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Chloe is 'owned' by Dominique (think Junko) and is also be groomed to be more than she is. My own character sheet explains relations of every character in the game better.
If you're right, then I have a problem with her. Actually, with POD W2, I wanted to avoid what happened with the MC's POD. It's completely torn apart and hasn't been a unit for a long time.
 

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If you're right, then I have a problem with her. Actually, with POD W2, I wanted to avoid what happened with the MC's POD. It's completely torn apart and hasn't been a unit for a long time.
When it comes to KG, I'm very rarely wrong ;)

You can't avoid anything to do with Pod W2...it's your pod to manage (the best you can with external influences). Who you favour in the pod, well that's a different question.
 

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When it comes to KG, I'm very rarely wrong ;)

You can't avoid anything to do with Pod W2...it's your pod to manage (the best you can with external influences). Who you favour in the pod, well that's a different question.
Okay, thank you. Then I'll distrust her just as much as I distrust her mistress.
 

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Is funny you say that....out of all the people there, Dominique is probably one of the straightest arrows and most trustworthy. (which isn't a high bar admittedly lol)....
I wouldn’t say she’s the straightest of arrows, in the sub path anyways… she tends to downplay/hides her extreme sadistic nature and acts like the most straightest arrows… don’t get me wrong she’s more.. trustworthy if your on her side specifically and her goals but she still has that dark impulse in which she tries not to show... unless you anger her or someone angers her to where her temper flares... Even during the Red Room punishment, when Dominque leaves after being done with Kane, Delilah mentions how she doesn't like Dominique for how she "Pretends to be something she's not" and how she tries to hide her sadistic nature... Delilah in fact likes Juliette more because of how honest Juliette is when it comes to who she is and how she portrays herself
 

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I wouldn’t say she’s the straightest of arrows, in the sub path anyways… she tends to downplay/hides her extreme sadistic nature and acts like the most straightest arrows… don’t get me wrong she’s more.. trustworthy if your on her side specifically and her goals but she still has that dark impulse in which she tries not to show... unless you anger her or someone angers her to where her temper flares... Even during the Red Room punishment, when Dominque leaves after being done with Kane, Delilah mentions how she doesn't like Dominique for how she "Pretends to be something she's not" and how she tries to hide her sadistic nature... Delilah in fact likes Juliette more because of how honest Juliette is when it comes to who she is and how she portrays herself
He said he didn't trust her. That's from a players perspective, and from that perspective, I stand by what I said. Unlike every other sister, she is not actively lying to you (Olivia and Veronica), nor is she actively withholding information from you (Olivia, Alessa, Veronica), nor is she actively trying to sabotage you (Alessa, Jules and possibly Olivia) or play games with you (Alessa, Jules)...should I continue?

This coincidentally, stands for both routes but especially on the DomPath (which is what he is playing so nothing to do with the SubPath).
 
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He said he didn't trust her. That's from a players perspective, and from that perspective, I stand by what I said. Unlike every other sister, she is not actively lying to you, nor is she actively withholding information from you, nor is she actively trying to sabotage you or play games with you.

This coincidentally, stands for both routes but especially on the DomPath (which is what he is playing so nothing to do with the SubPath).
No matter what she still has her cruel nature, such as everything involving Amara, but if you don't meet her criteria she hides this from you and pretends to be more business like. Whether its actively against you or not I'd say that's deceptive. The other sisters (minus maybe Alessandra) wear who they are on their sleeve.
 
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No matter what she still has her cruel nature, such as everything involving Amara, but if you don't meet her criteria she hides this from you and pretends to be more business like. Whether its actively against you or not I'd say that's deceptive. The other sisters (minus maybe Alessandra) wear who they are on their sleeve.
Her cruel streak (which everyone there has might I remind you and they all hide it well bar a couple of exceptions) has absolutely nothing to do with her being trustworthy to you.

I'll add, again, knowing all the paths and nuances, she is still the straightest arrow shooter on the island, especially when it comes to Kane. Even our beloved red haired angel (as strongly suggested/hinted at by Tess) will throw us to the wolves to save her ass. Well, Dominique is one of the wolves...and she still straight with us. Unlike every other sister.
 
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Her cruel streak (which everyone there has might I remind you and they all hide it well bar a couple of exceptions) has absolutely nothing to do with her being trustworthy to you.

