VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[SpikyHair]

I think there will be 12 main characters at most, I have solid plans for 2 more right now. Each main character usually gets a side character that will stick with them. And each main character has many opportunities to spawn side characters from their stories.

First of all, thanks for the laughs, and tears, and overall good time. Loved the characters (some more than others, and the MC was frequently one of the latter), renders are as delicious as always (doubly amazing considering what you use), writing was really solid where it mattered (though not a big fan of MC with his "sticking it in will make you my instant slut, also best you'll ever have" dick, but porn games logic is porn games logic).

Just finished playing through 10.2. My last experience was somewhere around version... 8? Long time ago, anyway.

Spoiler: Favorite scenes

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The cast already stated to feel crowded with the addition of second floor. There are so many possible interactions between the existing characters that never happen, I found it a real shame that story progression happened so fast as to prevent them. As much as I enjoy the new additions, personally I liked the individual side interactions between everyone already in place so much better. Especially Moon (#MakeMoonMainGirl) - her dynamic with Maria was just fantastic. More, please, and also with others. Also, clocking out the MC for going too far was the best shortest scene in the whole game.

I'm too bloody poor to throw into the patreon pot (or, rather, do it thorugh itch.io because sod Patreon in the first place), so not exactly a voice that matters much, but I think you're missing out on a lot of potential by focusing on the main story progression. Would've been awesome to have far, far more interactions (especially if they also took under consideration the various sex stats the player can grind!) between the "main" cast. Doubly so (or... triply by now?) if they also played differently depending on individual character's story progression. I get it, it's a lot of work, and after all the time you've spent setting things up you're probably eager to let the story bouncing around your head out, but the latter part of the game felt... rushed, I guess? At least in terms of individual characterization, much less potential interactions between everyone.

You created fantastic characters. Personally, as much as I'm curious where the main story is headed (not to mention getting more Sanctuary-inhabitants scenes), I'd love to see a lot more side scenes (perhaps repeatable, and changing with appropriate stats involved?) even at the expense of main story's development. Dunno, guess I just like the "small scale" Harem Hotel that much more than the whole sociopolitical-involvement scope of it.

Also, some things in the main story really bug me (spoilered for people who don't want to wade through wall-of-text posts):

Spoiler: Storytelling is SRS business blah blah

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Anyway, thanks for the game. Again, nitpicking at plot of any game don't happen on my end unless I really, really enjoyed it

P.S. Moar character interactions, plox. Story can wait? >.>
P.S.2: Also, where's the unavoidable slumber party (and the gossip, and the sex games - no "spin the bottle" scenes in yet?!) for, at least, the main girls? Make it happen!
P.S.3: Hot springs are vastly underused for their potential of bringing people together. In all meanings of the word, not necessarily just sex.

 

[Mmushy]

Replaying the game (slave route for the 3 elves) and realized I have completed everything and everyone except for Sylvia at 1/2.
Got a bj from her. What else am I missing?

 

[TheDevian]

Replaying the game (slave route for the 3 elves) and realized I have completed everything and everyone except for Sylvia at 1/2.
Got a bj from her. What else am I missing?

No idea, having not played that route, but did you get her to help with Nia's BJ?

 

[tonicase24]

Replaying the game (slave route for the 3 elves) and realized I have completed everything and everyone except for Sylvia at 1/2.
Got a bj from her. What else am I missing?

you need to wait a few days...then get a boob job from Nia..an then have Sylvia clean up the mess

 

[Mmushy]

you need to wait a few days...then get a boob job from Nia..an then have Sylvia clean up the mess

Already did that. A boob job from Nia and coming in Sylvia's mouth.
Also have a bj by Sylvia.
In the "stats" I have completed all the stories and all the side characters except Sylvia's 1/2.

 

[timotefiru]

So I made some patch files for the original (not the more compressed ones) 0.10.x PC version of Harem Hotel.

Thank you so much dude, you saved me tons of time since I had downloaded .10.1 and got Lain's mod for .10.2, it takes forever for me to download and uncompress the complete package, I was dreading having to download again. I don't know why Runey doesn't just offer patches himself. Thanks again!

 

[Skode]

Side charecters...there's Kate, Nia, Ann, Sylvia, Maria's "sister", Ellen. And more i can't think of at the moment.

Yeah but I was curious about the fact he said each main character had a side character which sticks around - the likes of Moon, Ellen, the Sanctuary slaves are side characters in their own right but I was thinking of the MC based side characters specifically.

Maria of course has her old BFF on the scene now and will be a prominent feature, Ashley will likely have Kate who not only is a classmate of hers but literally is declaring an interest in threesomes and watching MC bang her and of course Kali and Lin have their sisters ie Lucie and best girl Jin. Jin might I add is also the clearly designated side character for Violet - a very wise choice indeed my little vampire.

