aseknospam

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how much content in this game ? there is very few screenshots
If you wanna experince all I think you wouldnt be able to finish all stuff in a week ( even longer if you read all and doing all variants of the moments like all versions of the bottom, top and etc. ), there is alot stuff
 

nackedsnake

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There is no point in comparison since people will chose the art style that they prefer more, since they judge with bias, and will chose the one that are lesser in quality of it but more prefferable in style, despite the style may be not the same, but there are slight similarities, and I belive the current partnership are 100% better, since when we had 4 cgs added to the game in one patch, I dont think that ever happened xD
Ofc it would have been better if all the old assets have been replaced but sadly its to late for that since alot stuff already has been done, but people either will grow overtime and enjoy the new stuff more since there would be more of it, or just move on and play something else since its pointless expecting it to be same as it was, for some it will be better for some it will be worse, there is no way to satisfy all
It is. That's why My initial comparison is NOT about "Which one is better", but "how much work is done in the similar time-frame."
(Also if you are really on it, it's not just "Different art-style bias", ZoroJ's arts are objectively better)

And there's no denying the current partnership is much better, just like I said.
In fact it's a "Live and Learn" situation where Hyao gained so much experience over the years, knows much better how to handle the project, overcoming hardship.
(If what the other said is true, ZoroJ never committed to LD, so his leaving is to be expected)

Thing is, you can not stop people from comparing, especially ZoroJ fans. It just doesn't matter (to anyone else).
Also I don't think they need to replace old arts. The style is similar enough, and there are only a few of them that're out of place.
 

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It is. That's why My initial comparison is NOT about "Which one is better", but "how much work is done in the similar time-frame."
(Also if you are really on it, it's not just "Different art-style bias", ZoroJ's arts are objectively better)

And there's no denying the current partnership is much better, just like I said.
In fact it's a "Live and Learn" situation where Hyao gained so much experience over the years, knows much better how to handle the project, overcoming hardship.
(If what the other said is true, ZoroJ never committed to LD, so his leaving is to be expected)

Thing is, you can not stop people from comparing, especially ZoroJ fans. It just doesn't matter (to anyone else).
Also I don't think they need to replace old arts. The style is similar enough, and there are only a few of them that're out of place.
Its doesnt matter if its better if he is not there to do it =)
 
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Hello, do you perhaps have a gofile or mega link to donwload pls ? I can't open when its pixeldrain
I did have Mega but after using so many uses, It asked for a payment. I had to switch to something that was free. I could try gofile next time <3


Me, an empath: (sensing Android link is redirecting to Mac version)...
... seriously give him time, he´s doing it for free...
Sorry about that I fixed it, let me know if it stills going to mac.
 
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It is (IMO). But there are a lot more work done on the CG.
In fact I'm pretty sure ZoroJ Inspired StanG, and many other artists.
So it's really a shame that ZoroJ does not wish to commit on this amazing project.
I honestly didn't expect ZoroJ & Hyao had such mercenary working relationship.
In this case I'd actually say Hyao is in the wrong due to a couple of facts, some of the characters in LD actually belong to ZoroJ as they were created prior to LD; Korg/Booner/Bernard (Only know because I have previous art) so I believe they were/are genuine friends because it's be pretty poor form if his using them now without permission
 
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In this case I'd actually say Hyao is in the wrong due to a couple of facts, some of the characters in LD actually belong to ZoroJ as they were created prior to LD; Korg/Booner/Bernard (Only know because I have previous art) so I believe they were/are genuine friends because it's be pretty poor form if his using them now without permission
ogram the hot bearded orc cheiftain is also zoroj's oc

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In this case I'd actually say Hyao is in the wrong due to a couple of facts, some of the characters in LD actually belong to ZoroJ as they were created prior to LD; Korg/Booner/Bernard (Only know because I have previous art) so I believe they were/are genuine friends because it's be pretty poor form if his using them now without permission
Sorry but what he is in wrong here? From what I understan ZoroJ left on his own accord and decided not explain reasoning behind it, so either originaly he was invested in the game in the begining so he was thrilled to have his character to be in the game and overtime either understood that he cant handle the pressure of being artist for the game since he cant draw what he specificaly prefer or simply lost interest, there is nothing wrong to have someone character to be part in the game as long as they agree that the only thing they provide is the visual but the lore of that character and personality can be different
 
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Sorry but what he is in wrong here? From what I understan ZoroJ left on his own accord and decided not explain reasoning behind it, so either originaly he was invested in the game in the begining so he was thrilled to have his character to be in the game and overtime either understood that he cant handle the pressure of being artist for the game since he cant draw what he specificaly prefer or simply lost interest, there is nothing wrong to have someone character to be part in the game as long as they agree that the only thing they provide is the visual but the lore of that character and personality can be different
This is another reason They should Not replace old arts.
No matter how much or how little ZoroJ was invested in the game, He is still part of Lustful Desires, in fact he helped established the Identity of the game.
You don't just replace a game for what it is.