I'll add, again, knowing all the paths and nuances, she is still the straightest arrow shooter on the island, especially when it comes to Kane. Even our beloved red haired angel (as strongly suggested/hinted at by Tess) will throw us to the wolves to save her ass. Well, Dominique is one of the wolves...and she still straight with us. Unlike every other sister.
Juliette is the straightest arrow. She hides absolutely nothing from Kane. In fairness though you are right that she at times works against you , or at least refuses to help you.

Not just her nature, Dominique hides Cole from everyone because its in her interest to do so. Something I'm sure Kane would like to know. So no not the straightest arrow.
 
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He said he didn't trust her. That's from a players perspective, and from that perspective, I stand by what I said. Unlike every other sister, she is not actively lying to you (Olivia and Veronica), nor is she actively withholding information from you (Olivia, Alessa, Veronica), nor is she actively trying to sabotage you (Alessa, Jules and possibly Olivia) or play games with you (Alessa, Jules)...should I continue?

This coincidentally, stands for both routes but especially on the DomPath (which is what he is playing so nothing to do with the SubPath).
I’m not discounting that she’s trustworthy like I said before, it’s the nature of who she is… which isn’t as straightforward of a character… unlike most characters, she’s actively trying to portray herself one way to others than what she shows herself specifically towards Kane…

And ofc she is actively holding information/which can pretty much be lying to Kane.. the Existence of his father… furthermore, when Cole cut off coms to Dominique, she took out her anger out on sub Kane , because she can’t get the father… so what for she do? She can punish his son… obv it’s from the sub pov but the conditions are kinda f up that she related her anger towards Kane.. how does this relate? Because this is the first time for sub Kane how expressively sadistic she’s been towards Kane… (once again… read what Delilah says…) and if you wanna be honest, Juliette is the straightest arrow for being how brutally honest with how true she is to what she is… she accepts herself and is outwardly putting herself out there of who she is…

She’s also is playing games with Kane with if you accept Her favor or not, she might sabotage you if you don’t do whatever that favor is… Should I continue? Cuz clearly me and The_Man_With_No_Name can agree on this
 
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Cuz clearly me and The_Man_With_No_Name can agree on this
I don't know. We don't disagree all the time. We mostly disagree on preferences. But then again my preferences are all over the place. Though it is interesting since Mav and I agree more often than not. . Silver, I mentioned it before but Is Anais making it a tradition for the girl given everything to be named Olivia.:ROFLMAO: Or working the "I have the same name and have brown hair and blue eyes like her too people expect a lot from me."
 
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Juliette is the straightest arrow. She hides absolutely nothing from Kane. In fairness though you are right that she at times works against you , or at least refuses to help you.

Not just her nature, Dominique hides Cole from everyone because its in her interest to do so. Something I'm sure Kane would like to know. So no not the straightest arrow.
Is that the best you have? Really?

While we are under the impression, I don't recall it is ever explicitly stated (happy to be corrected)..in game, that Dom knows Cole is Kanes father. The only person 'at the time' who knew, was Alexander, Callista and Elana. We do not yet know exactly how old Dominique was when Veronica and Olivia were born so difficult to ascertain or know if she found out before others). On the SecretSub path...Stefan tells Kane that all the sisters know that Cole is his father (but this is only in 8.2).

Now, bear in mind, this is largely useless and irelevant information to Kane, he's never met him, doesn't know who he is....or anything else and has never even heard the name before. So all you have is, Dominique is keeping the fact he is alive secret. Even if she told Kane...what? However, hehehe, Olivia, Veronica, Alessandra, Yvette (and Astrid though we'll not count her at the moment) and others all know Calista...is alive and well. His own godamn mother. That's just one secret (not even going to bother mentioning every single point I brought up before and who does them). I'll also just throw in that Veronica kept steralising Kane not only from him, but everyone else.

So in reality, even Dominique is more honest to Kane than his own damn mother is.....as for Jules being who she is, have I not already stated/said that cruelty has nothing to do with trustworthyness towards Kane? All the sisters bar Olivia (and nearly all the damn staff) are in the same boat here so you can't use that as a positive for her.
 
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Is that the best you have? Really?