Whats less obvious is the specific side girls who stick around when you think of Android, The Twins and Autumn unless they've not been added yet or quite ready to be prominent in the story alongside them (Autumns sister a likely option but we need to be further on with her before we add her into the mix).

As for the much discussed missing Sylvia scene are you referring to love or slave route? You should have an option to begin her training pretty quickly into her story and I did that café scene with her long before bothering with Nia related content and also before i even touched the newest story content with Lin and their litte adventure together. This of course was the slave route on my playthrough.

 

[Deleted member 2107272]

I hate to get political here of all places, but I wonder what Runey's politics are.

Now, I get that this is a game, and at a certain point you get to explain away certain problems with "it's fiction.", but I don't think you quite get to do that with the economics of slavery. Plenty of people believe that slavery is beneficial to the slaveowners, but it's not. Slavery did not benefit a country like the US, in fact, the US had more economic growth after slavery was abolished. Slavery doesn't only mean that slaves have it horribly, it also means that the wealthy, the masters, also have it worse than they would if slaves were free - after all, slaves don't have much money to spend, slaves need guards to ensure that they work, and slaves never get to be managers or entrepreneurs or similar, even if that's where they would be the most beneficial to the society. Even in the modern world, there is an obvious difference between the countries that had slavery in 1750 and those that didn't, when comparing their economies.

Slavery doesn't make anyone wealthy or powerful. The "country X is powerful because they have slaves" line is wrong. Slavery is unnecessary. It makes things worse for everyone, and it doesn't make anyone powerful. What improves economies is liberty, freedom to work whatever job you want, to create whatever business people demand and lead it the way you see best, and freedom to trade freely with whomever you want. If slavery worked, you'd see a lot more of it in the wealthiest places on the planet, and you'd never see it abolished. But it doesn't.

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[Havik79]

It's a porno game, you are supposed to think about fapping to whichever girl gets you hard, not think about slavery in a porno game.

 

[SnowyS]

Already did that. A boob job from Nia and coming in Sylvia's mouth.
Also have a bj by Sylvia.
In the "stats" I have completed all the stories and all the side characters except Sylvia's 1/2.

First, the first build had a bug with this I think? So make sure you're on the latest.
Second, it took me a while as well. Just wait, and eventually you'll get a slave training option for Sylvia.

Edit:
Yah... I already had the code uncompiled to look at something else, and all it takes is being on slave route and 2 days.
But, this is the version with the bug fixed.
My guess would be that on v0.10, the delay never counted down. If so, you'd need 2 days from when you first load a save on 0.10.1 or later.

Edit edit: Yah, based on the delay debug info getting printed to the dev console, that is the case.

 

[metlin]

lin <3

 

[CravenGrave]

I'm fucking amazed by the story. Some of it is just really well done. Even if some of it can be quite a downer (poor Ashley).

 

[Badjourasmix]

Finally had the time to play this update and I really enjoyed it. The only thing that I could say I didn't enjoy that much is the slave route, it's cool that you have the option between the slave and love routes. But I feel the slave route goes against what the MC and Lin are trying to accomplish. In the future I will stick with my original choice of the love route.

 

[Havik79]

Finally had the time to play this update and I really enjoyed it. The only thing that I could say I didn't enjoy that much is the slave route, it's cool that you have the option between the slave and love routes. But I feel the slave route goes against what the MC and Lin are trying to accomplish. In the future I will stick with my original choice of the love route.

They kidnap you and hit you over the head with a bat, and force you to spend money on them, sounds fair to me
The simple fact is, odds are people are not using that logic and just pick slave, so seems to stand reason that Runey would do stuff for slave first.

Maybe now that Lain added a cheat to let you change Nia and Slyvia from lover to slave, she might let Runey use it and he might start making lovers stuff.

 

[Nogood88]

Can someone tell me how to continue on the Android story ... did I forget something?

 

[Badjourasmix]

They kidnap you and hit you over the head with a bat, and force you to spend money on them, sounds fair to me
The simple fact is, odds are people are not using that logic and just pick slave, so seems to stand reason that Runey would do stuff for slave first.

Maybe now that Lain added a cheat to let you change Nia and Slyvia from lover to slave, she might let Runey use it and he might start making lovers stuff.

Even though the way they did things was not the best (to say the least), I get why they would resort to drastic measures, most people don't seem to be that nice to slaves, it was a desperate attempt to at least have a master that would treat them nicely. To me it just didn't feel right to choose the slave route. Runey will eventually make love content for them so I will just have to be patient.

