flannan

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Guys, anyone could suggest me how the hell i can beat Noelle? Once she's out, it's impossible to defeat her, no matter how many units i can send against her. And, if possible, i would ask how to unlock/use the abilities of my units in battle, because is close to ridicoulus that i can't restore my shields or use some powerful skills, when the enemy can make my units their bitches because they use several skill each time. At least, a tutorial for the basics would've been great. This is the greatest lack of this game.
Powerful elemental abilities need you to obtain energy (orange bar) for them first. Energy is obtained from fighting - both hitting and being hit. This means that if you swarm a Vision-user with a bunch of lesser enemies, her elemental power will recharge very quickly, and she'll be able to spam her most powerful abilities.
Also, Noelle is one of the most armored and self-sufficient units in Genshin Impact. But in this game, destroying her shield with elemental attacks might help.
 

User8787

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For me using samachurl (shamans) against most of the tougher enemies helped. Dendro samachurl and then use the pillar attack (bottom left attack). You get that unit with one of the special NPCs and then using that. The NPC is somewhere in the northern part of the Mondstadt region and the girl unit needed is a Scholar. It's expensive to invest into a samachurl team, but it's worth it. I made a Dendro samachurl and then max dendro hilichurl team personally.
 

User8787

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I have to say I'm honestly a bit confused on how it's intended to corrupt a heroine. The readme states that using one of those shard things to break the vision might be a waste and torture/breeding them to lower the stats and slowly wear the girl down until she and the vision breaks and then you place her on the altar might be better way.
But lowering that by breeding (if that even works?) is super slow and getting a weird hilichurl depends a lot on luck (I played like 10 hours and never got one) and getting to liyue harbor for that special NPC would also take a while.
So what is the intended path then? Hope for some luck with the weird hilichurl? Wait until you grind/play 40 hours to get that special NPC? For me the only reasonable way is to just break the vision early by getting that abyss shard thing for 100 abyss power. Unlocks the Nycto units early, but also removes the mitachurls from the possible breeding results (but breeding the girls with samachurls can then give mitachurls again. Bit of a complicated way to those units, but better than nothing)
 

Pauloco

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I have to say I'm honestly a bit confused on how it's intended to corrupt a heroine. The readme states that using one of those shard things to break the vision might be a waste and torture/breeding them to lower the stats and slowly wear the girl down until she and the vision breaks and then you place her on the altar might be better way.
But lowering that by breeding (if that even works?) is super slow and getting a weird hilichurl depends a lot on luck (I played like 10 hours and never got one) and getting to liyue harbor for that special NPC would also take a while.
So what is the intended path then? Hope for some luck with the weird hilichurl? Wait until you grind/play 40 hours to get that special NPC? For me the only reasonable way is to just break the vision early by getting that abyss shard thing for 100 abyss power. Unlocks the Nycto units early, but also removes the mitachurls from the possible breeding results (but breeding the girls with samachurls can then give mitachurls again. Bit of a complicated way to those units, but better than nothing)
To get the girl the corrupted status you just need to put her in the altar and select to corrupt, the amount of Corruption she get for a day is based on the amount remaing that you can see at the top bar (you can sacrifice girls o rise the limit). Removing her vision drops the required amount but you can corrupt girls even if she haven't breed once.
 

dekeche

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I have to say I'm honestly a bit confused on how it's intended to corrupt a heroine. The readme states that using one of those shard things to break the vision might be a waste and torture/breeding them to lower the stats and slowly wear the girl down until she and the vision breaks and then you place her on the altar might be better way.
But lowering that by breeding (if that even works?) is super slow and getting a weird hilichurl depends a lot on luck (I played like 10 hours and never got one) and getting to liyue harbor for that special NPC would also take a while.
So what is the intended path then? Hope for some luck with the weird hilichurl? Wait until you grind/play 40 hours to get that special NPC? For me the only reasonable way is to just break the vision early by getting that abyss shard thing for 100 abyss power. Unlocks the Nycto units early, but also removes the mitachurls from the possible breeding results (but breeding the girls with samachurls can then give mitachurls again. Bit of a complicated way to those units, but better than nothing)
The simplest way to corrupt without just breaking them with the Dark Wedge, is to drag them over to the alter. Importantly - the alter can't already be charging up for a crafted item to do this. But you'll want to break them down a little first before doing so, it can be quite expensive to corrupt them using this method if they aren't at least submissive.

