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Related to your unrelated news NJ, these look very good but I feel they kinda defeat the purpose of the game, the Syuro-style characters are perfect for the Animal Crossing vibe, wish you the best babe
Personally? I 100% agree, I greatly prefer the shortstack version. Not only do I just like shortstacks but:
- The head being proportionally larger means faces are more visible (and thus more expressive).
- Genitals are proportionally larger, same advantage as above.
- It's easier to fit more of the character in frame, so I need to worry less about choosing the right aspect ratio for image gens.
- My models are mostly trained on shortstack/chibi images, so I'm kinda swimming uphill to make the characters taller.

However, there are number of pros:
- I can already all the things I want with the furry version, and the furry version is even more perfectly suited for the animal crossing vibe.
- The whole point of the non-furry version is to make syrup town more palletable to my general audience, which the current version just isn't doing.
- I'll definitely end up making more games with shortstacks, so there's plenty of opportunity for non-furry shorties in the future.
- I need more experience with generating non-shortstack characters, and already wanted an excuse to add the tails and ears onto the non-furry cast.
- Knowing that my more general vanilla audience is eating well will help my state of mind.

Plus, keep this a secret between you and me, but I'm pretty sure I can sneak in at least some shortstack shots without people noticing, and I can just claim it's a weird angle ;)

you might wanna check that third picture again
Oops

Nice to see an update on this

While playing i've noticed several things:

The store has this Neko outfit and I don't know for which character it is.

Quinn disappears for me after completing his content.

There are missing pictures (Hex, Sub, Elizabeth and Jill) during talking.

I also don't know who Dahlia is.(She is mentioned twice in the changelog and neither say when she was added)
The neko outfit is for Zoe, though I don't remember what its for.

Quinn disappearing is intentional. There was planned to be one last status quo with repeatable scenes, but I didn't finish them. A huge amount of shots I uncensored didn't make it into v33, I'll have to come back to finish them, though doing v33 was really exhausting, idk when v34 might be.

Could you tell me what visual style you're using, and if you have pervert mode on? That's likely a coding mistake trying to find an alt version of images that don't have any.

Oops, by Dahlia I meant Ophelia, sorry. My test save has that character renamed, that's my goof.

A very very interesting game with alot of potential

Adore the Futa content too
Thanks! Though, actually, due to the game's age the engine is slowing me down a lot. I'd say the game only has a couple of updates max before I need to make a sequel/spiritual successor.

how to achieve the achievement:
Use common sense manipulation on Victoria, then bring her with you to a certain girl's porn studio. To get the crown, go to sleep after getting all three of these last achievements!

sorry I tried a lot but I am not sure how to achieve it
If you send me your save I can try and see what you're still missing.

this is not a pc game right
This is a pc game, it's made to be run in your browser, and it's built in HTML and javascript. However, mobile users can play via the online link. I can't confirm myself but some users have said the game runs fine on the Xbox browser, however I don't know about playstation, and I seriously doubt it works on Nintendo 3ds.

There is a .apk file so you can install it onto android devices.
 
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The neko outfit seems to be a bug, because the neko outfit scene for zoe is already unlocked.
I loaded the Update and it was the only thing in stock, so I assumed it was a new thing.

The Pictures work fine with "The Basics" wich asks for a "hex.jpg", the other three ask for a "hexT.png".
Looking into the files, all of the "__T.png" variants seem to be missing. Pervert mode was off, turnig it on did'nt change anything.

Checking the gallery Miranda Moore's "Daniela & Madison" throws me an error.
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The Hypnosis appointments are named "Victoria Devons" is there a technical reason for that? Also no picture which looks wierd.

Loading the update both Quinn and the Delinquent Trio were marked as "Complete!" from the previous times I played. Is that a technical limitation or a bug?
 

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A sequel or spiritual successor?

My idea is like...Hentai City or Company, after all, when you finish university you need A JOB LMAKK
Half of the content for this is already just in the city. Company I could see, but could also see something else. Maybe something more sci-fi or traditional fantasy.
 

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A sequel or spiritual successor?

My idea is like...Hentai City or Company, after all, when you finish university you need A JOB LMAKK
The actual "university" part of hentai university was pretty minor all things considered, this game pretty much is hentai city already.