While we are under the impression, I don't recall it is ever explicitly stated (happy to be corrected)..in game, that Dom knows Cole is Kanes father. The only person 'at the time' who knew, was Alexander, Callista and Elana. We do not yet know exactly how old Dominique was when Veronica and Olivia were born. On the SecretSub path...Stefan tells Kane that all the sisters know that Cole is his father.

NOw, bear in mind, this is largely useless and irelvant information to Kane, he's never met him, doesn't know who he is....or anything else. So all you have is, Dominique is keeping the fact he is alive secret. Even if she told Kane...what? However, hehehe, Olicia, Veronica, Alessandra, Yvette (and Astrid though we'll not count her at the moment) all know Calista...is alive and well. His own godamn mother.

So in reality, even Dominique is more honest to Kane than his own damn mother is.....as for Jules being who she is, have I not already stated/said that cruelty has nothing to do with trustworthyness towards Kane? All the sisters bar Olivia (and nearly all the damn staff) are in the same boat here.
She knows he is a DeKock. They all know. I'm sure they don't think Cynthia and Calista conceived him somehow. I don't even know what your getting at in your first bit. Why does it matter if we are told early on that Dom knows? She knows. The whole time.
During Sub scenes she even almost accidently let it slip.

And its not just hiding Cole from Kane, because telling him would break the rules of the Gambit, she hides it from EVERYONE. Even Veronica her science project partner. Not trustworthy.

Again, what is Juliette's deception that makes her less trustworthy than Dominique?
 

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she hides it from EVERYONE.
And again, what has her keeping secrets from other people got to do with her trustworthyness towards Kane? Everyone is keeping secrets from each other (like btw Kane, your mum didn't die in a helicopter crash, she faked her death and has been keeping shit from you for the last 21 years). So if everyone is doing the same shit...you can't use that as a negative against her alone.

I'll ask again..at this point, knowing his father is alive does what for him exactly? Kane knows literally nothing about the man. I'll also remind you, at this point, he doesn't even know his father is alive, all he knows is his name because Callista has never said jack shit about who is father is.
 
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And again, what has her keeping secrets from other people got to do with Kane? Everyone is keeping secrets from each other.
She is less trustworthy than Juliette therefore not the straightest arrow. Yes Juliette is less advantageous to Kane, but she is more trustworthy. I will ask again, where is her deception outside of rules of the Gambit where she has to lie? Name one. Dominique hides her nature and hides a rival family member from her family just to start.
 

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She is less trustworthy than Juliette therefore not the straightest arrow. Yes Juliette is less advantageous to Kane, but she is more trustworthy. I will ask again, where is her deception outside of rules of the Gambit where she has to lie? Name one. Dominique hides her nature and hides a rival family member from her family just to start.
FFS...I'm sure you're doing it on purpose:
Dominique is probably one of the straightest arrows and most trustworthy. (which isn't a high bar admittedly lol)
she is not actively lying to you (Olivia and Veronica), nor is she actively withholding information from you (Olivia, Alessa, Veronica), nor is she actively trying to sabotage you (Alessa, Jules and possibly Olivia) or play games with you (Alessa, Jules)...should I continue?
Did I state Dominique IS the straightest? Did I? Did I state Jules lies? Read again what I wrote. And if you need me to explain exactly what I highlighted...I'll stick my head in the microwave, or maybe I won't, some users here might actually like that.

I'm done with this, pointless continuing.
 
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I don't know. We don't disagree all the time. We mostly disagree on preferences. But then again my preferences are all over the place. Though it is interesting since Mav and I agree more often than not. . Silver, I mentioned it before but Is Anais making it a tradition for the girl given everything to be named Olivia.:ROFLMAO: Or working the "I have the same name and have brown hair and blue eyes like her too people expect a lot from me."
No but you can expect some characters to have green eyes and red hair heh
 
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FFS...I'm sure you're doing it on purpose:

Did I state Jules lies? Read again what I wrote.
Is funny you say that....out of all the people there, Dominique is probably one of the straightest arrows and most trustworthy. (which isn't a high bar admittedly lol)....
You: Dom Straightest arrow.
Me: Juliette is straighter than Dom.
You: NO.
Me: Why not?

You: Rage quit.
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To be fair you did say ONE of the straightest so I guess we have no dispute.
 
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