But what I'm wondering - is if there's a difference in stats between the various corruption methods. The guide suggests that corrupting someone at 0 resistance results in a pawn with lowered stats, so I assume that using the wedge, or breading/torturing them until they break results in this. But is there any difference between corrupting with the alter vs torture? Or, what about with the mask?
 

Arctic_Wolf

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Someone please make a guide on how to do everything. The readme file isn't particularly helpful for example how did use the altar properly and collect masks.
 

rendooo

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What a really nice game with a lot of potential. I may have a few suggestions of how to improve it.

Add the ability to equip and create equipment. What those things do is up to you.

Add mora as third resource needed for the equipement creation and upgrade. Mora can be obtained from raids or by killing (not capturing).

Add ability to build outposts. You should be able to add different things to the outpost to change its behaviour.

Add ability to build brothels on the map. This will be the main source of mora income later in the game. You should unlock this by capturing receptionis from Mondstad or Liune.
You should be able to build brothel in the outpost and send heroine there. There will be a chance that an enemy will try to recapture the heroine so there is need for guards.
The receptionist will manage all brothels.
The saying goes if there is a will there is a way. Rich perverts are keen to throw mora just to have sex with someone famous as heroines.
The amount of mora earned is dependent on the sex abilities of the heroine, the amount of elemental energy, the level of obedience, the requested service and the mental state of the heroine. Not everyone wants to have a sucubus. Some want to have obedient bitch that hates what she is forced to do.
You should be able to request multiple services at once but it will cost more than single service. A wealthy guest once a week is a good compromise.
You have already predicted the childbirth of a human as you added a placeholder so I will leave the rest of it to you.

Change how the obedience works. How I see this is that every heroine has their achievemnets. For example amount of births or children produced. The info about killed enemies on the heroine just begs to add achievement for it like "eye for an eye" when the two amounts equal. The rest I will leave it to your imagination. Obedience should not be correlated with elemental energy. The elemental energy system on itself is good but right now it restricts what is possible. What I suggest is to add a willingness or will of a heroine. The stronger the will the stronger elemental energy.
This comes in combination with brothel as to what heroine can do and what services to perform. The more achievements the heroine has the more obedient she is as this marks her milestones of acceptance.

My personal kink is to add the ability to milk and have bigger breasts. The milk will drain elemental energy of the heroine. You can obtain more milk by enchanting the heroine breasts to be bigger but the elemental drain per session will remain the same. You can do it similar to the game where you need specific items and mora to level it up.
Milk can be sold for mora or nurse the young. Lactation should be able to start due to childbirth and then diminish after some time or induced by some drugs.

Also you could add the ability for hilicurls to be in an infant stage. Depending of the quality of the milk consumed (elemental energy) the young could become stronger. It should consume 1 liter of milk per week after which the hilicurl will become an adult. The heroine will start lactating one week before birth so it can be collected.

Maybe there is a model for interpolation of frames between two key frames. This way you can add smooth animation.

I know this is a lot but hey, it is your game and you can do whatever you want. The amount of images variation will be huge but this is why you use AI for it.
 
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Pauloco

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What a really nice game with a lot of potential. I may have a few suggestions of how to improve it.

Add the ability to equip and create equipment. What those things do is up to you.

Add mora as third resource needed for the equipement creation and upgrade. Mora can be obtained from raids or by killing (not capturing).

Add ability to build outposts. You should be able to add different things to the outpost to change its behaviour.

Add ability to build brothels on the map. This will be the main source of mora income later in the game. You should unlock this by capturing receptionis from Mondstad or Liune.
You should be able to build brothel in the outpost and send heroine there. There will be a chance that an enemy will try to recapture the heroine so there is need for guards.
The receptionist will manage all brothels.
The saying goes if there is a will there is a way. Rich perverts are keen to throw mora just to have sex with someone famous as heroines.
The amount of mora earned is dependent on the sex abilities of the heroine, the amount of elemental energy, the level of obedience, the requested service and the mental state of the heroine. Not everyone wants to have a sucubus. Some want to have obedient bitch that hates what she is forced to do.
You should be able to request multiple services at once but it will cost more than single service. A wealthy guest once a week is a good compromise.
You have already predicted the childbirth of a human as you added a placeholder so I will leave the rest of it to you.

Change how the obedience works. How I see this is that every heroine has their achievemnets. For example amount of births or children produced. The info about killed enemies on the heroine just begs to add achievement for it like "eye for an eye" when the two amounts equal. The rest I will leave it to your imagination. Obedience should not be correlated with elemental energy. The elemental energy system on itself is good but right now it restricts what is possible. What I suggest is to add a willingness or will of a heroine. The stronger the will the stronger elemental energy.
This comes in combination with brothel as to what heroine can do and what services to perform. The more achievements the heroine has the more obedient she is as this marks her milestones of acceptance.