The neko outfit seems to be a bug, because the neko outfit scene for zoe is already unlocked.
I loaded the Update and it was the only thing in stock, so I assumed it was a new thing.

The Pictures work fine with "The Basics" wich asks for a "hex.jpg", the other three ask for a "hexT.png".
Looking into the files, all of the "__T.png" variants seem to be missing. Pervert mode was off, turnig it on did'nt change anything.

Checking the gallery Miranda Moore's "Daniela & Madison" throws me an error.
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The Hypnosis appointments are named "Victoria Devons" is there a technical reason for that? Also no picture which looks wierd.

Loading the update both Quinn and the Delinquent Trio were marked as "Complete!" from the previous times I played. Is that a technical limitation or a bug?
Interesting to note the neko outfit bug, thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Hmm, yes, the __T.png thing is a bug. Thank you for letting me know.

Whoops, I must have saved the brown-president scene in the wrong file.

I believe that bug is related to crypto using Victoria's .js file for the hypnosis appointments, though the error is probably on my end. I think I had it working before but broke something for either v32 or v33, probably to get the .apk file working since I copied a bunch of syrup town code.

Yes the characters being marked as complete from previous versions is a technical limitation. In Syrup Town and future games I have systems in place to actually check if the character is complete or not, but in Hentai University a character is marked as complete when you get their reward text and there's no easy way to unmark them that wouldn't affect how Lily handles her reset system.

Half of the content for this is already just in the city. Company I could see, but could also see something else. Maybe something more sci-fi or traditional fantasy.
The original plan was Hentai Fantasy, and I do still like that idea, since there's a lot that can be done in a fantasy setting that wouldn't work in a modern day setting. Magic, potions, elves...

goblins

Though, the only reason I picked a fantasy setting for the next adventure was because I was running out of image sets. That's not as much of an issue anymore now that I can just snap my fingers and have a maroon-haired sado-femboy

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Still, maybe fantasy is the way to go? For modern day stuff, I worry I'll burn out since many modern-day scenes and character designs I come up with are being used for Syrup Town.

I also have a sci-fi game, Argent Science, on the backburner, but sci-fi takes a lot more legwork for me to get something off the ground. I want a TiTs-style gameplay engine for that as well, so that's a lot of work on top of designing sci-fi outfits and weapons and making LoRas to generate them consistently?

Maybe an interesting design area is urban fantasy? Goblin shortstacks in modern day pajamas?

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Granted, HU already basically is urban fantasy already.

WAIT...let him cook
Okay I'll let him cook

If you wanted to do a spin-off, some of the endings would probably do great expanded into a full game.
Good to hear from you, it's been a while, I hope you're well!

Any endings in particular? Personally, I'm not a big fan of management-type games, so the ones where you've taken over the school would be a fair bit of work for what I think is not a ton of payoff, but it could be interesting to take a break from my usual style and write something a lot more hands-off.

Aside from that off the top of my head following up Gou's ending could be interesting, a game taking place in the Noodleverse(tm)'s version of hell could be fun.

Aside from that MoP, did you see the posts on artstyles? As one of the most verbose of the thread's participants I'd be interested to know if you bounced off Syrup Town's artstyle, and if the alternative one would be more your steez (though if you bounced off the game's tone that's perfectly fine):
https://thef95zone.info/threads/hentai-university-v33-noodlejacuzzi.37312/post-16600301
https://thef95zone.info/threads/hentai-university-v33-noodlejacuzzi.37312/post-16645812
 

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Maybe an interesting design area is urban fantasy? Goblin shortstacks in modern day pajamas?

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Granted, HU already basically is urban fantasy already.
Urban Fantasy is underrated these days, as someone that runs lewd urban fantasy fairly often, and started off with VtM, and remembered how good things like FMA were back in the day. I think that's a solid pick.

This said I do need to say it, the art set content is always going to be better then the AI stuff, at least for a long time.

You don't get any creative poses, you don't get any sex toys in these, and the expressions from the AI always feel copy and pasted. It's also just not the art style we like as long time fans, we want more anime/mana and CG look, and less western air bush art.

It's not a deal breaker for me, after all I'll play games without any art, but it is anything exciting.
 