That's why Hyao was very careful of using new artist, not only to avoid the old mistake of "mercenary commission", but to make sure the game is still the same: New artists need to be invested in the project, meanwhile respect the original source.

So has the dev completely shifted over to exclusive dad bod++ content in this game?
What are you on about? This game is always about Muscular / Chubby body type. This is a Bara game.
 
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aseknospam

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This is another reason They should Not replace old arts.
No matter how much or how little ZoroJ was invested in the game, He is still part of Lustful Desires, in fact he helped established the Identity of the game.
You don't just replace a game for what it is.

That's why Hyao was very careful of using new artist, not only to avoid the old mistake of "mercenary commission", but to make sure the game is still the same: New artists need to be invested in the project, meanwhile respect the original source.


What are you on about? This game is always about Muscular / Chubby body type. This is a Bara game.
Oh Im not saying that he should change it, its already to late for that, thankfully StanG is the one that actualy editing ZoroJ sprites and preserving original his original style, examples are Maskless Tank, Orc wrestling sprites, nude Korg, Everett new emotes and etc., instead of complitely making new one that might have big difference from original.
The complete overhaul of old stuff are helps for a new artist to have less comparison with old ones since new coming pople will see only new stuff and wouldnt know about old one and wouldnt be camparing and overtime it would die down.
Something that heppened for ExAc where people initialy were complaining about Ger being new artist but overtime moved on, and it was the best choice for VN since it become alot better and production quality rose up since artist were incredibly invested in the game. So I hope that not sprite replacement but game itself will get alot more quality content and visuals to acompany it since the team would be more invested in the project and not just Hyao and Virile. But from the last few update I already see rise in the quality, like Virile content with Maul and Barrel, like Brimscorch Black Wolf content, upcoming Croc village with new NPC that actualy look realy good since Naram actualy drew them in his own style instead of trying to mimic ZoroJ style like it was with Furry island part, so it deffinitely coming together for better
 

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Oh Im not saying that he should change it, its already to late for that, thankfully StanG is the one that actualy editing ZoroJ sprites and preserving original his original style, examples are Maskless Tank, Orc wrestling sprites, nude Korg, Everett new emotes and etc., instead of complitely making new one that might have big difference from original.
The complete overhaul of old stuff are helps for a new artist to have less comparison with old ones since new coming pople will see only new stuff and wouldnt know about old one and wouldnt be camparing and overtime it would die down.
Something that heppened for ExAc where people initialy were complaining about Ger being new artist but overtime moved on, and it was the best choice for VN since it become alot better and production quality rose up since artist were incredibly invested in the game. So I hope that not sprite replacement but game itself will get alot more quality content and visuals to acompany it since the team would be more invested in the project and not just Hyao and Virile. But from the last few update I already see rise in the quality, like Virile content with Maul and Barrel, like Brimscorch Black Wolf content, upcoming Croc village with new NPC that actualy look realy good since Naram actualy drew them in his own style instead of trying to mimic ZoroJ style like it was with Furry island part, so it deffinitely coming together for better
You can not stop people from comparing, nor stop them dis-engage because of it.
But when I said "It doesn't matter", it means "It doesn't matter": no need to worry about them, no need to make any decision based on them, they are not your concern anymore.

Quantity does Not Equal Quality.
You can't simply say "Oh they are producing contents quicker so it's better", "Oh there are more artist drawing so it's better." That's not why LD is getting better. What LD achieved at this stage is not as simple as that.
They live and learn and making good choices along the way, from multiple-front. Like working as a team that everyone is committed, like letting Narram draw what he's good at, like letting StanG inspire the team in his own way, like only using people who respect the source / the origin, like not doing commission based arts, like using different writer but not just "Guest writer who only want to self-insert", etc.
To be fair, there are still quite some fumbles, but it seems they are learning from it.

It's not because "it's too late" that they shouldn't change the arts. It's never too late to make correction, IF there's correction needed. ZoroJ's arts are not "mistakes" that needs "Correction".

Not sure what's the production value of old ExAc under CM, But Pretty sure they didn't willingly change the artist because "it's for the better". That's a different situation from LD.
 
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