My personal kink is to add the ability to milk and have bigger breasts. The milk will drain elemental energy of the heroine. You can obtain more milk by enchanting the heroine breasts to be bigger but the elemental drain per session will remain the same. You can do it similar to the game where you need specific items and mora to level it up.
Milk can be sold for mora or nurse the young. Lactation should be able to start due to childbirth and then diminish after some time or induced by some drugs.

Also you could add the ability for hilicurls to be in an infant stage. Depending of the quality of the milk consumed (elemental energy) the young could become stronger. It should consume 1 liter of milk per week after which the hilicurl will become an adult. The heroine will start lactating one week before birth so it can be collected.

Maybe there is a model for interpolation of frames between two key frames. This way you can add smooth animation.

I know this is a lot but hey, it is your game and you can do whatever you want. The amount of images variation will be huge but this is why you use AI for it.
Mora doens't make sense as a currency cause we already have one used to build things, and brothel doesn't work in this game cause the Ideia of it is conquer everything just like in goblins burrow so there is no space for negotiations from other races. As means to make your units stronger he said he would add dungeons so probably we will gain status after completing it, but the way you did it would mean that every mob would have a different stat so would be hell for him to rework how the game works now to add a 1 by 1 stats. While I agree that in begining the elemental resistence can be bothersome (Barbara broke after 2 rounds) it makes sense since it is your resistence to corruption if you lost it you are broken and can easily be corrupted.
 

flannan

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SO... I clicked on everything but nothing works what should i do when i win?

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Either right-click on the picture, or click on the arrow at the top-right.

Someone please make a guide on how to do everything. The readme file isn't particularly helpful for example how did use the altar properly and collect masks.
I'd write one, but I still don't understand the game well enough. But I suppose I should at least share what I know.
 
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T4t0rt

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Ok, so, i don't have to raise threath until i'll get elementals. Got it. But still some thinghs unclear:

-How i can use the elemental ability once it's charged;
-How i can create advanced outposts;
-How i can check my level threat;
-How far i can reach in territory without rising the level threat;

Any hint is more than welcome.
 

Pauloco

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Ok, so, i don't have to raise threath until i'll get elementals. Got it. But still some thinghs unclear:

-How i can use the elemental ability once it's charged;
-How i can create advanced outposts;
-How i can check my level threat;
-How far i can reach in territory without rising the level threat;

Any hint is more than welcome.
-Once charge you can click on then it is the element icon;
-Conquer a village and get catherine (defeat barbara);
-The bar on the left while in the map;
-The bar descreases after a week.

*Extra tip there is Camps on the map where the enemy will not attack so you can leave the minimum amount of troops and focus on others.
 

T4t0rt

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-Once charge you can click on then it is the element icon;
-Conquer a village and get catherine (defeat barbara);
-The bar on the left while in the map;
-The bar descreases after a week.

*Extra tip there is Camps on the map where the enemy will not attack so you can leave the minimum amount of troops and focus on others.
So i have to do:
-One week attack and one week reinforcing;
-Position of the camp?
 

dbomb

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Sorry to say it, but Noelle is almost close to cheating: her barrier is almost impossible to be destroyed, and her initiave is too high. And the rate of appearing of the special npcs for unlock new skills for my units is incredibly low.
Do you have any elemental hillichurls, leaders (especially noctyl ones like mitachurl or samachurl or even regular hillichurl nocytls who can lead elemental hillichurls), or corrupted girls? Fischl and elemental crossbow dudes have enough damage to take out Noelle.

Ok, so I should be able to survive if I update?
Probably. If you have 5 AP unspent you can just setup meatshield teams to tank her rampage.
 

Theofrad

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Powerful elemental abilities need you to obtain energy (orange bar) for them first. Energy is obtained from fighting - both hitting and being hit. This means that if you swarm a Vision-user with a bunch of lesser enemies, her elemental power will recharge very quickly, and she'll be able to spam her most powerful abilities.
Also, Noelle is one of the most armored and self-sufficient units in Genshin Impact. But in this game, destroying her shield with elemental attacks might help.
Well actually being hit won't change any energy unless there is an unknown bug. Usually if you see being hit charges energy, this is because the charge-energy function doesn't update the energy bar, but being hit will update the icon and all bars. It is a minor bug.
It turns out that for me it is even harder to writing a guidance than making the game. So I would be appreciate if you can write a guidance of this game. If you want to know the algorithm behind anything, just ask me.
 