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Well whatever you do I hope it has actual futa and hopefully pregnancy.
Sorry, I'm just not into true futa. Even now that I can do whatever I want with image sets I still find myself avoiding it, I don't know why but having both a vagoo and a painus turns me away, even though it really shouldn't. It's a similar dislike to when I see bara/masculine male characters.

As for pregnancy a character in Syrup Town has it as their main focus, and it's the main plot of that game's equivalent of the PTSA. The character, Mary-Lou, is getting a redesign though so I don't have many shots of the non-furry version, and I'm still trying to find an artstyle to settle on. I'm not sure where on the cartoony/realistic-esque scale to put the taller versions of the characters yet.

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Urban Fantasy is underrated these days, as someone that runs lewd urban fantasy fairly often, and started off with VtM, and remembered how good things like FMA were back in the day. I think that's a solid pick.


This said I do need to say it, the art set content is always going to be better then the AI stuff, at least for a long time.


You don't get any creative poses, you don't get any sex toys in these, and the expressions from the AI always feel copy and pasted. It's also just not the art style we like as long time fans, we want more anime/mana and CG look, and less western air bush art.


It's not a deal breaker for me, after all I'll play games without any art, but it is anything exciting.
It's weird that I didn't think of FMA as urban fantasy. It totally is, I'm just so used to fantasy races.

While I mostly agree on a lot of AI art feeling very same-ey, I think a lot of the issue also stems from me. Because Syrup Town features player customization I try to avoid having the player in the shot, plus I'm just not very creative when it comes to shot composition. Add onto that the fact that I'm training an AI model off AI generated artwork and a lot of your issues may stem from more me than the AI.

Take, for example, some of the shots SlackerSavior has generated, he posts in the discord really regularly:

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While I'm trying to find one specific style, find methods of automation, and value character consistency above all else, he's mostly focused on experimenting with models and styles, and on improving individual shots and as a result they look really good compared to my syrup stuff. I'm at least a little happy with the helena and sharly dom image sets though:

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And it's hard to narrow down "creative", and using an AI-trained model def makes the faces in particular lack a lot of energy, but here are a few more I made that I think are interesting at least:

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(Darn image limits)

Basically what I'm getting at is the "long time" you mention may be shorter than you think, and it might be my own shortcomings that are holding us back. I hope the guides I'm making lead to someone else smarter than me leaping the quality forward and I can piggyback off of them to get past my own hurdles
 
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Good to hear from you, it's been a while, I hope you're well!
I'm fine, last year was crazy for me though and I didn't have much free time for games. I've got a colossal backlog now, haven't even got around to trying Syrup Town yet.
Any endings in particular? Personally, I'm not a big fan of management-type games, so the ones where you've taken over the school would be a fair bit of work for what I think is not a ton of payoff, but it could be interesting to take a break from my usual style and write something a lot more hands-off.
The one that hit me most strongly with "this could be a whole game" was Nikki's ending, where you become a masseur and enslave her mother, then networking to her friends too. I've always loved the mind control spa trope and that would be pretty similar. I imagine it would be pretty close to HU in terms of gameplay, only with the primary focus being on milfs instead of teens. Not that they wouldn't have daughters, and you could help yourself to some of the younger employees at the main girls' companies, so there would still be variety.
Aside from that off the top of my head following up Gou's ending could be interesting, a game taking place in the Noodleverse(tm)'s version of hell could be fun.
That sounds fun too, playing as an incubus/succubus conquering the town instead of a hypnotist, leaning more into the magical rather than hypnosis.
 
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The one that hit me most strongly with "this could be a whole game" was Nikki's ending, where you become a masseur and enslave her mother, then networking to her friends too. I've always loved the mind control spa trope and that would be pretty similar.
That's a trope? Where else does it show up?
 

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That's a trope? Where else does it show up?
It shows up in various mind control fiction. It's a relatively common scenario, though of course still only a small fraction of the incredibly varied genre. Something about getting a woman extremely relaxed, with her defences down, works well for mind control stories. It happens in this very game, even.
 

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Noodle over here trying to bait people to the Discord with some stuff I posted in the AI art channel. I see your game. Not that I mind, need to get more people posting there regularly.
 
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