aseknospam

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Yeah it's humiliating you need to sacrifice all (game contents) just for his unequal term approval.
  1. Logan himself is not a Virgin
  2. You need to be a Virgin to initiate the whole chain of event
  3. You dont even hv the chance to be "Loyal to him", if you had sex before the virgin check, before you know him
  4. He's not the first NPC you meet in the game, and the virgin check is way beyond the starting point.
  5. Yes he has unique scenes for virgins
  6. How much contents in this route is irrelevant, as long as Hyao continue to add more. It becomes a problem when it's no longer a one-off, and remain a problem until Hyao add so much contents in that warrants a whole unique play-through (Then again, scope creep)
Edit: That reminds me, If it's only a remark that based on your local Fame, then it's a different story.
Or just a check if you had sex with others between your interact with Logan.
Since when being interested only in one character / person is considered as humiliation? What are odd standarts are these?
The whole point of the route is not Virginity itself, cuz after you have a sex scene with him you are not a virgin anymore, so its not main point of the route for some reason you realy put a big emphasis on it when its not main point, it a specific content that is specificaly for people who want to limit themself and they get something in return, if you dont want that then noone is forcing you to do it, it doesnt interfere with anything else that is available, just cuz you dont find it appealing for you cuz you have to limit yourself doesnt mean there arent people who like it more, it just one of the preferences, cuz technicaly everyone can say same points about content they dont like or find offencive, like if someone dont like Domination / Humiliation ( which include Gunnar, Maul, Sabal ) it doesnt mean that this content shouldnt exist, people just have a choice to not interact with it at all
And no he doesnt have specificaly unique interactions in that route, only altered text of same interaction you get in other route, literary Hyao confirmed it, it just different flavor text and nothing more special to it
 

UghSoAnnoying

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Did you guys having problem to install the apk? Because I had an issue it doesn't installed

Edit: it works I uninstalled the app and reinstalled the new one, thank god I backup my save files
I'm still struggling I can't even download it bcuz of the inf amount of pop-ups-
 

Kessel Gilmore

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Mar 5, 2020
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It would be counterproductive to make Groth strictly straight, the game already showcases straight/gay/bi potions, plus Love Potions and Feminine Potions. On top of that, that ship has already sailed, we've camped and bonded with him, plus fight along side him, we've seen him naked, we've seen him peeing, even Nameless knows MC is attracted to him. It would be pointless.

I would understand if Hyao makes it harder for male characters to romance Groth. In fact he could even make it kink related. I know a lot of guys who love chasing straight dudes.

Besides, if his portrait appears in the relationship Menu, he should be either dateable or at least fuckable.
 

nackedsnake

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Jan 29, 2019
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It would be counterproductive to make Groth strictly straight, the game already showcases straight/gay/bi potions, plus Love Potions and Feminine Potions. On top of that, that ship has already sailed, we've camped and bonded with him, plus fight along side him, we've seen him naked, we've seen him peeing, even Nameless knows MC is attracted to him. It would be pointless.

I would understand if Hyao makes it harder for male characters to romance Groth. In fact he could even make it kink related. I know a lot of guys who love chasing straight dudes.

Besides, if his portrait appears in the relationship Menu, he should be either dateable or at least fuckable.
The problem is he never gave a "Fuckable" vibe to Male MC ever.
The "ship" does Not sail, That's what "Brotherhood" looks like, "Bond" doesn't equal to "Sex".
Due to how he's written so far, It'll be a mess either way if Hyao makes him sexable or gives him NPC sex scene at some point. (BTW, There are quite some NPCs in the relationship Menu you can't fuck)

"Straight Chasing" or "Corruption / Mind Control" are fun ideas, But LD doesn't promote this kind of kinks, they are somewhat against the atmosphere LD is building - Unless it's reserved for the long forgotten Corrupted Lizard Route.
....IMO "Straight Chasing" is a special Kink that only belongs to games where it's the main theme.

Hence why "All tease No deeds" is a much more approachable angle, cuz that doesn't rule out anything.
And when Groth Fall for you, is not due to your gender, but your personality. He's just not sex-craze like everyone else.
 

sc79

Newbie
Aug 27, 2019
29
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Here you go.

PART 1: HYAO AND VIRILE CONTENT

Northcrest

Northcrest Gate:

• Event: Goddess in shining armor (Req: Gold Guard with Everett seen, not naked )



Bareshade

Sawmill:

• Conversation: Your own stand (Req: Fair finished, WW event done or bLogan, Logan like 50+)

• Conversation: Special reward (Req: Max points in Axe Throwing, 2+ Logan hearts)

Fair:

• Attractions: Axe throw (Req: 'Your own stand' talk done)



Deep Jungle

Sabal Encounter:

• Escape (New dialog after being caught 10+ times, No Hate heart)



Iron Blood Village

Battlegrounds:

• Wednesday daytime event (Visit on Wednesday to be told how to join in. You can also just watch.)