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Theofrad

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What a really nice game with a lot of potential. I may have a few suggestions of how to improve it.

Add the ability to equip and create equipment. What those things do is up to you.

Add mora as third resource needed for the equipement creation and upgrade. Mora can be obtained from raids or by killing (not capturing).

Add ability to build outposts. You should be able to add different things to the outpost to change its behaviour.

Add ability to build brothels on the map. This will be the main source of mora income later in the game. You should unlock this by capturing receptionis from Mondstad or Liune.
You should be able to build brothel in the outpost and send heroine there. There will be a chance that an enemy will try to recapture the heroine so there is need for guards.
The receptionist will manage all brothels.
The saying goes if there is a will there is a way. Rich perverts are keen to throw mora just to have sex with someone famous as heroines.
The amount of mora earned is dependent on the sex abilities of the heroine, the amount of elemental energy, the level of obedience, the requested service and the mental state of the heroine. Not everyone wants to have a sucubus. Some want to have obedient bitch that hates what she is forced to do.
You should be able to request multiple services at once but it will cost more than single service. A wealthy guest once a week is a good compromise.
You have already predicted the childbirth of a human as you added a placeholder so I will leave the rest of it to you.

Change how the obedience works. How I see this is that every heroine has their achievemnets. For example amount of births or children produced. The info about killed enemies on the heroine just begs to add achievement for it like "eye for an eye" when the two amounts equal. The rest I will leave it to your imagination. Obedience should not be correlated with elemental energy. The elemental energy system on itself is good but right now it restricts what is possible. What I suggest is to add a willingness or will of a heroine. The stronger the will the stronger elemental energy.
This comes in combination with brothel as to what heroine can do and what services to perform. The more achievements the heroine has the more obedient she is as this marks her milestones of acceptance.

My personal kink is to add the ability to milk and have bigger breasts. The milk will drain elemental energy of the heroine. You can obtain more milk by enchanting the heroine breasts to be bigger but the elemental drain per session will remain the same. You can do it similar to the game where you need specific items and mora to level it up.
Milk can be sold for mora or nurse the young. Lactation should be able to start due to childbirth and then diminish after some time or induced by some drugs.

Also you could add the ability for hilicurls to be in an infant stage. Depending of the quality of the milk consumed (elemental energy) the young could become stronger. It should consume 1 liter of milk per week after which the hilicurl will become an adult. The heroine will start lactating one week before birth so it can be collected.

Maybe there is a model for interpolation of frames between two key frames. This way you can add smooth animation.

I know this is a lot but hey, it is your game and you can do whatever you want. The amount of images variation will be huge but this is why you use AI for it.
Thank you for the suggestions.

Actually I have considered mora and you can find them in "golden house", a hidden place. And in my plan, mora was related to a brothel, which will be built after you beat the ship outside Liyue Harbor. There are several reasons why this system has not been implemented. First, I don't know how to spend mora. If it is to exchange ore and food it looks redundant. Second, just as Pauloco mentioned a brothel seems weird in this game. This also ruled out the idea of hiring human units like kaigari. Third, I haven't found a way to create genshin-style human male CG. They look too modern to me and I think that's weird.

As for outpost, I will allow constructing defensive buildings once I finish the code for battle terrain.

Cooking will be added in the future and maybe lactation.

Blacksmith will also be added in the future. This may allow you to craft weapons or just upgrade all hilichurls' skills. I haven't decide it yet because the choosing weapons would make the UI even more incomprehensible...

Diversifying the way of obedience is a good idea but this will need lots of in-game text work so it is not considerable now. Or you need to guess the requirement of each girl, which would be a disaster.

I don't want each hilichurl to have it's own attack and defence value, because a lot of code needs to be changed if so. And this will also make the team formation UI more incomprehensible.

I tried several AI interpolation models but somehow none of them worked for pony model.
 
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But what I'm wondering - is if there's a difference in stats between the various corruption methods. The guide suggests that corrupting someone at 0 resistance results in a pawn with lowered stats, so I assume that using the wedge, or breading/torturing them until they break results in this. But is there any difference between corrupting with the alter vs torture? Or, what about with the mask?
The only difference is whether the vision (or core) has broken or not before corruption. If the vision has been broken, it can be fixed but will provide less element inheritance than if it is converted to dark vision directly through alter or chain torture. This means less chance to get powerful nycto offsprings, and less attack in battle.
 
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