 

[Deleted member 929426]

Can someone tell me how to continue on the Android story ... did I forget something?

Your save is corrupt so isn't much help; however, if I had to guess at where you might be in Android's story, you probably have to talk to some of the other girls first (probably Lin) before unlocking her event.

 

[SpikyHair]

Now, I get that this is a game, and at a certain point you get to explain away certain problems with "it's fiction.", but I don't think you quite get to do that with the economics of slavery. Plenty of people believe that slavery is beneficial to the slaveowners, but it's not.

Spoiler: DeepThoughts™

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tl;dr: People suck, and are short-sighted enough that Runey's presentation of slavery, even disregarding storytelling prerogative, does not personally strike me as unrealistic.

Edit: I mean:

They kidnap you and hit you over the head with a bat, and force you to spend money on them, sounds fair to me

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[Runey]

I hate to get political here of all places, but I wonder what Runey's politics are.

Now, I get that this is a game, and at a certain point you get to explain away certain problems with "it's fiction.", but I don't think you quite get to do that with the economics of slavery. Plenty of people believe that slavery is beneficial to the slaveowners, but it's not. Slavery did not benefit a country like the US, in fact, the US had more economic growth after slavery was abolished. Slavery doesn't only mean that slaves have it horribly, it also means that the wealthy, the masters, also have it worse than they would if slaves were free - after all, slaves don't have much money to spend, slaves need guards to ensure that they work, and slaves never get to be managers or entrepreneurs or similar, even if that's where they would be the most beneficial to the society. Even in the modern world, there is an obvious difference between the countries that had slavery in 1750 and those that didn't, when comparing their economies.

Slavery doesn't make anyone wealthy or powerful. The "country X is powerful because they have slaves" line is wrong. Slavery is unnecessary. It makes things worse for everyone, and it doesn't make anyone powerful. What improves economies is liberty, freedom to work whatever job you want, to create whatever business people demand and lead it the way you see best, and freedom to trade freely with whomever you want. If slavery worked, you'd see a lot more of it in the wealthiest places on the planet, and you'd never see it abolished. But it doesn't.

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I don't want to get too public about my political views, but I am politically active. I lean left and I'm definitely against slavery. HH actually has a few of my political views in there if you look hard enough for them. Kali and her Dad, as well as Lin.

The nation of Syl'anar is a Capitalist Republic, they allow a fully free market with monopolies and slavery, however they're rich enough to afford some social programs, such as socialized health care (only for humans). I try to make it a point to show how a Capitalist Republic has huge flaws but can also have benefits. This isn't my ideal form of government.

The claim that slaves don't help an economy is a very odd one to make. Slaves were used to build the foundations of many nations (I disagree with how it's done) but without slaves you can't exactly jump start a nation. Otherwise you would have treat everyone fairly and that gets in the way of things... (Still would rather everyone be treated equally)

As for the claim that the US economy grew after slaves were freed, that's probably true but a little something called the Industrial Revolution also came at that time. There's no doubt in my mind it's better if no one is a slave, but that's not how history developed. It was profitable to have slaves until it was more profitable to use machines.

That form of slavery is irrelevant in the modern age, modern slavery consists of chinese wage slaves working for scraps to make things cheap for the US. This is also what the Elves in HH do.

And again, while I fully disagree with slavery, it's ignorant to say Slavery doesn't have benefits. An army of warrior slaves makes you powerful, an army of worker slaves makes you wealthy. If you have 1,000 people mining gold for you as you only pay them in bread, do you really think you're not going to become wealthy?

The world of HH explores a time where slavery never stopped and continued into the modern era. This is what modern slavery looks like. People doing labor for scraps and the high class shitting in their golden toilets. In this case, humans.

I make it a point to show how Syl'anar works and that while it works, it's not perfect. It's incredibly stupid to not treat elves equally especially considering the elders of their species are incredibly, incredibly wise. Elves learn slower, but they accumulate more wisdom, they would make great world leaders. But racism persists in this world largely because it makes people like Cornwall powerful and Kali's Dad one of the wealthiest men in the world. And as you know, Kali's Dad himself isn't racist, his wife is half elf, but he supports a racist system that keeps elves enslaved.

 

[Deleted member 929426]

As for the claim that the US economy grew after slaves were freed, that's probably true but a little something called the Industrial Revolution also came at that time. There's no doubt in my mind it's better if no one is a slave, but that's not how history developed. It was profitable to have slaves until it was more profitable to use machines.

I'd think there's also the fact that the country was still very young up to the time of the Civil War, at least, and still trying to figure itself out. The freeing of slaves may have had a part in the development of the country, but it's doubtful that it was the only contributing factor.