• Wednesday competition: Enter (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job finished, Only 'Subligar' equipment is equipped)

Tanner:

• Job: Trial (Req: Seen Battlegrounds Wednesday daytime event scene)



! You can only pick one trial witness. If you want to see all the options, make a save before making a choice !

Groth's tent:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

Korg's tent:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

Woulbauk pens:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

Maul's tent:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

• Entrance: Wednesday daytime



Explore the village:

• Tanner vs Tamer (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job finished, daytime)



Green Halloween:

• Watch Wednesday competition at the Battlegrounds (Req: Non-canon events turned on, Participated in competition at least one time) (Extra variants if Korg and/or Maul have joined the competition)



Bloody Forest

Razor Bear Encounter:

• New Enemy

Explore

• New resources to gather (No crafts for them yet)



PART 2: VISUAL/AUDIO ASPECTS

StanG's addition:

• Maul vs Drak CG

• Maul vs Korg CG

• Maul vs Groth CG

• Groth vs Korg CG

• Groth and Korg Sprites (Updates and new gear)

• Lady Tess Sprite

Narram's addition:

• Razor Bear

Passerby's addition:

• Maul Sprite (New gear)

• Brugo Sprite

Burb’s additions:

• New Icons: Candied Fruit, Sweet Treat, Helmet, Spectral Shoes, Spiked Knuckles, Knife, Silver Knife, Assassin's Blade, Antique Blade, Diabosite/Emerine/Glafire Arrows, Electric Bolts, Resin, Bag of Berries, Dramire Berries, Dramire Roots, Throwing Axe

• Dust Bowl Cavern Background
New Everett content? I'm in! Anyone has that new Everett CG? :) Thanks in advance!
 
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Kessel Gilmore

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The "ship" does Not sail, That's what "Brotherhood" looks like, "Bond" doesn't equal to "Sex".
Again, you can spy him while he's peeing and you can watch him sleep naked. On top of that the squid knows you want to fuck Groth. He's also one of the many characters the squid fucks you as in his weird poly sex scene. Also you can see him wearing the ''special'' orc underwear and him adjusting his junk in front of you. Dude, come on, that's not brotherhood, that's teasing. Also, he has official naked art that could easily be reusable.

(BTW, There are quite some NPCs in the relationship Menu you can't fuck)
Currently there are more than 40 characters in the relationship log and you can fuck somehow 30 of them, the only characters you cannot fuck are either works in progress that you can fuck in the future or aren't developed yet. The only character that I don't think will ever be dateable is Rose, and who knows.


"Straight Chasing" or "Corruption / Mind Control" are fun ideas, But LD doesn't promote this kind of kinks, they are somewhat against the atmosphere LD is building
So, the Love Potions that you can give to several characters and fuck them without their consent aren't against the atmosphere? You can literally roofie Bernard, Korg, Grushk, plus throw Lust Potions at enemies to make them want to fuck you instead of fight you. Also, this is a game that literally has zoophilia and rape at plenty but you draw the line at straight chasing?

Hence why "All tease No deeds" is a much more approachable angle, cuz that doesn't rule out anything.
And when Groth Fall for you, is not due to your gender, but your personality. He's just not sex-craze like everyone else.
Hey, I'm all for letting Hyao cook at his own pace, it would be great if you can build something with a character at a slow pace. But again, this is a porn game, not Stardew Valley. Some people will appreciate the slow burn, some people will think it's a waste of time, kinda like Virgin Logan playthroughs.

Honestly I think there's plenty of orc content already in the game but hey, a lot of people liked Groth's friendly nature. And just like you said he isn't sex-crazy like everyone else which makes him kinda special. It would be a wasted opportunity not to monetize that.
And again, making a well-liked character exclusively straight in a game that focuses in bara male content and most of the players and the author himself are male as well, doesn't really add up. That could've done with Logan who has more reasons to be strictly straight.
 

Sant3224

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is there a way to download android safe files? or at least transfer them from my old to my new phone?
I wish, android has been a bitch for not letting us access the Data folder of the phones to save-edit or move/copy files.
It has been like that since Android 11
 
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ghxstb3yond

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Did they have to remove the beast horny sprites from the game bc of patreon? Or am I just encountering a Really weird bug with the latest versions...
 

nackedsnake

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Again, you can spy him while he's peeing and you can watch him sleep naked. On top of that the squid knows you want to fuck Groth. He's also one of the many characters the squid fucks you as in his weird poly sex scene. Also you can see him wearing the ''special'' orc underwear and him adjusting his junk in front of you. Dude, come on, that's not brotherhood, that's teasing. Also, he has official naked art that could easily be reusable.



Currently there are more than 40 characters in the relationship log and you can fuck somehow 30 of them, the only characters you cannot fuck are either works in progress that you can fuck in the future or aren't developed yet. The only character that I don't think will ever be dateable is Rose, and who knows.




So, the Love Potions that you can give to several characters and fuck them without their consent aren't against the atmosphere? You can literally roofie Bernard, Korg, Grushk, plus throw Lust Potions at enemies to make them want to fuck you instead of fight you. Also, this is a game that literally has zoophilia and rape at plenty but you draw the line at straight chasing?



