animated games are rare. But ultimately we have to pick and choose a few key elements to focus on, lest it dilute the content for everyone (story-focus, monster-girls, aggressive waifus, worldbuilding).
Animations changes like this are unfortunately never "minor" and actually take a lot of work (and file-size). We actually did add a lot of "alt dialogue" options for the remaster, just that they weren't completely broad so as to avoid everything: mostly just to acknowledge a few options that the viewer might be feeling at the moment.
We'll keep it in mind though for far-future story when the game's H-content starts to become slightly more balanced and the MC is more out of his shell.
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Having so many aggressive love interests means that we can do "group scenes" in the future of a focused nature. We'd like to actually offer something unique and dive into that niche. Eris and Lily are definitely going to "double team" the MC in the future for example. But as for submissive love interests, we would rather introduce new characters and give them distinct personalities. We think that part of the charm of this game is giving the waifus a bit of "their own personality" instead of always conforming.
That is the audience we're chasing specifically. There is a gap in the market since not many good femdom games exist, so it's easy to stand out among adjacent titles. For any fetish, some people are always looking to pay big especially if done to a high-standard. Could we have made a non-femdom game that made a bit more or reached more people in totality for the foreseeable future? most definitely. But leaning on the femdom community for advertising/backing for a few titles in their infancy is what allowed this (and other) projects to get support early on to reach this point. We're sort of obligated to stay the course. The audience is maybe smaller, but they're much more willing to back projects while they are still relatively unknown. We're trying to be tolerable still to a wide variety of folks by not going to extremes with certain content. Most people tolerate some level of "aggressiveness/assertiveness" from love interests. It's just a matter of what degree and that's what the "chart" shows. Most of the "feistier femdom" content down the line will lean more towards being optional.
From experience, it's *not that contentious*, especially when the content is light and parallels can be found in other popular anime shows where the protagonist is often a bit shy. We do get that femdom has a wide meaning, so we'll look to better clarify things.
Also, the "strong" response is really just the same 4-5 user names that we recognize from other past game threads. Though we do reasonably understand some people are disappointed that it's not their cup of tea especially when custom animated games are rare. But ultimately we have to pick and choose a few key elements to focus on, lest it dilute the content for everyone (story-focus, monster-girls, aggressive waifus, worldbuilding).
Let's just say that the game has a specific pre-planned story it wants to tell and so it'd be a bit difficult for the MC to veer off into a different personality set in the first act. It's a bit difficult to do meaningful narrative branches at the beginning of the game this early. The ripple effects throughout the story change how the characters/interactions/vibes feel for many chapters down the line. For example, a lot will hinge on Eris being a personality who often will invade your personal space, and we need the audience to see her as such first in order to tell funny jokes, make her backstory impactful, or subvert expectations in the future.
Animations changes like this are unfortunately never "minor" and actually take a lot of work (and file-size). We actually did add a lot of "alt dialogue" options for the remaster, just that they weren't completely broad so as to avoid everything: mostly just to acknowledge a few options that the viewer might be feeling at the moment.
We'll keep it in mind though for far-future story when the game's H-content starts to become slightly more balanced and the MC is more out of his shell.
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Having so many aggressive love interests means that we can do "group scenes" in the future of a focused nature. We'd like to actually offer something unique and dive into that niche. Eris and Lily are definitely going to "double team" the MC in the future for example. But as for submissive love interests, we would rather introduce new characters and give them distinct personalities. We think that part of the charm of this game is giving the waifus a bit of "their own personality" instead of always conforming.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the kind words.
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Eris is super freaking cute (and hot) and frankly I have no problem with her taking control...I think she's also animated better this time around sheeeessh
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For fuck's sake, finally another dev who heard about the shading and the Timeline plugin before posting an umpteenth shitty generic KK game.
It's a VN and I'm a Sandbox simp, so sadly it's not for me, but it's worth pointing out when someone helps restore Koikatsu's games reputation.
Good luck, man.
It's a VN and I'm a Sandbox simp, so sadly it's not for me, but it's worth pointing out when someone helps restore Koikatsu's games reputation.
Good luck, man.