Hey, I'm all for letting Hyao cook at his own pace, it would be great if you can build something with a character at a slow pace. But again, this is a porn game, not Stardew Valley. Some people will appreciate the slow burn, some people will think it's a waste of time, kinda like Virgin Logan playthroughs.

Honestly I think there's plenty of orc content already in the game but hey, a lot of people liked Groth's friendly nature. And just like you said he isn't sex-crazy like everyone else which makes him kinda special. It would be a wasted opportunity not to monetize that.
And again, making a well-liked character exclusively straight in a game that focuses in bara male content and most of the players and the author himself are male as well, doesn't really add up. That could've done with Logan who has more reasons to be strictly straight.
You can "Ship" whatever you want. But seeing your comrade's Dick and suddenly you are lovers?
Assuming you are male, Do you not have male friends? If you are Female, then I tell you It's super normal to see your straight bro's Dick or fuck around.

If you can't tell the difference between "Non-con Gay sex in a gay porn game" and "Straight Chasing", then I hv nothing more to say. (Hint: Sex ≠ Relationship)
BTW all the Love potion Sex are pure fan service, which has nothing in the say at all

I don't even know what you are arguing about. I said it'll be a waste if they write Groth as straight, even worth if it's FMC Exclusive.
You either didn't understand what I said, or Just a guy like to argue for the sake of arguing.
Also, Being a Porn Game doesn't mean everything in it MUST has to do with sex.

But I'm wasting my breath, people can't understand nuance nor game development in a porn game thread, no surprise.
Guess I'm too bored recently.

Cant see the female bandit.. Am i doing something wrong or?
Nah this is a gay focused game and they haven't given female bandit arts yet.
 
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Kessel Gilmore

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You can "Ship" whatever you want. But seeing your comrade's Dick and suddenly you are lovers?
Assuming you are male, Do you not have male friends? If you are Female, then I tell you It's super normal to see your straight bro's Dick or fuck around.
I'm a gay man and I think you are cukoo for cocoa puffs. I have straight male friends and I can assure you I've never seen any of them naked nor they have seen me naked. Your experiences aren't universal. I think going after straight men is all fun in videogames but I wouldn't even consider it in real life, not my cup of tea. Also I don't want to be that guy but if you say you're straight and you fool around with other men, you're not really straight. But following your logic, does that means Groth is fair game? I mean, whats a blowjob between friends, am I right?

If you can't tell the difference between "Non-con Gay sex in a gay porn game" and "Straight Chasing", then I hv nothing more to say. (Hint: Sex ≠ Relationship)
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. But please, do me a favor and don't say anything else. I'm starting to think you take things WAYYYYY to seriously. Also, why do you keep bringing relationships, all I was saying is that Groth should be a fuckeable option like any other character unless Hyao wants to make it an exclusive thing like the Virgin Logan route or Nauxus side story.

I don't even know what you are arguing about. I said it'll be a waste if they write Groth as straight, even worth if it's FMC Exclusive.
And that's exactly what I'm also saying, which it's what I said in my initial comment, it would be pointless to make him straight. We share the same opinion. You're the one who think he doesn't give you fuckeable vibes and keeps talking about ''bond'' and ''brotherhood'' or whatever.

You either didn't understand what I said, or Just a guy like to argue for the sake of arguing.
No, I don't understand you and honestly I don't think things should be that complicated. Porn game - character hot - fans like character - character should be game. See how easy that was? Also I hate arguing, I just think it would be rude not to answer. Don't worry, lesson learned.

Also, Being a Porn Game doesn't mean everything in it MUST has to do with sex.
Debatable. Just look how well received the whole Black Wolf side story was. And why most of the people didn't like it? Too much words and not enough action. Not everything should be straight up porn since you need a story to make everything flow, but the porn will always be appreciated and should be prioritized.

But I'm wasting my breath, people can't understand nuance nor game development in a porn game thread, no surprise.
Guess I'm too bored recently.
Yeah I think you shouldn't be using words like nuance or game development in something designed to goon. It's not that deep.

But let me explain my opinion which it's just that, an opinion, as clear as possible: I think the character Groth should be an optional sexual partner in the future, making him exclusively attracted to female MCs would not sit well with most of the fans who play as male MCs which are the immense majority. Plus, most characters in the game are meant to be MC-sexuals, technically bi. Even Vicoria, who prefers male characters over female, doesn't say no to a female MC. You can eat Blake's ass as a woman and give him a Love Potion even though he still prefers men. Also Groth hasn't been confirmed as straight, he just favors female MCs and NPCs and even then it's not as a sexual approach. This could mean nothing, but it could be fun to make it harder to male MCs to fuck him, and even add some straight chasing bicurious kink to it if they like. It's not necessary nor guaranteed, I just think it could be fun. And let's hope it's not a route similar to Virgin Logan because that route sucks and we already have one of those to waste out time. Although it's hinted Groth's orc clan is into monogamous pairs so Hyao can play with that or throw it out the window. Hell, he could even become a sexual partner but then end up paired up with Rose, kinda like Everett and Feliar.
 
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